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On December 21 2013 04:35 Lord Tolkien wrote: Ok, that was good Aphrolift play. Thresh flay to cancel Leona E followed by Death Sentence on Lucian. Aphromoo has been performing far better than I thought he would. For once CLG forcing a player off his main role has resulted in POTENTIAL.
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On December 21 2013 04:36 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:34 Lylat wrote:On December 21 2013 04:31 wei2coolman wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything 3 man stacking in botlane bush is pretty fucking cheezy. I don't know if I'll bother reading your posts anymore, you're either a troll or just an incredibly annoying NA fanboy lol I would have called it cheesy if CLG did it. And coming from you one would have taken it serious, but not from Wei2coolman.
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On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ? I don't get why you're being so obtuse. It's high risk, medium reward. the only reason i say ATN gets away with this kind of shenanigans, is cuz Nien isn't actually good enough to abuse the fact that kevin was gone for like 20 seconds.
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On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ?
Well this is pretty difficult to argue about in my opinion. Cheese doesn't always have to be completely all-in in my opinion. It can also be a "coin-flippy" tactic with a high risk/ high reward or something like that, you know what I mean? The definition of cheese doesn't seem to be set in stone.
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On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ?
A jungler waiting in bot brush to get an early kill and sacrificing a buff camp leash and time in the jungle (possibly buffs) potentially loses a lot of map and lane control to the other team, so it's a hyper high risk/high reward play that counts on the other team not knowing what's going on.
So cheese.
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On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ?
If you want it to match SC2 or BW exactly then there's no such thing as cheese in LoL, except for maybe 5 man mid at the start of the game.
I think it's possible to understand that people here are saying cheese is equivalent to a gimmicky early strategy designed to put you ahead early. Surely you can comprehend that.
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On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ? Damn that horse is high
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On December 21 2013 04:38 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ? A jungler waiting in bot brush to get an early kill and sacrificing a buff camp leash and time in the jungle (possibly buffs) potentially loses a lot of map and lane control to the other team, so it's a hyper high risk/high reward play that counts on the other team not knowing what's going on. So cheese. Too bad Mundo is top hue.
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On December 21 2013 04:38 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ? Damn that horse is high Only in france my friend, only in france.
The second aphro got killed, Nien should have already shoved that lane into turret, and try and deny xp. :/ oh well, good match still.
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On December 21 2013 04:37 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:35 Lord Tolkien wrote: Ok, that was good Aphrolift play. Thresh flay to cancel Leona E followed by Death Sentence on Lucian. Aphromoo has been performing far better than I thought he would. For once CLG forcing a player off his main role has resulted in POTENTIAL. Second time's the charm.
Also, not sure why Link isn't playing Syndra.
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On December 21 2013 04:38 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:38 AsmodeusXI wrote:On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ? A jungler waiting in bot brush to get an early kill and sacrificing a buff camp leash and time in the jungle (possibly buffs) potentially loses a lot of map and lane control to the other team, so it's a hyper high risk/high reward play that counts on the other team not knowing what's going on. So cheese. Too bad Mundo is top hue.
OKAY THEN FARM, W/E
Actually that could arguably be worse if the top laner gets a huge EXP/farm lead that allows him to win the lane.
Edit: On second thought, I'd still rather have the top laner than the jungler do that play.
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All these pauses >.<, EU why you bring your internet problems here?
On December 21 2013 04:40 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:38 onlywonderboy wrote:On December 21 2013 04:38 AsmodeusXI wrote:On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ? A jungler waiting in bot brush to get an early kill and sacrificing a buff camp leash and time in the jungle (possibly buffs) potentially loses a lot of map and lane control to the other team, so it's a hyper high risk/high reward play that counts on the other team not knowing what's going on. So cheese. Too bad Mundo is top hue. OKAY THEN FARM, W/E Actually that could arguably be worse if the top laner gets a huge EXP/farm lead that allows him to win the lane.
That's why I said, if Nien was good, that move would have been infinitely more risky. But, he's not.
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Looks like Alternate brought the EU servers with them.
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On December 21 2013 04:40 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:38 onlywonderboy wrote:On December 21 2013 04:38 AsmodeusXI wrote:On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ? A jungler waiting in bot brush to get an early kill and sacrificing a buff camp leash and time in the jungle (possibly buffs) potentially loses a lot of map and lane control to the other team, so it's a hyper high risk/high reward play that counts on the other team not knowing what's going on. So cheese. Too bad Mundo is top hue. OKAY THEN FARM, W/E Actually that could arguably be worse if the top laner gets a huge EXP/farm lead that allows him to win the lane. To be fair kev1n had TP anyway but still nien was up to 9 cs by the time kev1n TP'd so it could be argued that nien could snowball the XP advantage if kev1n didn't get the FB XP.
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On December 21 2013 04:37 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:35 Lord Tolkien wrote: Ok, that was good Aphrolift play. Thresh flay to cancel Leona E followed by Death Sentence on Lucian. Aphromoo has been performing far better than I thought he would. For once CLG forcing a player off his main role has resulted in POTENTIAL.
People seem to forget that Chauster was the ADC for CLG prior to Doublelift, and while Doublelift played ADC he was mainly known for being a support prior to joining CLG...
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they just simulate eu servers, would be unfair for Eu teams to play on working servers, they dont know how to deal woth that.
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Who was the jungler for CLG before that? It was Trick2something right? Or TrickZ...?
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Nien already falling behind.
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On December 21 2013 04:40 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 04:38 onlywonderboy wrote:On December 21 2013 04:38 AsmodeusXI wrote:On December 21 2013 04:35 Lylat wrote:On December 21 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:On December 21 2013 04:30 Lylat wrote: "Cheese" in LoL... I've read everything You should have been around for S2 Worlds when CLG was praising all their cheese for weeks. It was... interesting. Although I'd say waiting with 3 people in the brush is pretty cheesy. It has a lot of the usual cheese characteristics like being very gimmicky/coin-flippy Waiting in a bush is cheesy ? So it means that if you don't successfully win the game with this move you'll lose the game ? Or does cheese have another meaning in LoL that I don't know of ? A jungler waiting in bot brush to get an early kill and sacrificing a buff camp leash and time in the jungle (possibly buffs) potentially loses a lot of map and lane control to the other team, so it's a hyper high risk/high reward play that counts on the other team not knowing what's going on. So cheese. Too bad Mundo is top hue. OKAY THEN FARM, W/E Actually that could arguably be worse if the top laner gets a huge EXP/farm lead that allows him to win the lane. Edit: On second thought, I'd still rather have the top laner than the jungler do that play.
Remember he was running TP, so all he lost was 1-2 melee minions, and the ability to back for free for the first few minutes of the game.
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