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On June 28 2015 07:56 NydusHerMain wrote: I just feel like no matter what, the red check is going to get you in the end regardless of your alignment.
I will not let that happen. Ever.
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On June 28 2015 07:58 Damdred wrote: The correct play is to lynch the scummiest player.
If you lynch hf do it for a real reason not just a red check as in a totally closed setup doesn't mean quite as much.
For example why would scum team totally sacrifice mig for hf there? Idk what the point is except we go gb, mig then hf in that scenario.
It looks much more likely atm that role cop gb drew Out vayne and we have a mislynch in hf incoming.
This is pretty much correct. If i am mafia i worked my ass off taking a day off work just to appear towny just so my team mate would claim tracker and get us both lynched for it? That doesn't make any sense in the slightest.
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I'm pretty sure hf will be around until 2 v 1 if we get to that point.
I have to look through hf filter a bit to see if I see anything. But right now time is better spent getting thoughts out or questioning any inconsistencies you find
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On June 28 2015 07:58 Damdred wrote: The correct play is to lynch the scummiest player.
If you lynch hf do it for a real reason not just a red check as in a totally closed setup doesn't mean quite as much.
For example why would scum team totally sacrifice mig for hf there? Idk what the point is except we go gb, mig then hf in that scenario.
It looks much more likely atm that role cop gb drew Out vayne and we have a mislynch in hf incoming.
Could you explain this sentence? I know that it's possible to be framed or miller, but still that's a pretty low chance.
According to your logic I would be voting for Onegu / shockey. Most likely Onegu. Which wouldn't feel bad at all to me.
I guess since there are 3 mafia left and we *have* to lynch correctly every day, we should go for the safest option first. If we get even 1 incorrectly we lose and the game is over.
Then it's really up for discussion though what you would consider as the scummiest player. Can having a redcheck on you be considered scummy? I think it could be argued that it is, but it seems I'm pretty lonley in that view.
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On June 28 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote: I'm pretty sure hf will be around until 2 v 1 if we get to that point.
I have to look through hf filter a bit to see if I see anything. But right now time is better spent getting thoughts out or questioning any inconsistencies you find
What makes you sure HF will be around for so long?
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It depends.
For example we really don't know what the scum team has, its possible that they don't have a rb or a godfather etc. Have a framer or we have a Miller.
Sometimes a red check just doesn't mean as much in a closed setup then it does in an open setup. Does that mean hf is lock town? No he is the best scum player on site after all.
Rs and gb are probably unobtrusive fists at me currently but yeah I just want to find the other two scum before we decide on hf
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On June 28 2015 08:22 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote: I'm pretty sure hf will be around until 2 v 1 if we get to that point.
I have to look through hf filter a bit to see if I see anything. But right now time is better spent getting thoughts out or questioning any inconsistencies you find What makes you sure HF will be around for so long?
Why wouldn't scum,keep a red check around to mislynch one day?
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Why wouldn't they just mislynch him now?
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Well it's night obviously, and mug was obvious scum. If he's town and he gets mislynch tomorrow and he's town we lose obviously so can't make it to 2 v1
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If you could win the game right now, why wait until later when he has been able to figure out who the mafia are?
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We still have a lot of time left. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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heres what it comes down to for me
2 out of damdred, onegu, and shockeyy are scum imo, have to figure out who is town of those.
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I'm confused? Scum doesn't have a majority so they have to convince town to lynch hf if he's town. The only people pushing against it is myself and oneg.
Ls thinks he's towny but would lynch him. So it's not like it's hard to get him lynched.
Unless you think the team is me hf and oneg. Which is I,sulting
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On June 28 2015 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote: heres what it comes down to for me
2 out of damdred, onegu, and shockeyy are scum imo, have to figure out who is town of those.
Could you at least explain why you think,I'm scum if it's just Poe so,be it but a quick explanation
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On June 28 2015 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote: heres what it comes down to for me
2 out of damdred, onegu, and shockeyy are scum imo, have to figure out who is town of those.
who's the third?
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Ok, so I put together everyone's scumreads since I asked people to discuss them some pages back.(The list might not be 100% accurate)
This is the overview :
ruXxar (2) : Damdred, Onegu Fidei (0) : Vayne (1) : Damdred, LightningStrike (1) : Onegu NydusHerMain (0) : Onegu (5) : Ruxxar, Damdred, Shockey, Vayne, Shockey Holyflare (4) : Ruxxar, Fidei, Damdred, Vayne Damdred (3) : Shockey, HF, Vayne Shockeyy (4) : Ruxxar, Damdred, Lightningstrike, Nydus
From this we can see that Onegu, HF, Shockey and damdred are the top suspects.
One interesting observation is how everyone has at least 1 scumread between those 4 except for onegu. Another observation is how Onegu and damdred are the only ones that have any suspects outside of those 4.
I'm not really sure what to make of this list at the moment, but at least it's easier to see where people stand.
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I see I listed shockey twice on Onegu, woops!
ruXxar (2) : Damdred, Onegu Fidei (0) : Vayne (1) : Damdred, LightningStrike (1) : Onegu NydusHerMain (0) : Onegu (4) : Ruxxar, Damdred, Shockey, Vayne Holyflare (4) : Ruxxar, Fidei, Damdred, Vayne Damdred (3) : Shockey, HF, Vayne Shockeyy (4) : Ruxxar, Damdred, Lightningstrike, Nydus
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i don't know why you can't just base the game off of people's play? you seem to be doing everything BUT that and using all these metrics that you shouldn't be using
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I've already judged people off their plays and given my reasons for that.
Right now I'm looking for extra information beyond that. Maybe it's useful, maybe it's not. But if I can even adjust the certainty of my vote by a few %, then it's useful to me.
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no you haven't you've just said i'm a red check and left it at that and based none of that on my play which will in the end lose the game
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