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If Conversion is mafia. rsoultin and darthfoley make really good observations here that I don't think they would make if the mafia team is mderg/conversation/one-of-them.
I would really like to lynch Conversation and then move onto rayn/damdred.
On February 08 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:12 darthfoley wrote:On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie. Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people. Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then. I really think you're town. Don't let me down plz If you are saying this point I brought up is bringing your opinion of me down, I am just saying I feel as if this could be a possibility. Who knows, though.
On February 08 2018 04:41 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 04:34 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:I am back. Meeting ran over, typical. On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie. Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people. Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then. Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can. Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do. I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing. I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip. Hmm. My diffident nature is showing as deadline is creeping upon me.. On one hand I really dislike mderg's filter, but I am not seeing too much of a difference between here and Newbie. I have not played Newbie, though, so maybe I would have seen it differently had I been in it. On the other hand, I really disliked the majority of your Day1, and I am not sure if the recovery was enough to sway my decision... Ugh. -squints at- That just sounds like you should be voting me. I don't see what the waffle is about. You can look into my meta (past all the unfun, toxic, ragey bullshit) and you will see that by nature I am waffley. But you are right, I will remain steadfast in voting you and just have more confidence in my conclusion.
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On February 08 2018 08:22 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:15 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others? lets see if i can explain. with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did. with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well". bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion. does that make sense to you? On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point: Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes. wait did i say better? more likely to be scum. ah ok. Then we are seeing the same thing. I am tired so it is probably me.
meh tired too. prolly will go to bed soon.
happy we are seeing the same things though
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On February 08 2018 08:14 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:04 Koshi wrote:
The lynch pool for tomorrow is always rayn/damdred/conversion.
The vigi should shoot into rayn/damdred
The cop shoot investigate into rayn/damdred/rsoultin/conversion (btw if you are cop there is a miller, don't claim d2 or I murder you)
The doc should save me. But he wont. Cuz that is how life goes. thats interesting actually. framer probably makes it unlikely that there is a godfather. but to compensate, a miller could make a lot of sense. If so, well played Koshi. Last time I was self-aware miller, I claimed in first post. But you played it well. I have no doubt if you came up red that you are town. im hesitant for vig to fire tonight on possibility of SK.Could potentially lose 3 townies in 1 night.. I think risk is too high. Its highly likely mafia still have an RB.. which is more valuable than framer because of SK and is probably rsoultin lololololol.. explains the immediate early day1 draw to SK insertion.
The setup is almost surely framer/RB/goon vs. cop/vigi, medic or something. SK in a normal 13 man mini is highly unlikely and idk why people keep bringing it up. I've already said rsoultin is likely RB
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On February 08 2018 08:24 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 07:48 Holyflare wrote:
Don't get me wrong cyborg conversion, you're playing a great game but I just miss the old conversion you know?  I am town, Koshi. Get off your tunnel. You ate shit last game, you will eat shit again.
We will see.
My lynchpool really is Conversion/Damdred/rayn.
I am just talking about you because disformation brought you up.
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On February 08 2018 08:26 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:14 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2018 08:04 Koshi wrote:
The lynch pool for tomorrow is always rayn/damdred/conversion.
The vigi should shoot into rayn/damdred
The cop shoot investigate into rayn/damdred/rsoultin/conversion (btw if you are cop there is a miller, don't claim d2 or I murder you)
The doc should save me. But he wont. Cuz that is how life goes. thats interesting actually. framer probably makes it unlikely that there is a godfather. but to compensate, a miller could make a lot of sense. If so, well played Koshi. Last time I was self-aware miller, I claimed in first post. But you played it well. I have no doubt if you came up red that you are town. im hesitant for vig to fire tonight on possibility of SK.Could potentially lose 3 townies in 1 night.. I think risk is too high. Its highly likely mafia still have an RB.. which is more valuable than framer because of SK and is probably rsoultin lololololol.. explains the immediate early day1 draw to SK insertion. The setup is almost surely framer/RB/goon vs. cop/vigi, medic or something. SK in a normal 13 man mini is highly unlikely and idk why people keep bringing it up. I've already said rsoultin is likely RB
She isn't likely that at all.
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any specific reason on rayn? think i need to read his filter tomorrow.
for damdy i guess it is his vote / waiting out eod?
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On February 08 2018 08:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:26 darthfoley wrote:On February 08 2018 08:14 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2018 08:04 Koshi wrote:
The lynch pool for tomorrow is always rayn/damdred/conversion.
The vigi should shoot into rayn/damdred
The cop shoot investigate into rayn/damdred/rsoultin/conversion (btw if you are cop there is a miller, don't claim d2 or I murder you)
The doc should save me. But he wont. Cuz that is how life goes. thats interesting actually. framer probably makes it unlikely that there is a godfather. but to compensate, a miller could make a lot of sense. If so, well played Koshi. Last time I was self-aware miller, I claimed in first post. But you played it well. I have no doubt if you came up red that you are town. im hesitant for vig to fire tonight on possibility of SK.Could potentially lose 3 townies in 1 night.. I think risk is too high. Its highly likely mafia still have an RB.. which is more valuable than framer because of SK and is probably rsoultin lololololol.. explains the immediate early day1 draw to SK insertion. The setup is almost surely framer/RB/goon vs. cop/vigi, medic or something. SK in a normal 13 man mini is highly unlikely and idk why people keep bringing it up. I've already said rsoultin is likely RB She isn't likely that at all.
