EPTOn February 23 2014 05:13 gumshoe wrote:
Awe it's over, I was having fun ) :
Awe it's over, I was having fun ) :
I'm glad 1 person had fun at least!
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IAmRobik
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I'm glad 1 person had fun at least! | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
they just have to be correct tone reads | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 23 2014 06:23 marvellosity wrote: nothing wrong with tone reads they just have to be correct tone reads That's the tricky part! | ||
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IAmRobik
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Mordanis
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
IAR, there is no pride in this win. We were going to forfeit. As a townie u did half ur half - to look town. But u tried to be a leader, and then failed to lead. Better luck next time | ||
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IAmRobik
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Balla24
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Mordanis
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Vivax
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Should have noticed muuch earlier. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
As said in obs Normally IML games have like a longish D1 (48+ hours, 72 max) and then usually really short days afterwards as town hammers people who are scum or scummy. In GSL III, D1 was 72 hours (VT Lynch), D2 was 24 hours (Scum Lynched), and the final scum was set to be lynched quickly during D3 and surrendered during the night. In British Empire II, D1 was 30 hours (Scum Lynch), D2 was 18 hours (Town lynched), D3 was 18 hours (Scum Lynched, town wins). Basically, a decisive town takes its time when it needs to and lynches scum whenever they're sure, sometimes very quickly. The ability to quickly remove players like mattchew who are either scum or lurkey town and quickly continue without losing momentum is very important. this town doesn't understand that. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Was hoping sidesprang would come back, I think I could have town read him if he was active. I'm assuming this is mocsta NOT THAT I CARE OR ANYTHING Don't worry, I lied when I said I wasn't going to put effort into this game. I'm going to check some other games to gauge some playstyles. For starters, I'm going to look at sidesprang. Mattchew is pretty null, and if anyone has any of his old games that contrast or relate to this game, I would appreciate that. I read Round's post: + Show Spoiler + On February 13 2014 08:33 roundabound wrote: The points he asks about are valid and certainly amongst the most interesting things in thread. Let's talk about Mattchew: This is what you say about him: Here's what Mattchew has done in his last couple of scumgames at his first posts: TL Mafia LVII; + Show Spoiler + On September 04 2012 09:12 Mattchew wrote: I am a nosy neighbor. Anyone else with this role should insta-claim as well. The reason people policy lynch people like BM and Grush is because they get by into later in the game because they are unreadable. This is because they barely actually play the game and if you end up in lylo with one of them left, you've basically already lost. I completely understand anyone wanting to policy lynch them, but we should also not allow them to be off the hook for some sort of scum read during the day. That being said, I remember thinking to myself that I don't hate BM's play in the last few games I have been in with him. I do not want to policy lynch today. fakeclaimed. I Cant Believe its not Themed Mini Mafia: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2012 22:43 Mattchew wrote: he is trying really really hard, and once again he is explaining his entire thought process. I dont think i have ever seen him as scum, but this is the exactly how he plays as town First he talks about gonzaw and in his ~4th post is calling him town. I also checked a couple of his towngames and he does not call anyone town (or scum for whatever reasons) early on. So he is perfectly capable of opening up a game like he did as mafia and your meta read is not accurate, because it does not really line up with any of his games, scum or town. If you want to argue about this bring some evidence from some other games and show people why your read on him is what it is. Anyone can call anyone town because it's the easiest thing for mafia to do, especially if the other person is town because you know they are town so you are not lying and not "making stuff up". You have absolutely no reasons to call Mattchew (or anyone) town at this point of the game unless you bring up proper evidence to back your read up. ~rayn -but I'm not sure if these are alignment comparisons Per Se. They are just pointing out mattchews potential. I don't think he should be our lynch today. Game Comparison: sidesprang I'm going to take sidesprang's last two games of differing alignment and see if I can grasp his playstyle. All I really know is most games he was relatively quieter and knew his way around a blue role. Newbie LI: sidesprang -Thoroughly responds when asked about something. Anytime someone questions one of his posts he gives pretty detailed responses on what his process was. He doesn't seem to like being misunderstood for good reason. Not much left unturned, and this is pretty apparent this entire game. Naturally, he was not lynched this game, and I think he comes off as mostly transparent. Any post that doesn't go into detail is fairly concise and straightforward. The biggest thing to take from here is how much SS questions his own reads. There is a difference between being wishy washy and trying to look at both perspectives and getting null results. He always attempts to generate some type of read, which is what I took out of this filter as opposed to his next one. Shadow Reboot: sidesprang The only caveat I found here was how unwilling SS was in pushing townies as lynch candidates. He got bullied around and his votes only landed on teammates. Although I did mention how SS gets both perspectives as town, he really falls short in explaining where his null reads come from. SS always had at least some reason to what made his read neutral. SS had no issue with throwing neutral reads on players. He really had to backtrack on this statement I like that rule early on in the game. I would have commended on SS on following that school of thought. He caved later on in the game though. Eek, that really doesn't happen that long after the first post I mentioned. The only thing that happened between the two was people applying pressure to him. He ends up giving null reads, a town read on a townie and scum read on a buddy. I think the pressure got to him, this play was quite counter-intuitive. And I didn't even get to what SS had said this game. Pretty disheartening. Back to lurking. | ||
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Balla24
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Surprised you guys weren't going to shoot robnik. After SS and mattchew died, my scum list was Gumshoe, Round and JJD. Shooting may have made me move to Vivax over Mord, but I would have prioritized the others. I was not going to be lynched this game, sorry gumshoe  | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
I didn't think I was getting lynched next cycle but meh. I think u were lynchable so meh. I'm happy the game is over and the scum claim did what I intended it to do. Balance is restored. Ciao | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On February 23 2014 09:48 bumatlarge wrote: Whatcha gonna do? Surprised you guys weren't going to shoot robnik. After SS and mattchew died, my scum list was Gumshoe, Round and JJD. Shooting may have made me move to Vivax over Mord, but I would have prioritized the others. I was not going to be lynched this game, sorry gumshoe Will never know now will we? | ||
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IAmRobik
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
Interesting how you already bussed durig the night tho | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
Just one little criticism though: terrible hosting, hosts were inappropriately intrusive, and the modkill that ended a winnable game was completely uncalled for and unexpected. terrible setup also. there's iml which is bad already then there was this. bh's spin on iml that somehow makes it even worse than it was originally. Thanks again to hosts and players GG all! | ||
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Grackaroni
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