EPT[M][N] Presidential Election Mini Mafia - Page 82
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Though tbh we have plenty of lynches to go if Jean is town. | ||
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Damdred
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On June 30 2016 02:44 Damdred wrote: I don't think that's something scum forgets who shot their partner. Ehhh its kinda weak, but I don't think I want to lynch jealous especially with his attitude/interactions today. I'm inclined to agree. There's very few people I want to lynch at this point which is kinda nice but also mildly concerning. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On June 29 2016 21:13 Jean Valjean wrote: I think mafia is most likely somewhere in: Damdred/Artanis/Chez/Tictock On June 29 2016 22:52 Rels wrote: Day 2 Votecount Jean Valjean (3): Tictock, Artanis[Xp], Damdred Damdred (2): Chezinu (2): Jealous (1): Artanis[Xp] (0): Tictock (0): Not Voting (3): GlowingBear, Chezinu, Superbia As of now, Jean Valjean will get lynched! Day 2 ends Wednesday, Jun 29 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate. Hey, what a coincidence. JVJ's scumlist consists of the people voting him and the potentially easy mislynch. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On June 30 2016 03:48 Tictock wrote: Besides if Jean flips town the last scum would basically have to be either Damdred or I from the way we are pushing this right? I don't think either of you is going to flip scum regardless honestly. Damdred is never scum and you seem very unlikely to be scum as well from how the game's developed. You've gotten more and more into the game as it's progressed whereas scum has been getting trounced. That with the fakeclaim which would've given you a fine excuse to just concede, I'm quite certain you're town. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Outside chance of it being Superbia too but meh. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On June 30 2016 03:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't think either of you is going to flip scum regardless honestly. Damdred is never scum and you seem very unlikely to be scum as well from how the game's developed. You've gotten more and more into the game as it's progressed whereas scum has been getting trounced. That with the fakeclaim which would've given you a fine excuse to just concede, I'm quite certain you're town. What I'm hearing is that this wagon is pure as fuck and everyone should get on it... | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Pure speculation though! | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
On June 30 2016 02:30 Jealous wrote: To remove uncertainty from potentially painful end-game scenarios that have muddled my analytical breakdown of when we CAN or SHOULD lynch Jean, I have a couple of questions: GlowingBear, will you ever use your pardon? If so, in what scenarios and why? If you were in an endgame scenario where you had to choose between Jean and your bodyguard to lynch, who would you lynch? Jean: Under what circumstances would you push a GlowingBear lynch? Never, scum vigilante isn't a role in the game so he's confirmed town. | ||
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Jealous
10077 Posts
On June 30 2016 03:55 Tictock wrote: What I'm hearing is that this wagon is pure as fuck and everyone should get on it... I still think it's too much of a risk to take at this juncture, and would prefer to only do it if it is forced upon us as we progress through the D/N cycles. There are still quite a few cycles left until Jean becomes invincible as scum, which means plenty of other developments can occur that would help shed light on Jean and others in the game. Maybe my balls aren't big enough to join you on this wagon or perhaps I tend to be risk-averse, either way I am sticking to my guns (Damdred) on this one because it is the strongest case I've seen developed on a purely logical scale (as in, ignoring meta). If Damdred flips green, I have some other avenues to pursue but I don't want to reveal those until someone gets NK'd. Maybe scum will eliminate some possibilities and if I post my suspicions now, scum will be less likely to remove them from town's radar. | ||
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Jealous
10077 Posts
On June 30 2016 04:03 Jean Valjean wrote: Never, scum vigilante isn't a role in the game so he's confirmed town. Yea, I made a mistake, ignore that please ^^ I forgot GB was confirmed town when I wrote that because I was mentally trapped in some analytical end-game scenario hell. | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
On June 30 2016 03:47 Damdred wrote: Also besides that fact Jean can't really be allowed to reach lylo or if he's scum he auto wins if hes here at start of day meh. Why can I specifically not be allowed to reach lylo Damdred? Also, why are you trying to take care of that problem now. For someone bitching about how you're one of the best players in the game you're showing a tremendously weak grasp of scumhunting. There is no way I flip mafia, because I have not done anything a mafia would do. I am helpful I lynch mafia I am transparent I explain my reads I help push the game I push buttons on people to make them talk It is actually amazing that I know in this situation that one of Artanis and Damdred must not be mafia (and if I'm right on chez, neither is). Because those two people specifically should know the very situation that has come up, being very experienced. I know I have seen this situation before, multiple times. I lynch mafia and then surely I must have bussed on day 2 because people fear me. I am not this good at playing mafia, no one is. One of the things I would like an input on from other people post-game is how to avoid this specific situation, I thought I did well on day 1, I thought I put myself in a position, yet players who at least claim to be good at this game are literally head up to waist in their asses thinking I surely must be mafia because only mafia would lynch mafia and play like town. That is perfect logic. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
I also went through Chez's filter but didn't find much in it to sway me one way or the other. Bleh. | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
Everyone, and I mean literally everyone, has at absolutely best skimmed every post in the game. It's much more likely people skim and skip parts of the game. I am just honest about it, because you know... I'm transparent and helpful. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On June 30 2016 04:09 Jean Valjean wrote: Why can I specifically not be allowed to reach lylo Damdred? Also, why are you trying to take care of that problem now. For someone bitching about how you're one of the best players in the game you're showing a tremendously weak grasp of scumhunting. There is no way I flip mafia, because I have not done anything a mafia would do. I am helpful I lynch mafia I am transparent I explain my reads I help push the game I push buttons on people to make them talk It is actually amazing that I know in this situation that one of Artanis and Damdred must not be mafia (and if I'm right on chez, neither is). Because those two people specifically should know the very situation that has come up, being very experienced. I know I have seen this situation before, multiple times. I lynch mafia and then surely I must have bussed on day 2 because people fear me. I am not this good at playing mafia, no one is. One of the things I would like an input on from other people post-game is how to avoid this specific situation, I thought I did well on day 1, I thought I put myself in a position, yet players who at least claim to be good at this game are literally head up to waist in their asses thinking I surely must be mafia because only mafia would lynch mafia and play like town. That is perfect logic. The main reason I think you're mafia is because you're playing survivalist and because everyone else bar Chez is extremely Town. Also, mafia does all of those things, are you kidding? Mafia's the party that wants to look good. On June 30 2016 04:05 Jealous wrote: I still think it's too much of a risk to take at this juncture, and would prefer to only do it if it is forced upon us as we progress through the D/N cycles. There are still quite a few cycles left until Jean becomes invincible as scum, which means plenty of other developments can occur that would help shed light on Jean and others in the game. Maybe my balls aren't big enough to join you on this wagon or perhaps I tend to be risk-averse, either way I am sticking to my guns (Damdred) on this one because it is the strongest case I've seen developed on a purely logical scale (as in, ignoring meta). If Damdred flips green, I have some other avenues to pursue but I don't want to reveal those until someone gets NK'd. Maybe scum will eliminate some possibilities and if I post my suspicions now, scum will be less likely to remove them from town's radar. Logic is an awful guide in mafia. Townies are illogical as hell whilst mafia's very concerned with it. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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