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On February 08 2018 09:15 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 03:47 Damdred wrote:
Well he wasnt doing the thing that makes him an easy townread when i was in thread anyway. After reading his later content he did a couple of the things so hes probably town. I cannot decipher whom this is related to? I think the conversion (indirectly) applies to rsoultin question to prplhz about mderg: Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 03:40 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 03:39 prplhz wrote:
Lets lynch like Trfel or... Rels? I don't want to lynch Truffle. You and Rels are mostly on the same level for me. So...meh. Why isn't mderg scum, prp? If so.. this is REALLY bad post for Damdred. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26910859post in question
Its in regards to ritoky because rit and I have soul reads usually.
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On February 08 2018 09:19 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:52 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg
The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.
Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm On February 08 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
Heres the problem hf/df i do not thinl at this time tina is getting lynched unless hf switches and i hammer.
But we do need to consolidate at this time. For thw record tinas postings havent been bad since i got back What were you doing on Tina? Come on Damdred...... Mderg you attack and never get a satisfied answer from. rsoultin you attack and townread after talking to her. Who do you vote? rsoultin Come the fuck on bro. Koshi your answers yoi just asked are literally already in my filter. Way to cherry pick though. I grill mderg and he literally comits suicide by voting off of tina and gives himself the only shot of being lynched. I explained to tina amd df I believe in my filter I did not believe mderg would flip scum and I consolidated on tina. And out of Tina and Mderg, mderg looked more townie doing whatever and he is going to die then tina doing the same thing and not being in danger.
oh yeah I saw that. Well.. If I give rsoultin the benefit of the doubt that she does what she did as town I should do the same to you.
You agree with my lynchpool? Who would you add?
I am zoning in on these 3ish people.
But like I said. Mafia doesn't look bad after lynches a lot of the time. They know what will come and are not caught with their pants down and their dicks in their hands. They don't go as far as HF went though. So that guy is so very town. Mocsta as well. Related to his posting as well. Koshi obvious town.
Others? not so much. ritoky can be town. I hope you can give your blessing tomorrow. tfrel is also more likely town based on posts. If he is mafia. Holy fuck we never catch him.
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If you are a cop and you will live a long time because you are lynchbaity like people. Like prplhz for example. It is a good play to just check people like ritoky/mocsta and then come out D4 with your checks.
nks will be Koshi/HF/Mocsta most likely. (rayn should easily be d4 if he is town)
lynches will be rsoultin/conversion/damdred.
So if you check the lynches you might get reds but they will get lynched anyway. And if they are green you need to claim to safe them which is not what you want to do.
Anyway. If you are cop you know what to do and you can do w.e the fuck you want ofc.
My paranoia and sleep deprivation is kicking in.
I am off to bed.
ggwp on the lynch bois.
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On February 08 2018 09:35 Koshi wrote:
If you are a cop and you will live a long time because you are lynchbaity like people. Like prplhz for example. It is a good play to just check people like ritoky/tfrel and then come out D4 with your checks.
nks will be Koshi/HF/Mocsta most likely. (rayn should easily be d4 if he is town)
lynches will be rsoultin/conversion/damdred.
So if you check the lynches you might get reds but they will get lynched anyway. And if they are green you need to claim to safe them which is not what you want to do.
Anyway. If you are cop you know what to do and you can do w.e the fuck you want ofc.
My paranoia and sleep deprivation is kicking in.
I am off to bed.
ggwp on the lynch bois.
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thanks for the clarification lol.. i was thinking. man that is WEIRD.
im happy to burn a check on trfel actaully.
personally I think town, but i can accept people getting paranoia that he is this mastermind that we will never catch.
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On February 08 2018 09:01 Koshi wrote:
darthfoley betrayed me as well.
It has been well over a year a townread him correctly and fast when we are both town. But the love is not mutual. He calls me mafia sometimes and doesn't sheep me.
No love.
I've had you as town for a while bud. If I turn out to be correct this game, I will believe that you have a meta read on me in the future 
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On February 08 2018 09:57 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 09:01 Koshi wrote:
darthfoley betrayed me as well.
