On July 03 2014 07:19 Cavalinho wrote:
You.
Also I just went to go make a sandwich. Cool your jets.
You.
Also I just went to go make a sandwich. Cool your jets.
Show me when you scumread me before N1 please.
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Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 22:22 GMT
#1681
On July 03 2014 07:19 Cavalinho wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2014 07:16 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 07:11 Cavalinho wrote: On July 03 2014 07:07 ObviousOne wrote: wouldn't not having a check be a result of roleblocked if you're the cop? Obviously? Idk, my mind sort of glossed over the fact that I didn't even have my check. I've been disregarding my checks the whole time since I just assumed I just wouldn't have them anymore. Who did you send in? You. Also I just went to go make a sandwich. Cool your jets. Show me when you scumread me before N1 please. | ||
Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 22:22 GMT
#1682
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
July 02 2014 22:24 GMT
#1683
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
July 02 2014 22:25 GMT
#1684
On July 03 2014 07:20 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2014 07:18 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 07:15 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 07:05 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 07:00 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 06:57 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 06:54 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 06:51 Cavalinho wrote: On July 03 2014 06:50 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 06:47 Cavalinho wrote: Are you even trying to hide the pretense that you're looking for almost any reason to try to lynch me at this point? Have you played with the thought that mafia is more likely to believe your claim, as 2 dead townies who didn't are the sample size for that reaction? If you believe rainbows is town you can add another one on top. Huh? Both Koshi and Robik were reluctant to accept your claim, both are now confirmed town. Rainbows looks townie (do you disagree on this?), and I am town. If you are indeed a town cop, don't you find it odd that there were people willing to accept it at face value rather early despite your so far scummy play? Robik wasn't just reluctant he straight up said "Cav isn't the cop" he went so far as to CC him as cop during the resolution period. That was reaction fishing, which is obvious in retrospect. It's funny you believed it though cause he called the second check even before the night ended so he couldn't have it. At the time I was thinking to myself that it could be a reaction coming from you knowing that Cav is mafia, and overshooting before even thinking about whether it was true. Maybe that version of events is true, which is why now I'm talking to Cav to see if he is willing to ignore the evidence that townies so far seemed to doubt his claim more than some other individuals. If I knew Cav was mafia and Robik said I was town I would know robik is fake. In fact there are so many possible variations of your reaction to what Robik did that I prefer to not touch that argument any further. I agree it makes me look too town for your push on me at any point to work. If you think it makes you look town then your mafia you would also think that it would make you look town. use more wifom plz Sure thing I wouldn't kill robik cause he didn't want to lynch me and was literally never a role. Also you brought it up | ||
Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 22:25 GMT
#1685
On July 03 2014 07:24 Cavalinho wrote: I don't understand the question. I didn't scumread you until our back and forth during the mderg lynch. But you just said you sent me in. Me. You had two actions to send in. If you didn't scumread me before D2 then why did you send me in N1? Jesus, do you understand it now? | ||
Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 22:26 GMT
#1686
On July 03 2014 07:25 Tehpoofter wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2014 07:20 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 07:18 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 07:15 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 07:05 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 07:00 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 06:57 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 06:54 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 06:51 Cavalinho wrote: On July 03 2014 06:50 Vivax wrote: [quote] Have you played with the thought that mafia is more likely to believe your claim, as 2 dead townies who didn't are the sample size for that