EPTI can't speak for the guy but as for that statement , its true.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/
Yea lol cnn. But it was literally 40 sec googling.
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NIJ
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I can't speak for the guy but as for that statement , its true. http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/ Yea lol cnn. But it was literally 40 sec googling. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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Yurie
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GhostKorean
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
On June 22 2014 08:13 IgnE wrote: i'm sorry but losing weight eating only twinkies does not prove that all calories are created equal. It helps to prove that if you control your intake you control your weight and that faddy diets mean relatively fuck all. Also isn't most restaurant food laden with fat and sugar? | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On June 22 2014 10:25 GhostKorean wrote: All calories are equal (It's a unit of energy) but there are many more factors to health than calories. Oh it's a unit of energy????? That clears everything up then. I'm glad you brought up the various metabolic pathways by which differet calories are digested and made available to the body. The discussion of the role of AMP-K and mtor, insulin, ghrelin, IGF1, GH, somatostatin, and other extracellular signals has been elucidating. But at least we all know that if you only eat a couple twinkies every day you will lose fat and muscle mass so calories must be calories right? | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
On June 22 2014 11:41 hacklebeast wrote: According to that map there are anywhere from 3-5 times as many obese female South Africans (40-50%) compared to male South Africans (10-15%). That's very interesting if true, but kind of leads me to doubt those numbers. Women being fatter than men is mainly a thing in developing countries. In South Africa in particular big women are sex symbols and associated with status and wealth, while skinny women are often associated with HIV. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On June 22 2014 15:00 IgnE wrote: Oh it's a unit of energy????? That clears everything up then. I'm glad you brought up the various metabolic pathways by which differet calories are digested and made available to the body. The discussion of the role of AMP-K and mtor, insulin, ghrelin, IGF1, GH, somatostatin, and other extracellular signals has been elucidating. But at least we all know that if you only eat a couple twinkies every day you will lose fat and muscle mass so calories must be calories right? I'm not promoting no poptart diet but i stand by my point that all calories are equal just as all kilograms and metres are equal. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5268 Posts
On June 22 2014 18:46 ShadeR wrote: I'm not promoting no poptart diet but i stand by my point that all calories are equal just as all kilograms and metres are equal. you should make a distinction though: the amount of calories that can be extracted from the same quality/quantity of food, differs from body to body (based on internal mechanism/genetics/or what-ever-differences you have there). | ||
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GreyBrid
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
And please stop with the braindead calorie is equal bullshit. It's way too simplified. A healthy meal leaves you way more satisfied then mcdonalds. | ||
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
On June 22 2014 20:19 xM(Z wrote: you should make a distinction though: the amount of calories that can be extracted from the same quality/quantity of food, differs from body to body (based on internal mechanism/genetics/or what-ever-differences you have there). Different foods have different effects on a persons feeling of satiety and in turn makes them consume more or less foods. Biochemistry is interesting and fun but more academic than useful if this context. I mean the eat less and do more mantra is hardly a new thing. But lets not start over emphasising genetics. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On May 29 2014 21:58 Silvanel wrote: Not to dismiss problem (because its really serious) but BMI is a joke. I have BMI of 24,8 and everyone says i am skinny. One can be 25<BMI<30 pretty easily and be super healthy and not overweight at all. BMI is not a joke, it's just a rule of thumb that does work on average. I'm pretty sure there is a good reason why it doesn't work for you. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On June 22 2014 15:32 urboss wrote: Women being fatter than men is mainly a thing in developing countries. In South Africa in particular big women are sex symbols and associated with status and wealth, while skinny women are often associated with HIV. I'm not an expert on the subject but I've read numerous times women do have a genetical predisposition to more fat. A quick google search game me this There are many reasons why women have more body fat than men. One is biological. Body fat content is 25% for women at normal size compared to 15% for men. All other things being equal, such as age and exercise levels, women require fewer calories per pound of body weight daily than do men. Female hormones make it easier to convert fat into food. Women more often do the cooking in the households. Finally, in fat-prone women, birth control pills cause the body to produce increased amounts of fat and water. Estrogen alone will cause increased deposition of fat. Anyone on the pill needs to decrease caloric intake by at least 10% in order to maintain the same weight. http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=8519 But that clearly does not explain the huge gap in SA. | ||
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keit
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On June 22 2014 20:37 crappen wrote: And please stop with the braindead calorie is equal bullshit. It's way too simplified. A healthy meal leaves you way more satisfied then mcdonalds. That is not the point though. If you eat 2000 kcal of McDonalds versus 2000 kcal of 'healthy meals' you will have consumed the same amount of calories. I see what you are saying, that people who ate those 2000kcal of McDonalds will probably snack during the day since they are not feeling satisfied, compared to the healthy food group who are feeling satisfied by the 2000kcal they already ate. This doesn't mean that you can call it "braindead calorie is equal bullshit" though, since if you follow the daily calorie intake that you had planned, eating 2000kcal McD or 2000kcal 'healthy meals' will make no difference in calories consumed. | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
For normal sized persons, men have a slightly higher BMI than women. However, overweight women tend to have a higher BMI than overweight men. Source: http://halls.md/bmi/gap.htm Anyway, what is important in this context is the comparison between men and women in different countries. And there are definite differences. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On June 22 2014 22:03 keit wrote: That is not the point though. If you eat 2000 kcal of McDonalds versus 2000 kcal of 'healthy meals' you will have consumed the same amount of calories. I see what you are saying, that people who ate those 2000kcal of McDonalds will probably snack during the day since they are not feeling satisfied, compared to the healthy food group who are feeling satisfied by the 2000kcal they already ate. This doesn't mean that you can call it "braindead calorie is equal bullshit" though, since if you follow the daily calorie intake that you had planned, eating 2000kcal McD or 2000kcal 'healthy meals' will make no difference in calories consumed. You say you see what he is saying and then attempt to reiterate nonsense. Those calories are not comparable. That is the end of it. Maybe the people who eat that eat other stuff maybe they dont. When i eat that stuff i dont eat anythign else for ages because i feel like shit and cant eat anything until i do have a shit. You are attempting to edge into an argument that is factual with a generalisation of a counter case that attempts to equate 2 things that are obviously not equal. The purpose of calorie diets is NOT the amount of calories you eat - unless you are stupid enough to replace the kpi that you are using to indicate a measurement with an absolute requirement. In which case there is no hope for you. Its like saying rotten meat is bat for you threfor all meat is bad. Don't mistake the abstraction for what it is. | ||
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