EPTGuMiho wins HomeStory Cup 25
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
WombaT
Northern Ireland26623 Posts
| ||
|
luxon
United States117 Posts
| ||
|
Agh
United States1044 Posts
Seems like way too many games T gets 2-3 tanks to defend the natural as well as the 3rd and 4th from one location. (Map stats are heavily skewed in T's favor as well.) Not really sure if there is as bad of an offender for multiple matchups as Amphion, but it does stand out. Could really do with some v2 map updates.. but yeah probably never going to happen. Interesting games though, still can't really buy into any P that isn't Maxpax or Hero. (Creator and Classic still a ways off) | ||
|
Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On June 24 2024 23:47 Agh wrote: Think the mineral lines on Amphion need to be half rocks half minerals, to at least offer a bit more offensive potential. Seems like way too many games T gets 2-3 tanks to defend the natural as well as the 3rd and 4th from one location. (Map stats are heavily skewed in T's favor as well.) Not really sure if there is as bad of an offender for multiple matchups as Amphion, but it does stand out. Could really do with some v2 map updates.. but yeah probably never going to happen. Interesting games though, still can't really buy into any P that isn't Maxpax or Hero. (Creator and Classic still a ways off) Im not sure why blame it on maps when the problem was obvious: ShowTime dominated first with his mass gateway style and Gumiho adapted well, more denfesive and amining to thel ategame. Mass gateway comps are good when the Terran is active on the map. Against a defensive style, Stats/Classic Carrier style may work better. | ||
|
Blitzball04
191 Posts
On June 24 2024 20:19 luxon wrote: game 5 game of the year. sad throw by showtime, maxpax does that style on that map too vs clem and it never works, gateway units are so so bad against mass liberators. i went to sleep thinking showtime had won it all, poor tobi It’s a common throw / losing scenario for these PVT games. Protoss should immediately switch to tempest once they see more libs/ range upgrade. But so many Protoss are so stubborn and double down on the heavy gateway style which hardly ever works. | ||
|
Agh
United States1044 Posts
On June 25 2024 02:13 Argonauta wrote: Im not sure why blame it on maps when the problem was obvious: ShowTime dominated first with his mass gateway style and Gumiho adapted well, more denfesive and amining to thel ategame. Mass gateway comps are good when the Terran is active on the map. Against a defensive style, Stats/Classic Carrier style may work better. ?? I'll just assume an esl issue. I referenced a singular map not maps, and completely independent of the players/results. But for further spoon-feeding: Amphion is the only map that is >60% for both matchups which is insane. You'd probably have to go all the way back to something like Delta Quadrant to find a map where one race was that favored. | ||
|
Kitai
United States880 Posts
| ||
|
WombaT
Northern Ireland26623 Posts
On June 25 2024 04:20 Agh wrote: ?? I'll just assume an esl issue. I referenced a singular map not maps, and completely independent of the players/results. But for further spoon-feeding: Amphion is the only map that is >60% for both matchups which is insane. You'd probably have to go all the way back to something like Delta Quadrant to find a map where one race was that favored. Oof, I must say I can’t recall a map in proper rotation that’s that skewed in 2 matchups to one race’s favour for quite some time. Assuming those numbers are right, which I shall unless someone will stick up some deep dive to challenge it The Terran Master RaceTM will proclaim a map as basically unplayable if it’s skewed 53/47 against them in one matchup, so 60/40 in two against Protoss is pretty wild. That said I mean it felt Showtime had a few options he could have taken in that game to seize the day and didn’t take any of them. Step up his gas income and either build an uber army with Stargate tech, or keep sharking with gate/disruptor but make it more chaotic and cost-effective with some invisible men. On the flipside if he had done that we’d have got a less thrilling game so there is that | ||
|
Telephone
United States147 Posts
| ||
|
Drahkn
196 Posts
| ||
Mizenhauer
United States1921 Posts
On June 26 2024 00:08 Telephone wrote: Wow, GuMiho's first GSL-equivalent win since 2017! Almost seven years to the day he won Code S, as well. It's a great win for a player who has been inconstant since returning from military, but has shown that he has what it takes to be a top tier player time and time again. | ||
|
Glorfindelio
223 Posts
| ||
|
MJG
United Kingdom1451 Posts
On June 26 2024 00:08 Telephone wrote: Wow, GuMiho's first GSL-equivalent win since 2017! GSL equivalent..? Lol... | ||
|
ThunderJunk
United States729 Posts
 | ||
|
MyLovelyLurker
France756 Posts
in before the 'Serral has 5 GSLs' memes (/puts on helmet) | ||
|
FataLe
New Zealand4532 Posts
On June 26 2024 00:08 Telephone wrote: Wow, GuMiho's first GSL-equivalent win since 2017! Gumi's definitely won an ESL weekly since 2017 though right? | ||
|
NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
| ||
|
Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
I applaud studios that are trying to do their own RTS but let's face it, Starcraft is like the Mount Everest of this genre, and series like these really demonstrate that to me. I know he lost but Showtime really showed off his chops, taking a player like Gumiho to the wire is no small feat. | ||
|
ejozl
Denmark3489 Posts
| ||
|
Locutos
Brazil273 Posts
On June 27 2024 12:47 Beelzebub1 wrote: That finals was so damn good, high level Starcraft just scratches an itch like nothing else can. I applaud studios that are trying to do their own RTS but let's face it, Starcraft is like the Mount Everest of this genre, and series like these really demonstrate that to me. I know he lost but Showtime really showed off his chops, taking a player like Gumiho to the wire is no small feat. The sad thing is... it takes time for one to be able to taste the quality behind this game in its top level. But that also just makes it the more exciting. No wonder that, despite ppl keep saying that the enviroment of the game looks dead, the core of the public is still present. The game lives on | ||
| ||