reaction? If you believe rainbows is town you can add another one on top. Huh? Both Koshi and Robik were reluctant to accept your claim, both are now confirmed town. Rainbows looks townie (do you disagree on this?), and I am town. If you are indeed a town cop, don't you find it odd that there were people willing to accept it at face value rather early despite your so far scummy play? Robik wasn't just reluctant he straight up said "Cav isn't the cop" he went so far as to CC him as cop during the resolution period. That was reaction fishing, which is obvious in retrospect. It's funny you believed it though cause he called the second check even before the night ended so he couldn't have it. At the time I was thinking to myself that it could be a reaction coming from you knowing that Cav is mafia, and overshooting before even thinking about whether it was true. Maybe that version of events is true, which is why now I'm talking to Cav to see if he is willing to ignore the evidence that townies so far seemed to doubt his claim more than some other individuals. If I knew Cav was mafia and Robik said I was town I would know robik is fake. In fact there are so many possible variations of your reaction to what Robik did that I prefer to not touch that argument any further. I agree it makes me look too town for your push on me at any point to work. If you think it makes you look town then your mafia you would also think that it would make you look town. use more wifom plz Sure thing I wouldn't kill robik cause he didn't want to lynch me and was literally never a role. Also you brought it up Implying you are the only guy who decides the kills on your hypothetical mafia team? Why would I kill Robik then? | ||
Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
July 02 2014 22:28 GMT
#1687
On July 03 2014 07:25 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2014 07:24 Cavalinho wrote: I don't understand the question. I didn't scumread you until our back and forth during the mderg lynch. But you just said you sent me in. Me. You had two actions to send in. If you didn't scumread me before D2 then why did you send me in N1? Jesus, do you understand it now? Oh. I sent kush in n1. You were my n2 check. | ||
Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 22:29 GMT
#1688
On June 29 2014 04:44 Cavalinho wrote: Haru: Haru's entry into the thread is downright awful. It reeks of "I fit in with you guys," but it stands out to me for two reasons: 1) It's late. He simply had no way to insert himself into the game otherwise so he tried to latch on to an RVS that ended several pages ago. 2) It's forced. Jokes are good, but his joke was so awful and out there that I think he simply had no idea how to open. The post strikes me as a way of forcing himself into the thread. I don't like it. I don't get how people think it's towny. His case on Koshi was pretty bad, just some lazy post-by-post analysis followed up by an "oh I don't think anyone is scummy." There's a lack of consistence in his reads and I don't understand how people can go "oh, that's not so bad." I know people were harping on it for a while but I don't feel like it was ever addressed/answered properly. And then there's the issue of his read on me. He says he's okay with lynching me because I'm still harping on Robik being scum, while I am trying to sheep Robik on his case. His comment is incredibly opportunistic and he isn't even bothering to come up with a good excuse for trying to lynch me. I think a lot of people are being clouded by "omg cav so scummy" when stuff like this is happening. If we can't get a wagon on sinani going, we 100% lynch Haru today. sinani: His read on Robik is genuine garbage and I haven't seen a thing from him to make me think otherwise. Robik has a good case here and I think more people need to sheep him. His reasoning for unvoting/voting Robik is awful He's waffling on a lot of his reads, and mostly because people are telling him to. He's merely following thread sentiment and I don't think he cares much about who's getting lynched. It isn't even a matter of survival, he was doing this even back when Robik claimed scum. Another good lynch. Kush: I feel like I need more time to determine how I actually feel about kush. I think I'm letting my past of "omfg I'm getting lynched day 1" color my read and I think I'd like more time to sit down and actually sift through what he's trying to accomplish. His ExO vote was lulzy and opportunistic, though. Koshi: I've had you as town for a while, but your accusations don't really make much sense. You're voting me with both of your scumreads, and you're pushing me for sheeping someone because idk. Your filter looks okay aside from this, though. Please stop being silly. Rainbows: I can draw almost all of