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On June 27 2014 22:21 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 22:14 Koshi wrote: I guess I explain myself better because I don't want to lose you gooby.
This is how I read the Cav post: Cav was town in some game and a mafia buddy from OO made cav look bad. Cav is bitter.
Then OO replies with an insanely difficult sentence that looks fabricated like hell, it's a contradiction milshake: OO starts saying he is town twice in 1 sentence on a different way: "I don't have any partners" and "unless you are town then you are my partner". and ends with "that won't stop someone from coming in to make you look like an asshole again, maybe mafia will oblige and you can nail them for it :D" This is an awkward joke and looks bad because in this sentence OO calls Cav town while in before he didn't have a clue if Cav was his "town partner"
How can OO have no partners when town are his partners? Why does OO add that he isn't sure Cav is his town partner? Why is OO saying Cav should vote people that are mean to him on this heuristic alone? Why does the last part look like a buddying attempt "aka I am not mean to you, don't vote me"
Many questions. My head hurts. ObviousOne not so obvious at all. He mafia. Your read made me laugh out loud. 'contradiction milkshake' =/= scum in my eyes.
So what are your thoughts on who should get lynched? if you have any.
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On June 27 2014 17:25 ObviousOne wrote: Robik can explain that himself. I have an idea of what he might say but it's better to let him explain to better polish my/our read on him.
Kush derping is not necessarily alignment indicative. That's how games typically start on OMGUS anyhow. I already answered this when it was brought up earlier. It kinda holds mafia in place for whatever they claim. The OP says that there is flavor text in PMs, so their flavor PM would have to do with their country. If they are trying to fake claim a blue role, the flavor would kinda have to match the role AND the country.
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On June 27 2014 21:56 Vivax wrote: Sorry bro but I think today I'll try to lynch either you or Palmar.
So you are limiting your d1 lynch to two of the most active people in the game? I don't understand where your certainty is coming from.
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Koshi is weird.
On June 27 2014 21:29 Koshi wrote: Kush is scum and plays lazy Robik is onto him and calls him out Kush pretends to be still lazy while he is waiting for a fake role PM from Holyflare Kush got the fake role PM and wants a fresh start
##vote: Kush
On June 27 2014 21:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 21:31 kushm4sta wrote:On June 27 2014 21:29 Koshi wrote: Kush is scum and plays lazy Robik is onto him and calls him out Kush pretends to be still lazy while he is waiting for a fake role PM from Holyflare Kush got the fake role PM and wants a fresh start
##vote: Kush huh? what does the fake role PM have to do with anything.. it's a role pm not flavor pm. It would make no sense for the fake claims to all have different countries, since countries are irrelevant and that would be obvious gamebreaking. do you think HF is retarded? Ah wait. That makes sense. The countries are irrelevant. Still. I like my my idea. You scum.
Strong scum push on kush, retracts it, goes onto OO and then
On June 27 2014 22:40 Koshi wrote: Note to self. I am so scummy that both OO and Vivax want to lynch me when 4 people haven't posted anything of worth. Impressive work Koshi.
condescends his way out of a push on him. nope.
##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi
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Can anyone who has experience with haru comment on that case?
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Think a good heuristic for this game is to learn from TL Order which went spectacularly horribly. In terms of Kush, Kush is now confirmed mafia in Order and I've spent a decent time reading his filter in that game. If kush is mafia, he will hopefully show some of the same signals.
Koshi looks like mafia so far.
On June 27 2014 17:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 17:11 Vivax wrote: Some lemon juice and 2 spoons of sugar should do, Alfred.
Opinions on Robik's obsession with claims? Do you think it has the potential to give any benefit to either of the two factions? Is mderg too lurky for his usual standard? (Oh hey, a new post, keep it up/ninjad) Is kush derping indicative or not?
@ OO
When i was mafia and didn't read my role pm I still tried to figure out things the standard way in the beginning which still isn't the feeling I get from kush. Who is this Alfred guy? Are you losing your mind Detective Vivax? It's me constable Koshi. It's ok, don't worry, use all your remaining brain cells to focus on catching the bad guys. Robik is Robik. We lynch him if he doesn't perform. I am going to ignore his early game and see if he keeps it up in the later stages. I am reading his posts to see if anything really good is in it though. There hasn't been. mderg dnu. He is pretty lurk always. I think meta will have to be used later the day. I would encourage Mderg to post more. Less than 1 page are extra mafia points. Kush derped early game in normal ass mafia. Really thought he was scum there. But he wasn't. We shall have to watch him. Closely.
Vivax asks him for his reads on these three players, Koshi basically responds "we have to watch them". Vivax asked specifcally about the claiming country stuff robik did but doesn't comment on it just said there hasn't been any good things robik has said. I feel like town would come up with some conclusion based on either robik or kush at least.
Then Palmar makes case on vivax. koshi thoughts on case inc
On June 27 2014 19:10 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 19:02 Vivax wrote: Koshi, you should chime in.
Why are Palmar's arguments good? Because they are true. You had many questions and as he pointed out you didn't have as much opinions. Is it scummy? Possibly. I don't like how you went all angry and stuff. Just accept the case and move on. It wasn't a bad case. You should have told him off and went on hunting them scummers. At least I would have liked you to do that. Is Palmar scummy? Not to me for this case, not at all. Only if he focussed you out while somebody else was doing the same thing. But even then. Palmar not scummy.
Doesn't come to a conclusion on vivax's actions. Does consider palmar 'not scummy', but only not scummy 'not for this case'. feels like wiggle room to call Palmar mafia in the future if it benefits him.
