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Onegu
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On March 13 2015 01:54 Koshi wrote: Onegu his vote didn't look good at all. He asked you what to do and didn't just do what he should do and that is vote with you. This isn't even true... | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
He says he'd like to kill me but he can't really justify it because he thinks I would have bused JAT. Says he's in "a weird spot" because he had townreads on ritoky and marv. Then what does he do after this admittedly pretty good post?
Not bothering to finish this but the gist of the rest is that he talks a bit with ritoky once ritoky starts to play, he briefly does setup spec that isn't alignment-indicative and then he gets into it with me, entirely of my initiative mind. You'll notice the following things are absent from the list: [1] Doing anything to figure out Onegu. [2] Doing anything to pressure his other scum suspects, instead just ignoring his VCA and deciding to townread them anyway. [3] Doing anything to pressure the people he decides are probably mafia instead (rsoultin and me). Also, giving any explanation as to why he decided to throw away the point about JAT townreading rsoultin and me. So Damdred, where's the pressure on me? You said I needed to be pressured because my play was weird. Why haven't you made a single bit of effort to take the initiative in questioning me? If I'm the bad guy and you're town then why am I the one constantly having to take the fight to you? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
the fact that onegu was at the same place as me on page 100some + the fact he claimed VT reinforces my belief that he is VT like me. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
go look at down under 2 where he literally did the exact same post as town. at the exact same point. congratz. your read on damdred is bad, i already told you why he would be mafia if he is. | ||
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Damdred
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Damdred doesn't pressure you or rsoultin hrmmmm. Both of you had strange interactions between yourselves, I pinged out rsoultin day before town read rsoultin and obviously if your interactions are weird and I think one mafia has to be between you it has to be YOU! I've also tried to figure out why you did things, but you decided to go full robik at this point instead of having an actual discussion I asked about the JAT thing and you decided to go full rage mode or full retard idk which. hard to do anything with oneg when he's literally hundred pages behind at points never in thread with me? That's really a non point honestly Like this whole case is bullshit and you should feel bad cause I'm never getting lynched | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Good god your dense | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 13 2015 13:11 ritoky wrote: oh it's a summary of damdred doing vote analysis and then you just quoting his shit and whining. okay. go look at down under 2 where he literally did the exact same post as town. at the exact same point. congratz. your read on damdred is bad, i already told you why he would be mafia if he is. It's not about the post, it's the complete lack of followup to any of the conclusions within it. He says you, Onegu and marv are the final mafia pool, then he pulls you and marv out and calls you town while never doing anything about Onegu. He says rsoultin and I were weird and needed to be pressured, he never does any of that. I said the analysis post itself was fine. And I know he makes those posts as either alignment. I saw it in Student VI as well. The problem is that there's no followup. That's what makes him suspicious. | ||
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Damdred
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I've never done. vca as scum never ever ever ever ever ever Lynch all ljars ##vote eden Lyn,h all liars and lynch people that play like robik | ||
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Damdred
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gsbsjdkspdmdnakdoaojfhdkakdl Lynch Eden | ||
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Damdred
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 13 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote: You are terribad if you are town here Eden seriously. Damdred doesn't pressure you or rsoultin hrmmmm. Both of you had strange interactions between yourselves, I pinged out rsoultin day before town read rsoultin and obviously if your interactions are weird and I think one mafia has to be between you it has to be YOU! I've also tried to figure out why you did things, but you decided to go full robik at this point instead of having an actual discussion I asked about the JAT thing and you decided to go full rage mode or full retard idk which. hard to do anything with oneg when he's literally hundred pages behind at points never in thread with me? That's really a non point honestly Like this whole case is bullshit and you should feel bad cause I'm never getting lynched You haven't tried to figure out what I'm doing at all. Here is the comprehensive list of questions you've asked me since you started calling my play weird during n1 and before the post you just replied to: On March 13 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote: You are ignoring Palmar saying he wasn't actually blue I believe? You are not trying to figure out what I'm doing. Don't even try to act like it. This is what you look like when you have someone you think is suspicious and you're trying to figure out what they're doing: On February 27 2015 03:08 Damdred wrote: Well art, what did you think of some of my conclussions and things I drew from my vca? Who do you disagree with most besides yourself or who would you switch yourself with? On February 27 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote: Do you think i'm right on SL and Node? which is more likely do you think? i'm leaning more towards node probably On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote: Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do? Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. On February 27 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote: It looks like in yoru filter you voted before you looked into yamato? Look at the questions you've asked me since your analysis. Compare them to the questions you've asked Artanis since your analysis. How can you honestly say that you're trying to figure me out with anywhere near the same rigor as you were in that game? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 13 2015 13:27 Damdred wrote: Udvdjdbgajdifbshsonfhddbsuisicf I've never done. vca as scum never ever ever ever ever ever Lynch all ljars ##vote eden Lyn,h all liars and lynch people that play like robik OK, so change "he does this as both alignments" to "he does this as town" or "he's capable of doing this as either alignment." The thrust of my argument is the same and you know this. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
i am confirmed VT, onegu is like 90% VT, LS is uncc'd PR, rayn claimed PR there's your town. koochi is probably town unless he lives too long, then he did the strat he did with slam that i mentioned earlier. someone should remember that post if i am not around. so the lynches should be between eden, damdred, marv, prp, and palmar there's 2 mafia in that group. i am reading damdred town for now...dunno he faded over the night phase for me, but not enough to be called scum. last time i saw palmar troll like this he was town, imagine he can do it as either alignment, so meh; w/e pass for today. lynch for today eden, marv, or prp. voila solved the day phase. | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
Eden is shoveling shit on everyone. He has in just day two gone with as mafia: Palmar Rayn Me Ritoky Damdred LS That's over half the player list. He isn't trying to figure the game out just yelling whenever something comes up. I know he changes his reads often, but this game he doesn't change his reads he just drops them to pick them up later, there is a big difference. ##Vote: Eden1892 | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 13 2015 13:30 Damdred wrote: Lynch all liars, this just in damdred never scum read Eden first. Damdred never was proactive in this game. Lynch all liars, this in folks damdred never called out anything in the thread or tried to do anything. gsbsjdkspdmdnakdoaojfhdkakdl Lynch Eden What are you even doing right now? I am providing you with a detailed citation of your own play and inviting you to show me how the record points to you being town. This after you complained about me "playing like Robik" and not being willing to play like you want. Now I'm playing ball with you and giving you plenty of opportunity to have a civil discussion and this is the best you can come up with? Insulting my mistake in not pushing JAT harder, clear distortions of what I'm saying and incoherent babbling? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On March 13 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote: basically i think the following: i am confirmed VT, onegu is like 90% VT, LS is uncc'd PR, rayn claimed PR there's your town. koochi is probably town unless he lives too long, then he did the strat he did with slam that i mentioned earlier. someone should remember that post if i am not around. so the lynches should be between eden, damdred, marv, prp, and palmar there's 2 mafia in that group. i am reading damdred town for now...dunno he faded over the night phase for me, but not enough to be called scum. last time i saw palmar troll like this he was town, imagine he can do it as either alignment, so meh; w/e pass for today. lynch for today eden, marv, or prp. voila solved the day phase. This is really close to my reads, I'd put Koshi higher and I am fairly sure marv is town. I could see Damdred being scum but meh. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 13 2015 13:34 Onegu wrote: Ok I have skimmed everything. The way Eden reacted to Palmars claim was really weird. Then the way he reacted to LS making his blue claim was really weird. I also don't really see Damdred as scum here. His case on Damdred isn't very strong its basicly Damdred isnt solving the game. Eden is shoveling shit on everyone. He has in just day two gone with as mafia: Palmar Rayn Me Ritoky Damdred LS That's over half the player list. He isn't trying to figure the game out just yelling whenever something comes up. I know he changes his reads often, but this game he doesn't change his reads he just drops them to pick them up later, there is a big difference. ##Vote: Eden1892 This guy is very likely mafia too fwiw. I am very clearly trying to figure the game out and I'm being incredibly detailed by my own standards in laying out my arguments. What was weird about my reaction to either claim? Be specific. Why don't you see Damdred as mafia? What's weak about my case on Damdred? Do you disagree that Damdred isn't trying to solve the game, and if so, why do you disagree? If you agree, why do you think that isn't alignment-indicative? Again, specifics. What reads did I drop to pick up later, and what is suspicious about doing so? | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 13 2015 13:34 Onegu wrote: Ok I have skimmed everything. The way Eden reacted to Palmars claim was really weird. Then the way he reacted to LS making his blue claim was really weird. I also don't really see Damdred as scum here. His case on Damdred isn't very strong its basicly Damdred isnt solving the game. Eden is shoveling shit on everyone. He has in just day two gone with as mafia: Palmar Rayn Me Ritoky Damdred LS That's over half the player list. He isn't trying to figure the game out just yelling whenever something comes up. I know he changes his reads often, but this game he doesn't change his reads he just drops them to pick them up later, there is a big difference. ##Vote: Eden1892 On March 13 2015 13:37 Onegu wrote: This is really close to my reads, I'd put Koshi higher and I am fairly sure marv is town. I could see Damdred being scum but meh. Boy bye | ||
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