the parallels between Order and here. He is aggro in all of the right ways and showing doubt in the proper places. His tone is really good and he has made a number of good posts this game. Poofter: Another garbage read on Robik. When pressured, his reasoning behind it was...Okay. I guess. I simply haven't seen enough of him today. Definitely needs to step up his activity. His filter feels like a cliffhanger, with a question and without any conclusions being drawn. OO: I'm wary of this guy. His opening reminded me of NAN and now a bunch of people are coming in and making me look like an asshole. That mood post was kinda "eh," and struck me as filler, and his Palmar read is silly, even if I ultimately think it's correct. His filter looks decent though, and I want to see what Koshi/kush are thinking in regards to him. ExO: This is nothing more than a gut read. I don't like how people are pushing him as a lynch while he isn't even playing the game. The dude is nothing more than lynchbait, and we should probably try to lynch a scummy person today instead. He can step up his play later or get replaced and then we have more information to work with. I haven't even finished my reads list, and I checked back and more people are voting me. Wtf... Why kush and not haru? | ||
Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
July 02 2014 22:31 GMT
#1689
I even mapped out what I wanted to accomplish on day 2 and nobody listened to me. Not my fault he acted superscum on day 2 and made me change my mind. | ||
Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
July 02 2014 22:47 GMT
#1690
On July 03 2014 07:26 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2014 07:25 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 07:20 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 07:18 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 07:15 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 07:05 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 07:00 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 06:57 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 06:54 Vivax wrote: On July 03 2014 06:51 Cavalinho wrote: [quote] Huh? Both Koshi and Robik were reluctant to accept your claim, both are now confirmed town. Rainbows looks townie (do you disagree on this?), and I am town. If you are indeed a town cop, don't you find it odd that there were people willing to accept it at face value rather early despite your so far scummy play? Robik wasn't just reluctant he straight up said "Cav isn't the cop" he went so far as to CC him as cop during the resolution period. That was reaction fishing, which is obvious in retrospect. It's funny you believed it though cause he called the second check even before the night ended so he couldn't have it. At the time I was thinking to myself that it could be a reaction coming from you knowing that Cav is mafia, and overshooting before even thinking about whether it was true. Maybe that version of events is true, which is why now I'm talking to Cav to see if he is willing to ignore the evidence that townies so far seemed to doubt his claim more than some other individuals. If I knew Cav was mafia and Robik said I was town I would know robik is fake. In fact there are so many possible variations of your reaction to what Robik did that I prefer to not touch that argument any further. I agree it makes me look too town for your push on me at any point to work. If you think it makes you look town then your mafia you would also think that it would make you look town. use more wifom plz Sure thing I wouldn't kill robik cause he didn't want to lynch me and was literally never a role. Also you brought it up Implying you are the only guy who decides the kills on your hypothetical mafia team? Why would I kill Robik then? Good point Just doing WiFOM stuff for you. | ||
ExO_
United States2316 Posts
July 02 2014 22:48 GMT
#1691
On July 03 2014 07:17 Tehpoofter wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2014 07:10 ExO_ wrote: On July 03 2014 07:06 Tehpoofter wrote: On July 03 2014 07:05 ExO_ wrote: vivax is going to try his best to instill doubt. Do not let him. If you are town vote HarURH (since we seem to be leaning harurh over vivax). I'm on the vivax train of justice. Hop on. Get on Harurh for now. If we can all agree to go vivax we can switch, but for now we should sit in the same guy. I Think Haru is town though. I can consolidate later but I find it odd you don't think vivax is gaining steam. There are more votes for Harurh. I voted for vivax then switched to harurh because others voted harurh. Vivax is my #1 scumread though so ill happily switch back to him, if everyone is willing to do so. We should not be divided though. thats how mafia can fuck us | ||
Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 22:57 GMT
#1692
On July 01 2014 13:34 Cavalinho wrote: OO, scratch that last. I just filter dove haru and his vote is literal garbage. He's voting kush because kush "slipped" that I was going to flip town, in yet still has me as a scumread a couple posts later. So the slip doesn't actually exist and his entire reasoning for voting kush doesn't exist. There's some stupid shit about my flavor being scum based and oh my god why is this guy still here. Like he's not even trying to justify his vote and I don't see any reason to believe he's town because of it. I will absolutely lynch Haru if Vivax gives me some decent answers. Haru didn't reply to this, which he should do, but I'll show you what Cav is meaning: + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2014 11:30 HaruRH wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2014 10:19 kushm4sta wrote: * haru setting himself up to lynch mderg after cav flips town Kush scumslips ##Unvote ##Vote: Kush His vote on me is completely hinging on the fact that cav flips town. What confidence. This is what Haru calls out about Kush, in a next post he still calls Cava scum + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2014 11:36 HaruRH wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2014 10:27 ObviousOne wrote: The pissed is more about status of how games play out not about winning I think it was in the scum or obs qt Wifom. I was pissed because everyone didn't understand that 1 game of meta cant be used, thus I switched up and got meta read. This wagon on me by oo and kush is so telling. Scumpool: cav kush oo exo mderg 3/5 is scum here Since Haru didn't reply to what you posted there yet, I would like get an opinion from him. He seems to think that kush is scum for that read based on Cav alignment, but the little bit where he says "what confidence" makes me think that the confidence was a reason to scumread kush in the first place, and not his own read on Cav. And if you actually go and look at what he meant with scumslip: + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2014 10:17 kushm4sta wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2014 10:10 ObviousOne wrote: wait so town shot palmar? two vig claims? can we just lynch both of them for being functionally retarded? thanks bro... about robik's claim. Im pretty sure it's a lie but I really dont understand wtf he is doing. As for shooting palmar, he looked scummy as fuck. All night long I was like WHY IS PALMAR TOWN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME. No one did. I Said why I thought palmar was scummy, no one responded. I think it was a fine vig shot. But nice job defending palmar after the fact. I'm currently thinking either you or poofter must be scum, due to balance. You could both be scum honestly. ~~~ Maybe we shouldn't kill cav actually until the other PR is ready to claim. hmmm. I think haru is very scummy it looks like he is setting himself up to vote mderg after cav flips scum. ##unvote ~~~ But yeah rob needs to get back in here and straight talk with me. corrected by kush with this: + Show Spoiler + * haru setting himself up to lynch mderg after cav flips town The stuff kush is saying DOES actually look odd, now that I realize it. | ||
Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 22:59 GMT
#1693
~~~ Maybe we shouldn't kill cav actually until the other PR is ready to claim. hmmm. I think haru is very scummy it looks like he is setting himself up to vote mderg after cav flips scum. | ||
Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 23:01 GMT
#1694
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Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 23:04 GMT
#1695
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Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 23:22 GMT
#1696
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
July 02 2014 23:33 GMT
#1697
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Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 23:50 GMT
#1698
