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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
On May 22 2014 01:29 Hot_Bid wrote: why is this game so ahrd The worst part is the more you play and better you get, the harder you realize it is. People don't realize how big the gap is between them and top players until they are already pretty good players. On top of taking 1-2 years to learn to control your character, you actually have to learn to play the game after that haha | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On May 21 2014 14:44 Kyuukyuu wrote: no such thing as accurate pm tier list CT's list is laughed at as hilariously bad by the DFW PM scene. But yeah, PM tier lists are all bad. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4257 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule18913 Posts
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BlackPride
United States186 Posts
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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
On May 22 2014 04:13 BlackPride wrote: what are sheik's worst matchups? I'd say in descending order, Fox, ICs, Falco/Jiggs Peach if you are playing PAL. But in NTSC, Fox is the main one Sheiks hate, and ICs are also quite hard to play against because you have to play so patient and camp platforms for days. | ||
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BlackPride
United States186 Posts
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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
PAL - Puff, Peach then Fox It really depends how good you are. Most of the sheiks i know REALLY struggled against falcos until you get a lot better at the game and learn how to handle the neutral game (because a default flowchart basically shuts down your entire spacing/baiting which is basically the main sheik "approach") That and punish game on falco is probably the most difficult due to obnoxious tech rolls and how badly you get punished for missing | ||
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BlackPride
United States186 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On May 22 2014 22:43 BlackPride wrote: Hmmmm....so yeah I'm losing to sheiks distinctly below my skill level (maining samus rn) and I already play a lot of falco/puff anyways so I think I'll try that. Watching hungrybox just REK sheiks gives me hope. Eh, even though Samus vs Sheik is ~really hard~, I'd recommend sticking with Samus and figuring out what you're doing wrong vs Sheik. At a low/intermediate level I think picking up a secondary to play bad matchups won't help you improve as a player. Basically, work on spacing and not getting grabbed. | ||
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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
On May 23 2014 00:05 ]343[ wrote: Eh, even though Samus vs Sheik is ~really hard~, I'd recommend sticking with Samus and figuring out what you're doing wrong vs Sheik. At a low/intermediate level I think picking up a secondary to play bad matchups won't help you improve as a player. Basically, work on spacing and not getting grabbed. Gotta agree with this. I play Falcon and I've been getting boned by Sheiks for years. But finally I'm pretty good at the matchup and it's helped my game a ton. | ||
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Jank
United States308 Posts
Also be careful crossing up her shield as she can jump out nair super quickly, try to never land near her if you can help it. Edge guarding her is weird until you realize you can just take ledge and rest her when she lands on stage. Also don't be afraid to jump out of shield and rest forward smash (yes I know it's a bad move but sheik's finger flub too sometimes ;p). Basically just learn which options of hers to respect and which to rest ;P | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6753 Posts
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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
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Spazer
Canada8028 Posts
Luigi op | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6753 Posts
On May 23 2014 06:33 ShrieK wrote: It happens when you fall off the platform backward and have your shield up. If you let go of your shield sooner it won't happen. Ahh I see. Thanks! | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36362 Posts
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Yomi-no-Kuni
Germany333 Posts
Until then, grinding it is! But you should be able to get the hang of it after a while  While you're practicing, you can change the angle you hold the controlstick in. While you need to hold almost horizontally to do one with perfect lenght, it is much easier and less frustrating, if you hold it down a little. It won't change the timing, but it'll be more forgiving and still very useful if you miss the perfect window. The ultimate goal should be perfect wavelanding though. Amsa style. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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