Imperial Mafia - Page 456

On January 16 2015 05:45 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm so scared of a team of Vivax and Artanis. It would explain the nightkill

Although I really believe Chez was killed because of WIFOM.

On January 15 2015 09:37 Vivax wrote:
I don't care Kelsier cause tomorrow I'll just spam what Artanis and me wrote on the last page.

And I'd be a fool to kill Artanis in this situation if I'm mafia, he's like my biggest bro right now, we posted the same scumteam within 5 minutes and more valuable than me pointing back to this post to prove I'm town cause he died.

So GL choosing your NK.

On January 16 2015 05:40 Damdred wrote:
I voted Marv GB thats what i'm doing today.

Besides that if you fucking read the game for once in the past two games you will see that I pressed SL all night last night, talked with vivax bouncing reads off of him and talked to artanis when he was here. And obviously argued with SL.

So not sure what you are on about now

On January 16 2015 05:49 Damdred wrote:
I've said that a lot GB.... I've moved marv into my three so go read the game while i'm at work

On January 16 2015 03:42 Damdred wrote:


I'm pretty sure it was implied I don't meta YOU anymore since hearthstone you know since i meta dived you through like 6 games or something absurd to make you out to be scum and I was wrong?

On January 15 2015 07:31 Damdred wrote:
Because you asked artanis dear, from most town to least town

Artanis
Vivax
Chez
Kel
GB
Marv
LM
SL

I gotta read a bit back, SL. You are using double standards to judge people now. Earlier you said LM is 100% town but now you are saying you want us to lynch him?

On January 15 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote:
Just got back from getting the wife.

I think I'm going to put SL to the side atm, we need to focus on a few things

On January 15 2015 21:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Alright here is the case against vivax.

D1 - The main push comes from Koshi, a lot of people agree with the read but vivax is never up for discussion really. Here is the case.


Then comes EOD. If you look at the way Viv voted D1 he just leaves his vote on chyz and doesn't do anything. If the vote is between two towns then there is no need for him to put his vote anywhere. Other people who waste their vote..Superbia and Ritoky. Hmm

So then N1 and the main suspect of Vivax is Koshi. Who dies in the night.

When D2 rolls around the main suspect of his is JAT, who he proceeds to push on despite basically everyone telling him the push isn't very good. This fits the pattern of when under heat Viv just pushes on random townies.

Now in the day I remember being uncomfortable with the way people just voted vivax/pushed vivax and then didn't do anything but if I look at that list of people













This array of people who all vote/push on Vivax , they are basically all town. In which case the pressure on him d2 isn't from a scum perspective and it is likely that a whole bunch of town actually found the mafia yet the pressure got away from him

Incidentally someone who doesn't want to vote him..



Anyway so he pressures JAT with a poor argument then EOD2 happens.
If we look at the votes.



We see in these votes that we have 3 real options. Geript,Vivax and super. Now end of day there is not quite enough to top to Super or Vivax and once again town gets lynched. We see again that Vivax doesn't want the lynch to be him or super with this.



Ok n3. Vivax goes back to his usual strategy of attacking towns when under pressure and goes after Robik, you know the cop. This time we hit on superbia. The votes are interesting we have 2 mafia wagons and where does Vivax park his vote



Again a total and complete waste.


Alright so then we have an auto day where we end up lynching Ritoky and finally we come to the day we lynch palmar.

Let's look at this post from me


We see that he apparently is "giving up his vote" but it comes with a condition, surprise m surprise the condition means that viv doesn't have to vote on LM.
This is my main point about him. Then we get to the night and all of a sudden he has his amazing theory of me/LM/Marv. I already explain why bussing is terrible.



And his main reason for pushing me is because I townread Superbia d3, despite giving all my legitimate reasons for doing so. No push on GB his old scum read.

Then when we both want to lynch LM, he suddenly decides he would lynch me over LM despite this being a terrible play. We can clearly see Vivax going for the mafia win today.


As a final point I want to point to this.



For vivax to be town and me to be mafia, the 4 confirmed town all have to be wrong on vivax and of those JAT and Robik have to be wrong on me aswell.


Sorry if this is long and wordy but this should be enough to convince you vivax is mafia alongside LM

On December 31 2014 16:26 sicklucker wrote:
Ritoky dandred did not break doctors "policys" He didnt "lie" he made a joke. I think your taking this too literal and doctor was totally making a joke as well. I think you look terrible attacking someone for making a joke about a joke.

@SL i think his policy is crap, he isn't maintaining it, and suddenly he has "joke" exemptions. furthermore i think he is a hypocrite and uninterested in finding scum.

On December 31 2014 17:40 sicklucker wrote:


Dude I was mafia in final 3 in a game where you were town. Thats why im calling bullshit on your reads on me. We have never been the same alignment and you wont even admit you have mafia meta on me.

As for not listening to people who I thought were mafia I was right about every single one of them. Even hf I was stringing along who I said was 95% mafia. So like your reads totally wrong and made up im calling you out. Your my top scum so far.

On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote:


sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor?

On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote:


sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor?

you have a huge town read on doctor at that point?

On December 31 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote:
@DRH - I read your case on Chyz and I like the effort and you do seem to believe what you are saying which is good.

what I don't like is content of the case itself. You do repeat yourself a lot and that makes it hard to break down but essentially you don't like his reasons for "attacking" eden.
The way I read the interaction is that he made his post where he didn't give a read and then you pushed him to give a read of his own and he had "my scumread is eden" for a few reasons..I agree they aren't very conclusive reasons.
He says then that his read isn't conclusive just at that early moment in the game he has a slight scum read. Nothing wrong with that.
His vote on you is a joke about garbage votes.

So at this stage in the game you have a huge mafia post which due to a lack of real reasons ends up with a lot of repetition. Again I applaud the effort but I don't think chyz is scummy. Especially for the reasons you gave.

On December 31 2014 20:29 KelsierSC wrote:


in his defence you did give two people as meh. chyz was town and who else did you give a read on?

Tldr: I have TheChyz as pretty cool guy. Ritoky as meh. Dr.H. as meh. They are meh because I am feeling generous.

On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote:


sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor?

you have a huge town read on doctor at that point?

On December 31 2014 20:37 KelsierSC wrote:


I suppose you do sort of call eden scummy when you say "I agree with chyz"

I don't think DRH had an unreasonable statement , on first glance you only have one real read. if you don't count meh as a read.

I read DRH as super eager , try hard town.