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On May 19 2019 23:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like thread actions and votes man, that's all we get. And on D1 it's just thread actions. And I'm saying iGrok's thread actions make him mafia. Is it strong? I think it's stronger than trying to angleshoot rayn or metaread me. I think it's stronger than any perceived lack of contribution from rayn when rayn has half the town baying for his head on D1.
I think you exaggerate how much danger rayn is in. We're in a 72-hour day cycle. Some votes on rayn ~12 hours in =/= half the town wanting him cut, drawn and quartered.
If he is town, he has loads and loads of time to prove it. I don't see the point of trying to draw attention away from rayn when half the players haven't even posted yet.
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On May 19 2019 23:24 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 23:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like thread actions and votes man, that's all we get. And on D1 it's just thread actions. And I'm saying iGrok's thread actions make him mafia. Is it strong? I think it's stronger than trying to angleshoot rayn or metaread me. I think it's stronger than any perceived lack of contribution from rayn when rayn has half the town baying for his head on D1. I think you exaggerate how much danger rayn is in. We're in a 72-hour day cycle. Some votes on rayn ~12 hours in =/= half the town wanting him cut, drawn and quartered. If he is town, he has loads and loads of time to prove it. I don't see the point of trying to draw attention away from rayn when half the players haven't even posted yet.
It's less about trying to draw attention away from him - if you'll note I said we can absolutely pull him back into the pool in 24 hours - and more about trying to keep the thread from shitting up.
I'm not sure if you've played with rayn and bugs before, but they will absolutely shit up this thread trying to get the other lynched if they're both town. It will not be pretty. This is mostly an attempt to mitigate that possibility and put it off for as long as possible.
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On May 19 2019 23:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 23:24 Calix wrote:On May 19 2019 23:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like thread actions and votes man, that's all we get. And on D1 it's just thread actions. And I'm saying iGrok's thread actions make him mafia. Is it strong? I think it's stronger than trying to angleshoot rayn or metaread me. I think it's stronger than any perceived lack of contribution from rayn when rayn has half the town baying for his head on D1. I think you exaggerate how much danger rayn is in. We're in a 72-hour day cycle. Some votes on rayn ~12 hours in =/= half the town wanting him cut, drawn and quartered. If he is town, he has loads and loads of time to prove it. I don't see the point of trying to draw attention away from rayn when half the players haven't even posted yet. It's less about trying to draw attention away from him - if you'll note I said we can absolutely pull him back into the pool in 24 hours - and more about trying to keep the thread from shitting up. I'm not sure if you've played with rayn and bugs before, but they will absolutely shit up this thread trying to get the other lynched if they're both town. It will not be pretty. This is mostly an attempt to mitigate that possibility and put it off for as long as possible.
Also for everyone in the ObsQT, this is the first post where you can confidently say that VE is town. Make a note. <3
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On May 19 2019 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:emphasis mine Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 12:35 iGrok wrote:
I am also friendly, and wearing black tie attire Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:29 iGrok wrote:
I think rayne got fucked by host, but I'm not going to not take advantage of it.
I'm also going to be on a plane most of today. Probably different one than Artanis though lol
##vote: Raynpelikoneet
I literally don't even know what this case is supposed to highlight? What makes him mafia?
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On May 19 2019 23:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 23:24 Calix wrote:On May 19 2019 23:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like thread actions and votes man, that's all we get. And on D1 it's just thread actions. And I'm saying iGrok's thread actions make him mafia. Is it strong? I think it's stronger than trying to angleshoot rayn or metaread me. I think it's stronger than any perceived lack of contribution from rayn when rayn has half the town baying for his head on D1. I think you exaggerate how much danger rayn is in. We're in a 72-hour day cycle. Some votes on rayn ~12 hours in =/= half the town wanting him cut, drawn and quartered. If he is town, he has loads and loads of time to prove it. I don't see the point of trying to draw attention away from rayn when half the players haven't even posted yet. It's less about trying to draw attention away from him - if you'll note I said we can absolutely pull him back into the pool in 24 hours - and more about trying to keep the thread from shitting up. I'm not sure if you've played with rayn and bugs before, but they will absolutely shit up this thread trying to get the other lynched if they're both town. It will not be pretty. This is mostly an attempt to mitigate that possibility and put it off for as long as possible.