It has been well over a year a townread him correctly and fast when we are both town. But the love is not mutual. He calls me mafia sometimes and doesn't sheep me.
No love. I've had you as town for a while bud. If I turn out to be correct this game, I will believe that you have a meta read on me in the future I vibed you town from first post. Do i get to have a meta read on you too <3
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BTW. thinking about it I bet my hat that Ritoky is town because of the mderg lynch.
The heuristic im using isnt related to his filter (which i havent dived). Rather, inmy boredom last game, i was reading recent TL games scum qt. I came across a recent game with Ritoky + Tubesock as scum.
It struck out to me because whilst I couldnt be bothered to read the game to see how Ritoky was playing, he was very motivational and forward planning in the scum qt. In short, he is fully aware of the game happenings and trys to stop his team members peacing out. The heuristic being that this is a personality thing, and something that is hard (naer on impossible) to switch off even if you are "disconnected" from the game.
In short, a scum!ritoky would not have let mderg be so disconnected this game - which led him to being caught in the first place.
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On February 08 2018 00:58 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 00:53 mderg wrote:On February 08 2018 00:14 Trfel wrote:
@Conversion, fair enough, I see that.
Personally I'm not a fan of his read progression on rsoultin. Feels like he goes from nothing to serial killer post was exaggerated to I see some of Mocsta's stuff (but the quality/accuracy of the read doesn't make me townread Mocsta) to passive-aggressiveness to not town rsoultin. Feels like following thread sentiment without adding much.
The Mocsta thing really sticks out to me. Did mderg agree with Mocsta's case? It seems like he did, since he was saying that he was seeing it and the biggest reasons he (mderg) is suspicious of rsoultin for are in it. But his own read on Mocsta is that he (Mocsta) is town because of being focused instead of jumping around. Nothing at all to do with Mocsta's suspicions of rsoultin that mderg himself seems to agree with strongly enough to vote.
Does anyone else see that?
@Koshi, I see what you're saying now. I guess I don't expect everyone to solve the game by POE, I know that I don't. Not opposed to the rest of what you're saying though. Thanks for explaining your prplhz/mderg thing earlier, by the way, that really helped. I had missed rsoultin asking for your prplhz read. rsoultin read progression was something like: didn't like the serial killer post to rsoultin feels passive-aggressive, so doesn't look like town rsoultin. I guess that's pretty close to thread sentiment but I've never claimed that I didn't sheep. My townread on Mocsta is largely based on his rsoultin case. I think that says enough. The last sentence, I don't see that at all in your filter. You've said that your townread on Mocsta is due to staying focused and not jumping around like he did last game as mafia. Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch. To me this doesn't say anything about what you think about his case/read on rsoultin itself, it talks about the way he's pushing (focused, with direction vs opportunistic, pushing everyone). Still listening if I am missing something though. Heading out for class, voting mderg for now. The above seems very inconsistent. Mderg also doesn't seem to care if people are making reads and sharing thoughts that he agrees with; it doesn't affect his read on the person who posted the thoughts at all. Koshi, you are too paranoid about trfel.
If this is a bus. fuck me. not only is it award worthy play, but im happy to lose the game.
THERE WAS NO NEED TO FORCE A VOTE ONTO MDERG AT THIS POINT (if you think rsoultin is town); and the logic is absolutely ON POINT.
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im happy with conversion to be #1 lynch candidate on Day2.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26910638
I find the mderg progression very scummy.
"@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?"
Why this specific afk for a call out?
"shits on the list post"
"baits a mderg vote COUPLED WITH A PRPLHZ VOTE"
This in particular is scummy as whilst he has called for lower activity players. This is his first direct mention of prplhz who had some thread sentiment comments at the time => prplhz is a dangling carrot to move beyond mderg
"reverses read on list post for meta"
Damdred found it similar too, so i wont give this scum points.
"weighs out rsoultin / mderg"
Really bad post. www.teamliquid.net
Doesnt like mderg IN GAME CONTENT, but waives it due to similarity to his last town game.