If you look at it you will see how Cav starts his day on the premise that his wagon was scum driven. Knowing that I'm town and believing that rainbows is, that should leave kush, who claimed vigi and got instacleared, and obviousone, + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2014 08:29 Cavalinho wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2014 08:13 IAmRobik wrote: cava isn't cop btw. but we can leave him alive for a bit longer Look, the people doubting me here need to fucking stop. I just had my role outed and was nearly lynched for the third time in a row. I just lost all of my checks and I'm a likely mislynch at some point because I had a shitty day 1. I can take responsibility for playing as badly as I did, but I've played my hand and the fact that people can doubt me at this point is ridiculous. I am the cop, and I'm uncc'd. The reason for that is, shockingly, because I am actually the cop. Also, since I'm making a giant post, I might as well map out what we're doing today: We're not lynching anyone on sinani. We find the scum hiding on my bandwagon from yesterday. We lynch them. My wagon yesterday was so obviously scum-driven that it pains me to listen to people make me out as mafia. Everytime I disappeared, people just went nuts and I couldn't deal with the fallout. I'd like someone to sit down and give me one, one good reason as to why we shouldn't believe me. I'm going to have a bunch of questions ready for people to answer as soon as I can, but I'm not leaving until we squash this shit right here and now. On June 29 2014 06:03 Holyflare wrote: Vote Count - Day 1: Palmar (0): Vivax (0): sinani206 (6): Tehpoofter (0): kushm4sta (0): IAmRobik (0): ObviousOne (0): Koshi (0): HaruRH (1): Cavalinho (6): ExO_ (0): mderg (0): Not voting: Nobody! sinani206 has been lynched with 6 votes! Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! sinani206 the VT (Japan) has been lynched + Show Spoiler + You are Japan (VT). Your citizens are exemplary examples of what every football fan should be. You clean up the mess that you and others make, you are courteous and forgiving. You are the heroes that people deserve but not the ones they need right now. Your only power is your vote. You win when you eliminate all the mafia. You have until Sunday, Jun 29 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) () to get your actions in before the resolution period! ExO_ has been warned for inactivity On June 30 2014 09:13 Cavalinho wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2014 09:03 Rainbows wrote: On June 30 2014 09:01 Rainbows wrote: On June 30 2014 08:59 Cavalinho wrote: On June 30 2014 08:53 ExO_ wrote: Forget Cavalinho, Robik is all over the place. Silly fake claims, says palmar is town and he shot him. Just generally trying to look like somebody fucking around. Only I think that's exactly it. He's trying to look like he's a townie messing around. He's scum in town's clothing...or more like scum dressed like a town trying to dress like fake scum. Whatever it is, he's cross dressing up a storm. ##Lynch Robik Possibly. His play isn't entirely congruent, so there could be something here. We aren't lynching Robik today though. The people on the sinani wagon should be like confirmed town to you right now. Focus on the people on my wagon. Why? kushm4sta, ObviousOne, HaruRH, Vivax This is a fucking retarded list to lynch into. Everyone I didn't list is either confirmed town or myself. And kush is probably the vigi. Nope. lol. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Haru wasn't on my lynch because he was actually paying attention and being rational. If kush is actually the vig then holy shit what is he doing. That leaves Vivax, OO, and...you. So let's start: Why did you vote me? On June 30 2014 09:51 Cavalinho wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2014 09:27 Rainbows wrote: On June 30 2014 09:22 Cavalinho wrote: On June 30 2014 09:15 Rainbows wrote: On June 30 2014 09:13 Cavalinho wrote: On June 30 2014 09:03 Rainbows wrote: On June 30 2014 09:01 Rainbows wrote: On June 30 2014 08:59 Cavalinho wrote: On June 30 2014 08:53 ExO_ wrote: Forget Cavalinho, Robik is all over the place. Silly fake claims, says palmar is town and he shot him. Just generally trying to look like somebody fucking around. Only I think that's exactly it. He's trying to look like he's a townie messing around. He's scum in town's clothing...or more like scum dressed like a town trying to dress like fake scum. Whatever it is, he's cross dressing up a storm. ##Lynch Robik Possibly. His play isn't entirely congruent, so there could be something here. We aren't lynching Robik today though. The people on the sinani wagon should be like confirmed town to you right now. Focus on the people on my wagon. Why? kushm4sta, ObviousOne, HaruRH, Vivax This is a fucking retarded list to lynch into. Everyone I didn't list is either confirmed town or myself. And kush is probably the vigi. Nope. lol. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Haru wasn't on my lynch because he was actually paying attention and being rational. If kush is actually the vig then holy shit what is he doing. That leaves Vivax, OO, and...you. So let's start: Why did you vote me? Oh, I accidently put haru on the list. I voted you because both you and Sinani were scummy as hell, and I didn't care which I lynched because day 1. Scummy fucks are scummy. Then you cop claimed near the EoD. Didn't smell correct. It was a smelly smell that smelled, SMELLY. Your reads on palmar and vivax made no sense when you originally wanted to lynch between them on day 1. So tell me, why shouldn't I have voted you? See, this is the issue I have. What's wrong with my cop claim? Am I supposed to retroactively go back and make it better somehow? I gave you my role pm, this should be a non-issue for you. And I said I liked their filters. Twice. I even went back and clarified it. Base your reads on things that are actually happening, thanks. Give me one reason to lynch Vivax over you. One. Reason. Why is it that you think I want Vivax specifically? I've been saying almost all game that I thought he was towny. Why is there no mention of OO in this post? Are you trying to protect your scumbuddy? On June 30 2014 09:57 Cavalinho wrote: You're looking into what I'm saying as if there's some sort of hidden code. There isn't one. Saying Vivax is scummy once doesn't mean "he is my preferred lynch for the day and I want him dead asap." You're nitpicking and it's becoming quite annoying. On July 01 2014 13:14 Cavalinho wrote: Actually, Vivax, I want you to answer a couple questions the next time you're back in the thread: 1) Why do you keep thinking I'm scum? 2) Why do you keep characterizing my play? 3) Why is it that you have reasons not to vote me in your filter, in yet you vote me anyway? On July 01 2014 13:26 Cavalinho wrote: ##vote vivax This whole series of posts is a scummy joke. (1) Cav gets all defensive towards rainbows saying he has been townreading me almost all the time, and that AFTER saying I must have been on his wagon D1, but then he proceeds to soft-scumread me AGAIN and asking me those questions. If you look at his reply to rainbows he just looks totally afraid to say that he wants to lynch me, even though he just stated his wagon was scumdriven. (2) Cava calls both rainbows and OO openly scum in a post to rainbows saying Why is there no mention of OO in this post? Are you trying to protect your scumbuddy? But when he talks to OO in that timeline, he fucking posts THIS: On July 01 2014 12:52 Cavalinho wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2014 00:57 Vivax wrote: I've seen it too often. Lazy D1 scum, posts huge post to calm the waters, when it doesn't work he fakeclaims. OO, up until now I've taken your advice on whether or not Vivax was actually a good analyst. His day 1 was pretty good, but his day 2 filter thus far has been nothing more than mediocre. If all he can do is attempt to characterize my play, despite playing with me several times and knowing that this has happened before, then color me unimpressed. On July 01 2014 13:17 Cavalinho wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2014 13:05 ObviousOne wrote: On July 01 2014 12:52 Cavalinho wrote: On July 01 2014 00:57 Vivax wrote: I've seen it too often. Lazy D1 scum, posts huge post to calm the waters, when it doesn't work he fakeclaims. OO, up until now I've taken your advice on whether or not Vivax was actually a good analyst. His day 1 was pretty good, but his day 2 filter thus far has been nothing more than mediocre. If all he can do is attempt to characterize my play, despite playing with me several times and knowing that this has happened before, then color me unimpressed. Yeah I'm disappointed he's not carrying me right now =\ Do you think I should put HaruRH in my town category? I'm trying to give myself some fresh perspective on the game thus far. I've already tried to lay out my plan for today and I don't think Haru is really someone I'm considering because of it. It's a dodgy, roundabout way of townreading him, but I really don't know. I'll probably get back to you at some point. When's the next time you'll be on? Does this look like he is suspecting OO in any way whatsoever? And that after calling him rainbow's scumbuddy? No, he just realized that he wasn't able to push any people on his D1 wagon (and he didn't try at all to push OO) and hence had to switch to Haru, who was the next running lynch candidate in the way even though he wasn't on his wagon during D1 and saved his ass. As to the reasons for why he switched to Haru, see one of my previous posts, they are rather rash for someone believing that his wagon was full of scum. For endgame credz, I say Cava is scum and town doesn't have a cop and he just hit the jackpot cause he had the luck to be so bad at mafia that he was forced to fakeclaim a role town doesn't have. | ||
Vivax
21682 Posts
July 02 2014 23:50 GMT
#1699
On July 03 2014 08:33 kushm4sta wrote: so like did everyone claim? im 1 shot vig I'm France, VT. | ||
kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
July 02 2014 23:52 GMT
#1700
That outweighs all analysis imo. | ||
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