Your conversion post is good. His language has seemed a bit robotic now that HF mentions it and I take the time to look. It's sad because he was my top tier Town. Thought he was making some good points. Playing much different than usual conversion
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That sounded rude but I just meant he was playing D1 way more confidently than I remember conversion playing D1
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On February 08 2018 08:29 disformation wrote:
any specific reason on rayn? think i need to read his filter tomorrow.
for damdy i guess it is his vote / waiting out eod?
rayn simply doesn't have anything going for him that makes him look town. his effort the first 24 hours were decent but like I said he can do it to steer town to the wrong direction.
And that quote I posted. In which he says both mderg and prplhz are not mafia.
I am EXTREMELY annoyed that prplhz is named there. It feels so bad. So out of place.
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On February 08 2018 08:20 disformation wrote:
hum? "but his points on rsoultin resonate very well with me".
still read it as "i really like his points on rsoultin" (implying he likes conversion and dislikes rsoultin)
so dont think (2) is true? I wrote poorly, apologies, as im jumping to a prediction/conclusion.
I view mderg as struggling to speak anything meaningful.
He has this stupid vague list post, yet, can agree about rsoultin.. how specific and peculiar?
my jumping conclusion (i.e assumption) is because he knows rsoultin is scum, so believes it.
apologies.
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On February 08 2018 08:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:29 disformation wrote:
any specific reason on rayn? think i need to read his filter tomorrow.
for damdy i guess it is his vote / waiting out eod? rayn simply doesn't have anything going for him that makes him look town. his effort the first 24 hours were decent but like I said he can do it to steer town to the wrong direction. And that quote I posted. In which he says both mderg and prplhz are not mafia. I am EXTREMELY annoyed that prplhz is named there. It feels so bad. So out of place.
Yes I noticed that too. Prplhz has been very townie the whole game IMO and idk why people have been so aggressive on him.
He's like lynchbait that isn't actually lynchbait
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At least I can put aside my paranoia on Mocsta for a couple of days
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On February 08 2018 08:32 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:20 disformation wrote:
hum? "but his points on rsoultin resonate very well with me".
still read it as "i really like his points on rsoultin" (implying he likes conversion and dislikes rsoultin)
so dont think (2) is true? I wrote poorly, apologies, as im jumping to a prediction/conclusion. I view mderg as struggling to speak anything meaningful. He has this stupid vague list post, yet, can agree about rsoultin.. how specific and peculiar? my jumping conclusion (i.e assumption) is because he knows rsoultin is scum, so believes it. apologies.
mafia doesn't want to die. They constantly are aware who they need to look bad to lynch.
Maybe at this point he understood he had to vote rsoultin somewhere soon to get the lynch off him.
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And rereading Conversion his filter it isn't that awesome. Thread sentiment just called him town for no reason I think. Tfrel put some pressure on him and he didn't look bad under it. That is true.
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On February 08 2018 08:34 darthfoley wrote:
At least I can put aside my paranoia on Mocsta for a couple of days <3
I will treat this as a compliment.
ok, i will stop shitting the thread with half-formed thoughts. time to read what happened from p35 onwards.
ciao
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My reads evolved and I think rsoultin and prplhz are town. rsoultin just doesn't do this as mafia I think. If she did, it was suicidal and she will die. Somewhere along the line she will die. She is smart enough to not do this and just buy the sweet sweet cred of lynching the mafia RB. Kill the people who scumread her. And try to win by effort.
This rsoultin read is an hero read. I am not sure of it. But I believe it.
prplhz is playing brilliant as mafia. 0 effort. Maximum profit.
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alright I give up. I’m AFK voting myself D2 and moving on.
gg gl town
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On February 08 2018 08:37 Koshi wrote:
And rereading Conversion his filter it isn't that awesome. Thread sentiment just called him town for no reason I think. Tfrel put some pressure on him and he didn't look bad under it. That is true. well, i liked how he shut down trfel without overly shitting on him.
in hindsight, maybe a bad heuristic.
as mafia, you may want to shut down trfel WITHOUT pissing him off.. that way he backs off and digs elsewhere.
You would only want to shit on him, if you setting up to get him voted off.
hmmmmm, i also did like your conversion posts.
OK, i shall re-read him starting at null instead of town. You have successfully influenced me.
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^ old conversion there for you HF. gl
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On February 08 2018 08:32 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:20 disformation wrote:
hum? "but his points on rsoultin resonate very well with me".
still read it as "i really like his points on rsoultin" (implying he likes conversion and dislikes rsoultin)
so dont think (2) is true? I wrote poorly, apologies, as im jumping to a prediction/conclusion. I view mderg as struggling to speak anything meaningful. He has this stupid vague list post, yet, can agree about rsoultin.. how specific and peculiar? my jumping conclusion (i.e assumption) is because he knows rsoultin is scum, so believes it. apologies.
ah. so you are basically agreeing that there is something odd in conversion stuff, but it might be about rsoultin not conversion?
hm. i guess its not impossible. i still think it is more likely to be conversion? as koshi pointed out scum is not entirely unlikely to copy bad town reads on their mates.
might want to sleep about that though getting real tired xD
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