See an appreciable difference in Rsoultin for INGAME CONTENT, but not enough to unvote.
As a nice cherry, the "different nature showing" is probably desperation to avoid a framer lynch.
Yep, no CONVERSION on this read.
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shitty heuristic, but that clears rsoultin and prplhz for me
This is where im at:
town
ritoky
darthfoley
rsoultin
koshi
holyflare
trfel
prplhz
mafia possibilities
conversion
damdred
raynpelikoneet
unknown (i.e. havent read a single post)
disinformation
LOL. i just realised this 1:1 mindmelds with Koshi. awesome. GG.
between damdred/rayn/disinformation.. im happy for a gut feel on rayn as 3rd option.
to answer your question before darth abotu why i felt uncomfortable about ppl following me on rsoultin for not my reason, it was because of a post from rayn that said everything i said is correct but not mafia indicative, and then was piling on more pressure on rsoultin for what i did not consider a deviation from my points. It made me think i was turning into a patsy.. (this didnt line up with the dichotomy you presented, which is why i said i didnt agre with your conclusion).
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if you’re actually mad hatter who gives a shit about your opinion to lynch me. either way build your case out to scoping a possibility where I flip town and you have to find +2 mafia because your big post will be garbage the moment I do
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Alright I'm done with that.
In pure OMGUS fashion, I will be focusing on casing the people who suddenly thought it opportunistic to turn on me after mderg flip.
The list will be constructed and I will be posting my thoughts here. I will keep to my word and vote myself at the very least, because I think this town needs to wake the fuck up and get me out of the way in order to progress with the game.
The list is as followed-- people who townread me who suddenly want me lynched:
Koshi
Mocsta
Cool. I'm spending the majority of my effort on why both of you are straight trash in calling me mafia over the next few hours, and why you not exploring the idea of me not being mafia is also trash and why you're ruining town's chances of winning after a D1 mafia lynch by being complete garbage that belongs in a landfill.
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note: I am not saying that you two are mafia in these cases, just why your sudden turn in trying to paint me scum is literal GARBAGE. If I didn't stress that point enough.
G A R B A G E
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Why you shouldn't believe Koshi on why I am mafia:
Most likely the most arrogant and tunneled town player I have ever played with. He is obviously a very good player, so he owns it very well. The problem with Koshi is when he's wrong, he will never admit he's wrong. Which is good for town when he has his read right (MS Paint game when he was judge, Mocsta mafia last game, whatever other games this guy has because I can't be fucking bothered to meta filter dive anymore). However, he is bullheaded on a worse level than drunk angry rayn, even when he is so clearly wrong.
Now this long preface was written because I am still incredibly salty that someone who claims he is literal Jesus in this game called Mafia can't get over the fact that I AM NOT MAFIA when he reads me as such. Like last game. He spent every moment he could spare on top of solving the game calling me mafia, including me in a list, and then suddenly turning on me and having me flip town.
+ Show Spoiler [Long quote chain on why Koshi reading…] +On December 13 2017 04:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 08:13 prplhz wrote:On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting. Setup talking is sometimes a good way to scum hunt as town and scum sometimes think differently about it. Scum hunting off of a couple of "Hi"-posts is unlikely to yield results, no? Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting. this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in Bad posts It was a mafia bait post from Arya. Easy to critisize without risking looking bad. On December 13 2017 04:33 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 12:21 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:16 Arya321 wrote:On December 12 2017 12:04 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:00 darthfoley wrote:On December 12 2017 11:35 Conversion wrote:
you won last game I did. It was not as glorious as advertised ya but why would you tell people palmar led "us" to utter defeat last game, when you won? i think he means he led town to utter defeat? Just not worded right I think. from someone who would point out my usage of a nonexistent word (irregardless), I'm going to not give him the benefit of the doubt on wording something poorly. DF knew what he was typing-- a rather poor attempt to joke around and look townie by saying Palmar led "us" to defeat. I also asked DF, not you for your interpretation why aren't you pressing anyone even with some new entrances/some content to buzz around for someone who seems so eager about scumhunting? Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 12:33 Conversion wrote:
I'm saying it's a bad statement to make to try and look unnecessarily townie. if that makes him scum, idk yet.
ya I'm pretty tired too and no one else seems to be entertaining me US-wise so might get some zzz Many things are happening in the thread. Conversion is focusing on 1 thing and I don't like that thing. On December 13 2017 05:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2017 01:26 Conversion wrote:
also agree with VE there. it's not surprising his mind changed after I discussed it with him. seems kind of a forced read IMO. I don't like you at all. On December 13 2017 05:12 Koshi wrote:
1) Forumite - Forgot his posts. Saw some things. Need to filter.