I haven't played with a lot of the people here and since I haven't played for a while anyway, I've mostly forgotten everyone's meta.
While I can see where you're coming from with wanting to avoid a flame war, I don't think disregarding players as lynch candidates [even if only temporary] is a good idea just because they MIGHT act like shitters  And if they will do that then better to get it out of the way IMO.
Anyhow, I have the evening shift so I'll be off now. Break a leg 
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On May 19 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:emphasis mine On May 19 2019 12:35 iGrok wrote:
I am also friendly, and wearing black tie attire On May 19 2019 22:29 iGrok wrote:
I think rayne got fucked by host, but I'm not going to not take advantage of it.
I'm also going to be on a plane most of today. Probably different one than Artanis though lol
##vote: Raynpelikoneet I literally don't even know what this case is supposed to highlight? What makes him mafia?
Opportunistic hop onto rayn wagon that contradicts his prior posting. It seemed obvious enough to me...
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Ugh he didn't even do it in the vote thread which simultaneously looks better AND worse.
Whatever.
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On May 19 2019 23:47 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:emphasis mine On May 19 2019 12:35 iGrok wrote:
I am also friendly, and wearing black tie attire On May 19 2019 22:29 iGrok wrote:
I think rayne got fucked by host, but I'm not going to not take advantage of it.
I'm also going to be on a plane most of today. Probably different one than Artanis though lol
##vote: Raynpelikoneet I literally don't even know what this case is supposed to highlight? What makes him mafia? Opportunistic hop onto rayn wagon that contradicts his prior posting. It seemed obvious enough to me...
How is it contradictory?
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On May 19 2019 23:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 23:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 19 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:emphasis mine On May 19 2019 12:35 iGrok wrote:
I am also friendly, and wearing black tie attire On May 19 2019 22:29 iGrok wrote:
I think rayne got fucked by host, but I'm not going to not take advantage of it.
I'm also going to be on a plane most of today. Probably different one than Artanis though lol
##vote: Raynpelikoneet I literally don't even know what this case is supposed to highlight? What makes him mafia? Opportunistic hop onto rayn wagon that contradicts his prior posting. It seemed obvious enough to me... How is it contradictory?
As I said in my post DIRECTLY ABOVE that one HF, the first post heavily implies that he thinks rayn is town, that the town vanilla did NOT bother him. Clearly.
But then in the second one he says he thinks rayn got host-fucked.
It's a clear contradiction, are you really doing this?
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On May 19 2019 23:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 23:56 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 23:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 19 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:emphasis mine On May 19 2019 12:35 iGrok wrote:
I am also friendly, and wearing black tie attire On May 19 2019 22:29 iGrok wrote:
I think rayne got fucked by host, but I'm not going to not take advantage of it.
I'm also going to be on a plane most of today. Probably different one than Artanis though lol
##vote: Raynpelikoneet I literally don't even know what this case is supposed to highlight? What makes him mafia? Opportunistic hop onto rayn wagon that contradicts his prior posting. It seemed obvious enough to me... How is it contradictory? As I said in my post DIRECTLY ABOVE that one HF, the first post heavily implies that he thinks rayn is town, that the town vanilla did NOT bother him. Clearly. But then in the second one he says he thinks rayn got host-fucked. It's a clear contradiction, are you really doing this?
I don't think it's a clear contradiction in the slightest if you read any kind of context or tone into the post?
On May 19 2019 12:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you my friend VE?
On May 19 2019 12:26 VisceraEyes wrote:I am your friend. We will rule together. I, too, am vanilla town.
On May 19 2019 12:35 iGrok wrote:
I am also friendly, and wearing black tie attire
He doesn't say he's friends with rayn, nor that he town reads rayn in any capacity (and even if he did, he doesn't say anywhere that it would be for his first post at all). It's simply a joke-y entrance following suit with what you've posted.
