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On February 10 2015 10:58 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 10:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 10 2015 09:20 Damdred wrote: Like that YouTube post just feels so blah and gloating to me This is not a good point to make ftr. Feels don't make a case. Stop being dumb obi, feeling tone etc. Can catch mafia.
I know they can.
The issue is that what you're saying can be interpreted multiple ways and saying that "it feels gloaty" isn't enough to warrant a lynch. I think you might be letting confirmation bias affect you atm.
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Also the reason I liked that post GD just made is that it limits his options: I'd imagine that I'm a prime lynch candidate for tomorrow just based on geript and rayn wanting to lynch me. If GD comes up with reasons to say "I don't like lynching this player for these reasons" that means that he has to come up with new ones which is going to be difficult.
It would probably be easier to read him because of it if geript wasn't tunneling this hard but merh.
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LS what are your reads I don't see any in your filter
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On February 10 2015 08:28 Damdred wrote: Slam where are you at on your reads It depends on rayn & Geript.
They have vastly different opinions on me, and Rayn's is very strong.
One of them is wrong, and this can shed light on ows from my perspective. However, they both peaced out as soon as I showed up.
Ows is either scum like they say (making a lot of sense atm) or, like on keirathi they are wrong (in that rayn was wrong- now he is sheeping Geript- understandably). But I know rayn was right on me.
This introduces a lot of wifom for me. What if rayn and Geript are varying degrees of right and wrong on stuff and rayn was right on ows before? And Geript is pushing ows for good reasons seemingly but it seemed good with keir too. So ows then may also be town.
And then we get to this wifom: what if rayn is scum? Does that affect things? Of course it does, and Geript would get a townread from me.
Harder for me to see is, what if Geript is scum? Then rayn gets a renewed townread from me, and well I came back to this draft and don't remember what I was saying before I had to leave.
Oh it means he has massive cred & such but that can be seen when we see what people flip & stuff
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On February 10 2015 11:04 Alakaslam wrote:It depends on rayn & Geript. They have vastly different opinions on me, and Rayn's is very strong. One of them is wrong, and this can shed light on ows from my perspective. However, they both peaced out as soon as I showed up. Ows is either scum like they say (making a lot of sense atm) or, like on keirathi they are wrong (in that rayn was wrong- now he is sheeping Geript- understandably). But I know rayn was right on me. This introduces a lot of wifom for me. What if rayn and Geript are varying degrees of right and wrong on stuff and rayn was right on ows before? And Geript is pushing ows for good reasons seemingly but it seemed good with keir too. So ows then may also be town. And then we get to this wifom: what if rayn is scum? Does that affect things? Of course it does, and Geript would get a townread from me. Harder for me to see is, what if Geript is scum? Then rayn gets a renewed townread from me, and well I came back to this draft and don't remember what I was saying before I had to leave. Oh it means he has massive cred & such but that can be seen when we see what people flip & stuff
Do you actually have a solid read on anyone or what?
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On February 10 2015 11:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 11:04 Alakaslam wrote:On February 10 2015 08:28 Damdred wrote: Slam where are you at on your reads It depends on rayn & Geript. They have vastly different opinions on me, and Rayn's is very strong. One of them is wrong, and this can shed light on ows from my perspective. However, they both peaced out as soon as I showed up. Ows is either scum like they say (making a lot of sense atm) or, like on keirathi they are wrong (in that rayn was wrong- now he is sheeping Geript- understandably). But I know rayn was right on me. This introduces a lot of wifom for me. What if rayn and Geript are varying degrees of right and wrong on stuff and rayn was right on ows before? And Geript is pushing ows for good reasons seemingly but it seemed good with keir too. So ows then may also be town. And then we get to this wifom: what if rayn is scum? Does that affect things? Of course it does, and Geript would get a townread from me. Harder for me to see is, what if Geript is scum? Then rayn gets a renewed townread from me, and well I came back to this draft and don't remember what I was saying before I had to leave. Oh it means he has massive cred & such but that can be seen when we see what people flip & stuff Do you actually have a solid read on anyone or what? No.
I am up for sheeping Geript to figure this out
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Right. I forgot. Geript is giving free townreads out for people who help him tunnel me.
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On February 10 2015 11:03 Fecalfeast wrote: LS what are your reads I don't see any in your filter
On February 09 2015 01:40 LightningStrike wrote:Yes gobbledydook been pretty inconsistent and his posting is weird but it's still early in the day and I never played with him before so I can't use meta on him I still finding it weird you got a instant town read on me after I posted like twice before you called me town. Here my pile for each type of read for now: Town: Rayn: Brought a early case and been pushing it pretty hard. Lian: Because he actually trying this game asking some good questions towards oh and he not copying my meta like he did in Void I think it was. Geript: His first post seem very much like his play in Student V although he seem to wasting some posts on fluff though if he trying to limit his posting. Keirathi: He been very defensive early due to rayns case and kept on telling ryan he is town it really odd play from him also asking lots of questions and trying to lead discussion with rayn Damdred: Seems like himself asking questions but he doing a over the top meta read on me is kind of unusual for him to do that on me o.o Null: OWS: Lots of 1 liners and lacking much content from him to make a good read on him. Slam: I finding it hard to read him this game but everyone told me he's hard to read correctly but his vote on Keirathi without much reason is striking me odd. sicklucker: I can't read him correctly anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was scum on Day 1 I need to see his play in N1 and D2 to see if he's town or scum. LM: Never posted. Now that LM posted I think he might be town but he's wrong on my alignment so (shrugs). I need to see sicklucker's play on Day 2 to figure him out still because his Day 1 is always weird as both alignments and he normally will look townie at Day 2 if he's town.