2) Grackaroni - Is refusing to let us read him.
3) DarthFoley - Town because his posts read genuine.
4) Holyflare - Meh
5) Conversion - Mafia lean
6) Oatsmaster - Probably town I think. Mainly due to Conversion and VE talking about him.
7) VisceraEyes - Mafia lean
8) Chezinu - Not a prior atm. If you are a vig feel free.
10) prphlz - Town
11) Eversince - afk
12) Ayra321 - Town
13) Kmatt - Townish
14) Palmar - Is fine. On December 13 2017 05:17 Koshi wrote:
So we are here:
Town:
DarthFoley
Oatsmaster
prphlz
Ayra321
Kmatt
Palmar
Don't lynch them today:
Forumite
Holyflare
Shoot them but don't lynch them D1:
Chezinu
Grack
Lynch:
VE
Conversion On December 13 2017 05:22 Koshi wrote:
##Vote Conversion
I am voting Conversion over VE because VE is drawing more attention to himself with his "odd" play. I am not yet sure if the "odd" play from VE is him being really bad at blending in as mafia pushing ideas or that he is just playing worse than his previous game.
Conversion is making posts but didn't even once draw attention to him or made a post that would cause a wave making it easier for him to solve the game. If he is town, he disappointed me the most so far. So I am going to assume he is mafia struggling to show some genuine thoughts combined with thread progression. On December 13 2017 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Palmar I need you to type me a big post talking about Conversion. If you do so this game will become easier for us to solve. After that feel free to do one liners and random stuff. But I need to read something smart from you on Conversion. But more importantly, I need to read a lot of words from you talking about Conversion. On December 13 2017 05:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2017 00:59 Palmar wrote:
I think Conversion is town. I also think Arya is town. I have a feeling prplhz is town.
I think forumite is mafia for asking a stupid question. I think VE may be mafia because he spent way too much time talking himself into voting me. If Conversion is mafia. If VE is town and if forumite is town this is a bad post. Because Conversion is being protected here with no basis except by add 2 more townreads. Conversion early game was not town. The other 2 I can see. forumite is mafia lynch bait of choice if town. And VE is being odd and out there. No doubt and an easy catch.
That being said. I still potentially like you Palmar. Your latest posts were just really underwhelming. You need to give the thread some candy. On December 13 2017 05:31 Koshi wrote:
Conversion is our best bet atm. On December 13 2017 06:52 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2017 00:52 prplhz wrote:
I literally don't have a read.
Maybe Conversion is town for doing a lot of meta analysis that kind of led nowhere. Show nested quote +On December 13 2017 00:59 Palmar wrote:
I think Conversion is town. I also think Arya is town. I have a feeling prplhz is town.
I think forumite is mafia for asking a stupid question. I think VE may be mafia because he spent way too much time talking himself into voting me. This also looks bad for Palmar. I really need to know why Conversion is town. Looks like mafia!Palmar adopted a read from the thread because it is his scumbuddy. But then again. I am quite convinced conversion is mafia. If he isn't. I am being very wrong. On December 13 2017 07:05 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2017 05:17 Koshi wrote:
So we are here:
Town:
DarthFoley
Oatsmaster
prphlz
Ayra321
Kmatt
Palmar
Don't lynch them today:
Forumite
Holyflare
Shoot them but don't lynch them D1:
Chezinu
Grack
Lynch:
VE
Conversion I think this is my new list. Town is on top. It isn't perfectly in order but close enough. Especially second to sixth place is pretty random. DarthFoley Oatsmaster prphlz VE Ayra321 Kmatt Grack Forumite Holyflare Eversince Chezinu Palmar Conversion On December 13 2017 09:16 Koshi wrote:
I am just going to sit here and hope somebody enters this game with a fresh view. Who is able to peak my interest.