I don't think it's contradictory to not even think about Rayn's post being a slip into having someone call it out into voting that person, since that's what bugs, myself, jock and calix kind of did (but really it's not for the first post at all).
Don't really know why I'm writing all these words defending iGrok tbh, maybe I just don't like logical inconsistency. You can call him mafia for hopping on the bandwagon for BAD reasons (just SOLELY doing it for the VT post is bad at this stage when people are voting rayn for other reasons).
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May actually even vote him with you.
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On May 20 2019 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
May actually even vote him with you.
That WAS an awful lot of words to end up maybe voting him with me.
:/
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At least your self awareness of it looks good.
What do you think of Artanis so far?
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Like, besides that he's really attractive.
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On May 19 2019 23:32 Calix wrote:While I can see where you're coming from with wanting to avoid a flame war, I don't think disregarding players as lynch candidates [even if only temporary] is a good idea just because they MIGHT act like shitters And if they will do that then better to get it out of the way IMO.
This really just makes it sound like you want to lynch townies. I really don't like the feels.
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sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix
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I am not sure i will bother to play a game with this amount of retarded people. Yes, it's fucking retarded when you are clearly being cased regardless of whatever Holyflare says afterwards and people won't accept your completely reasonable and easily truth-checkable explanation.
I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis.
Bugs can go to Acrofales pile if he is town and sadly i am not even sure he is not. Acrofales pile is a pile where people who i thought very high of earlier but turns out they are not good town players after all go.Everything he posts is just so fucking wrong and he is even trying to coach me or some shit. I could't care less what the dude writes, because it's jsut straight out BS out of his keyboard, seems like the pattern from last game continues.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 11 2019 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
likewise, 13/10 would ignore both rayn and HF again rayn voted: D1 - mafia bugs voted: D1 - town D2 - town D3 - town D4 - town i laughed at that comment for liek 10 minutes. for real.
gonna vote for mafia again.
##vote Calix
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Maybe i will respond to Holyflare too.
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Or maybe not. I am not sure if i believe this:
On May 19 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
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First points on rayn maybe mean something but unlikely.
That didn't seem like being the case before VE and Artanis defended me.
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On May 20 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis.
On May 19 2019 22:04 Jockmcplop wrote:
Maybe do something that makes me think you aren't mafia (calling everyone who voted for you shameless/should know better/new and clueless doesn't count).
Do what else? that was the only fucking thing in the thread so far. And yes you are all either retarded or mafia.
On May 19 2019 22:29 iGrok wrote:
I think rayne got fucked by host, but I'm not going to not take advantage of it.
##vote: Raynpelikoneet
retarded or mafia
On May 19 2019 22:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
(1) Since there's a chance you are town and just not able to see clearly, I want you and everyone else here to know that at least my reason for voting you has very little to do with the VT post. It was a factor in me noticing you but not my reason for voting you. So please, if you're town, you can stop wasting time thinking this is the whole crux of the reason I am calling you scum because it is not leading us anywhere closer to solving the game. (2) I don't want to speak for HF but based on what he's said in-thread I don't think it's why he thinks you're scum either.
(3)Your best bet is to listen to the person you called a noob and actually provide some real reads. Just so we're clear, calling people dumb for calling you scum and calling others smart for not calling you scum is not an indication to me that you have any real reads, regardless of how many words you type to reach those conclusions.
(1) yeah except that you voted for me based on that discussion and if that's not the reason then you havent even offered a reason why you are voting for me
(2) that's why Holyflare was saying at the time but sure you know know better he was saying something he didn't actually say
(3) no, he is dumb and there is no reason for me to listen to him. Should i listen to him when everything he has said is that i am mafia and rest of it is the same BS you are feeding here? Fucking Calix thinks this post is townie lol, it's 100 times worse than this post is. I have provided real reads, you like them or not. If you don't then don't coach me and instead give a reason why i am mafia but don't tell me i haven't given reads because that's just untrue.
I won't even go to Calix or HF. Calix is scum and as for HF i don't care because it would require too much effort.
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