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Also my only scum is Gobbledydook atm I really like Damdred's case on him but he still didn't give me his filter from his scum game he mention.
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On February 10 2015 11:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Right. I forgot. Geript is giving free townreads out for people who help him tunnel me. I don't think I would get one for it.
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On February 10 2015 11:12 LightningStrike wrote: Also my only scum is Gobbledydook atm I really like Damdred's case on him but he still didn't give me his filter from his scum game he mention. Don't be a lazy ass go find it urself it's noir mini mafia 2 and it was a really shitty game all round
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On February 10 2015 11:19 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 11:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Right. I forgot. Geript is giving free townreads out for people who help him tunnel me. I don't think I would get one for it.
Sure buddy.
If I'm not scum, who is and why? Come up with reasons. Make some reads.
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On February 10 2015 11:23 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 11:12 LightningStrike wrote: Also my only scum is Gobbledydook atm I really like Damdred's case on him but he still didn't give me his filter from his scum game he mention. Don't be a lazy ass go find it urself it's noir mini mafia 2 and it was a really shitty game all round Okay ty for telling me the title of the game.
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On February 10 2015 10:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 10:58 Damdred wrote:On February 10 2015 10:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 10 2015 09:20 Damdred wrote: Like that YouTube post just feels so blah and gloating to me This is not a good point to make ftr. Feels don't make a case. Stop being dumb obi, feeling tone etc. Can catch mafia. I know they can. The issue is that what you're saying can be interpreted multiple ways and saying that "it feels gloaty" isn't enough to warrant a lynch. I think you might be letting confirmation bias affect you atm.
The title of the video was Do nothing and win, luigi of course. That is gloating a bit no matter how you look at it.
Also my case still stands, and your point about why Gobbles post is sorta wifom. Why do mafia hard defend townies for no reason? To get town cred at flips, Who cares if it limits options there might be a brand new wagon tomorrow maybe gobble will try to get LS lynched who knows. Also the post is extremely open ended, it doesnt' call you town it doesn't call you scum it says you are a coin flip. So i'm not really sure how it is limiting itself in that case?
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Also a lot of what gobble said was already stated by myself and lian in the thread?
And for a lot of pages gobble sure did disappear again without any other contribution or answering any questions that were brought up. So no its not confirmation bias as actions speak pretty loudly in this case.
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Either way this is going to be a catch post for me, i'm going to raid tonight and then watcha movie with the wife. So i'll wake up and leave a massive read post in case I die during the night/morning.
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On February 10 2015 12:24 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 10:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 10 2015 10:58 Damdred wrote:On February 10 2015 10:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 10 2015 09:20 Damdred wrote: Like that YouTube post just feels so blah and gloating to me This is not a good point to make ftr. Feels don't make a case. Stop being dumb obi, feeling tone etc. Can catch mafia. I know they can. The issue is that what you're saying can be interpreted multiple ways and saying that "it feels gloaty" isn't enough to warrant a lynch. I think you might be letting confirmation bias affect you atm. The title of the video was Do nothing and win, luigi of course. That is gloating a bit no matter how you look at it. Also my case still stands, and your point about why Gobbles post is sorta wifom. Why do mafia hard defend townies for no reason? To get town cred at flips, Who cares if it limits options there might be a brand new wagon tomorrow maybe gobble will try to get LS lynched who knows. Also the post is extremely open ended, it doesnt' call you town it doesn't call you scum it says you are a coin flip. So i'm not really sure how it is limiting itself in that case?
Yeah, I understand the point you're making but I don't see a huge amount of value in it.
The issue isn't that gobble is being open ended in calling me town or not. The issue is that he can't hop on my wagon for the same reasons rayn and geript are, which means that he's going to have to conjure up new reasons. If he decides to hop on my wagon for the reasons that he stated aren't very good, then he's mafia.
Get it?
I understand that you still want to lynch gobble, but at least be open to the fact that he could be town or we might need to lynch someone else.
I fully understand that I could be biased but, even if gobble is mafia, there are two more besides him.
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So OWS what are your reads atm and can you explain to me why your reads are the way there are please?
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I know what I think is the scum ream. Also it is either you or gobble so not sure if needing a reason is an issue.
I'm open to people being town, but gobble isn't trying to be town really
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On February 10 2015 12:43 LightningStrike wrote: So OWS what are your reads atm and can you explain to me why your reads are the way there are please?
Tomorrow, mayhaps.
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