Atm too many lost townies. I hope they follow my lead and lynch conversion.
But second on list Palmar isnt that bad either. I have such high hopes for him. But he didnt deliver once more On December 13 2017 09:20 Koshi wrote:
PS2: I found conversion first. No diggity, no doubt On December 13 2017 09:27 Koshi wrote:
woe hf is so sure conversion is mafia he is trying to steal the kred On December 13 2017 19:01 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2017 09:48 Arya321 wrote:
Just got home from my final I saw that HF is stealing some credit about pushing Conversion even though Koshi and DF were doing it first. DF and Koshi are town I think from the interactions they had while I was gone. Also HF think's I am lightningstrike for whatever reason even though I am not him or her nor do I know him or her >.>
@Koshi what you current reads on Palmar and HF
@HF What you think of KMatt and his attempted push on Chezinu? The problem with veteran players is that they can play good as either alignment. I think Conversion is still the best bet for town. Both palmar and hf didnt do anything to change that.
Now, you don't have to look through that spoiler tag. Because it is the same garbage Koshi is spouting this game. That I am mafia, because it fits his agenda and his ideal view of the game. But that is garbage solely because of this post right here from Simple Mafia:
On December 19 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote:
Conversion I am not going to lie.
But either you play EXTREMELY scummy as town. Or you are just mafia.
How can you PoE Kmatt and then he is suddenly town? Again both times without any justification. (to progress the thread)
And there are many many instances in your filter like that.
So this literal mafia Jesus cannot get over his fact that he will never be able to cleanly town read me, because I never cleanly play as town. In his mafia Jesus head. So I must be mafia. Doesn't matter if literally two games ago he was 9100% sure that I was mafia and I flipped town. Doesn't matter if towards that game he townread me for trying, then randomly flipped on me because I was playing terribly in his mafia Jesus eyes.
And what does he do here? Exactly what he did at the tail end of Simple Mafia. Calls me town because of one thing, finds one garbage, irrelevant detail, calls me Mafia, and will push me until I die.
You're garbage at reading me Koshi. That's all. Man that was fun!
GARBAGE AT READING ME. I will be having the biggest shit eating grin on my face and I will fucking roast you post game if I get lynched because this will be 0/2 times you read me as mafia when I am town.
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Actually that's the only post I wanted to make. I will do a small dance around my corpse after I get lynched as a spirit and laugh at Koshi all day in OBS chat when you scurry to find another ideal image of the game because I will flip town.
Absolute shitter. Learn to read someone properly before you claim yourself as the second coming of Christ in a forum mafia game.
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Mocsta's filter is just garbage. Calls me SK for half of D1, then thinks I'm town, then thinks I'm mafia again because I waffled a bit. NEWSFLASH I wouldn't have stuck on rsoultin if my buddy mderg was getting lynched.
Also neither of you are answering what the fuck you're going to do when I flip town. So answer that for town's sake, you big fat piles of garbage.
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what happened to being this nitpicky fellow?
The answer of you being town is already evident in our lynch pool which exceeds 2 lolololol.
As for the dirty dirty WIFOM you want to throw.. well.
You're pinned by how you didnt want to vote mderg.
Whether mafia or SK, i dont really care.
I intentionally wrote with an apostrophe so you didnt have to get nitpicky fretted.
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hey conv can you answer a few questions for me, if you did already and you just wanna quote yourself that is chill too.
why did you vote rsoul over mderg? do you think you were wrong now or do you think you're still right? if some1 bussed on the wagon who is your top candidate?
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also if you're a normal cop. don't listen to koshi, listen to me and check rsoul. split vote day 1, check da other person. like i said, if it is red mvm and 2 mafia in 2 days. if it is green you're looking at like 6 confirmed. if you're a parity cop, do w/e the fuk u want.
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