EPTWCS 2015 Season 1 Maps Analysis - Page 2
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
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Champi
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feanaro
United States123 Posts
On February 01 2015 11:02 ROOTiaguz wrote: Normally true but Secret Spring gives you enough entry points around that main that it's good enough. Still think the map is fucking stupid though, it's central gimmick of a collapsible path down the middle never comes into play and the top left and right quadrants might as well not exist. Fuck this stupid map. I agree. In addition to being a gimmicky map in PvT, it has got to be the worst PvP map I have ever seen. Way too many places to hide proxy gates - anywhere in the gigantic main, or in the natural, or outside the main ramp. On top of that, the main to main rush distance is so short it is possible to make the gates even quicker, on 8 supply. Easily my least favorite map of the season (although Inferno Pools is giving it some close competition). | ||
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mCon.Hephaistas
Netherlands891 Posts
On February 01 2015 10:46 SatedSC2 wrote: All these maps bar Vaani are bad. OG and Vaani are the only good maps at present. Vaani is awful though | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Hope that Expedition Lost turns out balanced, the map is so much fun. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 01 2015 10:46 SatedSC2 wrote: All these maps bar Vaani are bad. OG and Vaani are the only good maps at present. Seriously? Vaani's probably the worst map in the pool. It might not be the most imbalanced, but it encourages turtly play above all else. Games on that map will be really really generic in all matchups. As for the other maps, I don't like inferno much though it hasn't been played on a lot. Secret Spring and Expedition Lost look like fun maps, though they might not be very balanced in some match-ups. We'll have to see how they turn out. | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
On February 01 2015 13:21 NewSunshine wrote: Size rankings, in descending order: 1)Alterzim Stronghold - 192x192 2)Korhal City/Inferno Pools - 180x180 4)Condemned Ridge - 188x172 5)Tal'Darim Altar - 176x176 Just for general information, not saying it should all be included. To your credit, the original statement that it's only beaten by Alterzim in terms of size was correct. What about calm before the storm? | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
And Secret Springs, re: Zerg trying to defend against 2 base with 3 bases? Nonsense, they can simply all in themselves... died to a baneling bust on that too. Fun all around! I think Vaani is the only map I've really enjoyed playing so far. I did have some fun games on Inferno Pools, including a 52 minute PvT epic. But in general, bleh. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
Never made ladder. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
also only 160x 160, though it certainly felt incredibly big | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On February 01 2015 15:36 Champi wrote: i dont like that protoss cant take 3rds on these maps. so boring yeah, every map said the same thing, sounds really tedious. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On February 02 2015 21:43 marvellosity wrote: yeah, every map said the same thing, sounds really tedious. It doesn't look like a very good map pool for protoss players, but there might be some interesting 2 base all-ins or proxies or other cheeses that work fairly well. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 03 2015 05:06 Whitewing wrote: It doesn't look like a very good map pool for protoss players, but there might be some interesting 2 base all-ins or proxies or other cheeses that work fairly well. Well if we follow Ret's reasoning it's a very good map pool for P players with all the inbase naturals^^ | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On February 03 2015 05:17 OtherWorld wrote: Well if we follow Ret's reasoning it's a very good map pool for P players with all the inbase naturals^^ Well, the inbase naturals helps you get to a 2 base all-in position very safely and easily, which is good for Protoss. However, the difficulty of taking the third means that the opponent should just know you're going to 2 base all-in. Thirds taken should be late and off the back of a significant army, but I don't know how feasible that is with the way people are currently playing. We'll just have to see. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
Thirds taken should be late and off the back of a significant army, but I don't know how feasible that is with the way people are currently playing. In PvZ it isnt | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
True, but 2 base all-ins might be a little easier in PvZ on these maps, so hopefully that works out. I'd expect to see protosses lose a lot on these maps. | ||
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