But this is more interesting imo:
On June 27 2014 18:28 Koshi wrote: WoW. I bring Vivax a cold glass of water and instead of being all cool and smart he is angry and ignores me.
Vivax. It doesn't matter what this evul Plammer is saying to you. We can find the mafia. Ignore the Plammer. He is bad. Or he is mafia. Right? RIGHT?
On June 27 2014 18:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 18:10 Vivax wrote: Please don't be scum Koshi, it would be heartbreaking.
There is no dishonor in claiming scum to fight against the tyranny of hosts making us enemies in eternity.
If you aren't, we shall debate about the current subjects of interest. Even if you are it would be appreciated.
But let's await the wicked Icelander's deeds and postpone judgment in favour of insight. I am not scum. I wouldn't lie to you Detective Vivax. I am seeing this case on you, it's not bad, not bad at all. Is he a wannebe Vivax or an evul minion of Moriarty?
I'm confused. AT one point the case on Vivax is "not bad, not bad at all"
8 minutes later it is "Plammer is bad, or mafia". Seems like a drastic change of opinion. When vivax asks about Koshi's opinion on the case (quoted earlier), Koshi replies that the arguments are good 'because they are true'.
What does Koshi think? I can't tell. A lot of scatter opinions on the same topic of Palmar case. Reads scummy because, as town, he would know exactly how he thinks. As scum he tailors his opinion to the town. He also feels like he is buddying up to vivax in a lot of his posts which i only do if I have a hard townread on that person, but Koshi doesn't appear to have a super townread on Vivax, so why the buddying?
If that looks confusing I just woke up. Main point is that Koshi changes his opinion on Palmar case, goes from --> Case is not bad --> Palmar is bad, or mafia --> arguments are good because true, it wasn't a bad case. He also sidesteps a read on robik and buddys vivax.
##Vote: Koshi
evul koshi maf
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On June 27 2014 23:15 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 21:56 Vivax wrote: Sorry bro but I think today I'll try to lynch either you or Palmar. So you are limiting your d1 lynch to two of the most active people in the game? I don't understand where your certainty is coming from.
Nah, don't think I'll limit myself. On second thought I should keep an eye out for other people but Palmar and Koshi are definitely where I'll be looking at.
I'd like to see this OO/Koshi dispute develop and get more opinions from less active players on the recent stuff. Apparently this is a high activity game.
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On June 27 2014 23:25 HaruRH wrote:Koshi is weird. Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 21:29 Koshi wrote: Kush is scum and plays lazy Robik is onto him and calls him out Kush pretends to be still lazy while he is waiting for a fake role PM from Holyflare Kush got the fake role PM and wants a fresh start
##vote: Kush Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 21:34 Koshi wrote:On June 27 2014 21:31 kushm4sta wrote:On June 27 2014 21:29 Koshi wrote: Kush is scum and plays lazy Robik is onto him and calls him out Kush pretends to be still lazy while he is waiting for a fake role PM from Holyflare Kush got the fake role PM and wants a fresh start
##vote: Kush huh? what does the fake role PM have to do with anything.. it's a role pm not flavor pm. It would make no sense for the fake claims to all have different countries, since countries are irrelevant and that would be obvious gamebreaking. do you think HF is retarded? Ah wait. That makes sense. The countries are irrelevant. Still. I like my my idea. You scum. Strong scum push on kush, retracts it, goes onto OO and then Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 22:40 Koshi wrote: Note to self. I am so scummy that both OO and Vivax want to lynch me when 4 people haven't posted anything of worth. Impressive work Koshi. condescends his way out of a push on him. nope. ##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi
Didn't see this while I was typing. Why is strong scum push on kush then going onto OO scum indicative? Koshi scum but not for that reason.
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Also Robik starting the game pretty aggro and I don't like it.
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On June 27 2014 21:30 kushm4sta wrote:on not reading your role pm: + Show Spoiler +and yeah i agree not reading your role pm is lame. however i think there shoudl be a built in rule that makes you confirm you read it. because if how you deal with the issue is plynch, then someone can just not read it and not say anything about it.
Thing is, go for it. I don't care if you do that. It's dumb.
However, then you can't whine if people mistakenly think you're scummy.
claiming to have not read the role pm = playing for mafia benefit.
I'm not caught up. If you haven't already, go check your role pm and acknowledge you have read it, or we're policy lynching you.
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wtf haru's filter link goes to vivax -.-
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Palmar l2 read. This is the third time I stated that I did read my role pm. I'm Uruguay
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Rainbows, is it that you don't like my playstyle atm, or is it that you actually think I would play a completely mad style as scum?
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A reminder to not talk about ongoing games even if the person has flipped in it.
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On June 27 2014 23:42 Palmar wrote: ##vote Koshi
Wow so scum very scum.
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On June 27 2014 23:43 Koshi wrote: Rainbows, is it that you don't like my playstyle atm, or is it that you actually think I would play a completely mad style as scum?
I don't understand the question. I don't like how your read changed on the Palmar case, and I don't like the buddying with Vivax because you apparently don't have a good townread on him.
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On June 27 2014 23:44 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 23:43 Koshi wrote: Rainbows, is it that you don't like my playstyle atm, or is it that you actually think I would play a completely mad style as scum? I don't understand the question. I don't like how your read changed on the Palmar case, and I don't like the buddying with Vivax because you apparently don't have a good townread on him. Do you want me to explain things or are we cool for the moment?
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