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Hmm, there are three things I dont like about the claim.
1. He did not leave any breadcrumbs for like the first idk 30 hours of this day, and also they were very weak. The breadcrum on Vayne I buy tho. Would be a very nice breadcrumb.
2. Why did you claim? We were gonna lynch Xata = confirmed scum, and Xata tried to "talk" to the SK and told him that Scum were gonna lynch SK (aka plutarch). So if you kept quiet, we would have lynchd xata, and woken up to only 1 kill from SK tomorrow, no mafia kills and an alive Plutarch. Your case against plutarch tomorrow would have been foolproof, no way he could have defended himself against that if you claimed tomorrow.
3. There was no way you were gonna die this night. So you could have gotten one more safe check without problems.
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On December 15 2013 05:53 Grackaroni wrote: wtf is this. I'm not voting purp.
On December 15 2013 05:56 Grackaroni wrote: what a dumb day lol
Gracks reaction to lynching scum day two.
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On December 18 2013 03:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: I remember "i won't be voting for purp" comment a bit before lynch. Because it was a stupid lynch! I don't give a shit what alignment he flipped in retrospect. We lynched somebody purely for being bad and got lucky.
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On December 18 2013 03:19 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:53 Grackaroni wrote: wtf is this. I'm not voting purp. Gracks reaction to lynching scum day two. I didn't want to lynch either. Thus I didn't vote either.
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Like that just confirms me more than anything else. Why would I act like that as scum. I could have lynched Vayne. I was annoyed with the lynch candidates so I did nothing.
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On December 18 2013 03:21 Grackaroni wrote: Like that just confirms me more than anything else. Why would I act like that as scum. I could have lynched Vayne. I was annoyed with the lynch candidates so I did nothing.
You couldn't have lynched vayne. Also it was a last minute switch and you didn't have time to coordinate with your buddies did you babe?
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On December 18 2013 03:17 sidesprang wrote: Hmm, there are three things I dont like about the claim.
1. He did not leave any breadcrumbs for like the first idk 30 hours of this day, and also they were very weak. The breadcrum on Vayne I buy tho. Would be a very nice breadcrumb.
2. Why did you claim? We were gonna lynch Xata = confirmed scum, and Xata tried to "talk" to the SK and told him that Scum were gonna lynch SK (aka plutarch). So if you kept quiet, we would have lynchd xata, and woken up to only 1 kill from SK tomorrow, no mafia kills and an alive Plutarch. Your case against plutarch tomorrow would have been foolproof, no way he could have defended himself against that if you claimed tomorrow.
3. There was no way you were gonna die this night. So you could have gotten one more safe check without problems.
You're right about the last 2. My claim was stupid. Breadcrumbs are fine. All breadcrumbs really need to do is make your checks clear. Leaving more than that is just asking for trouble.
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On December 18 2013 03:21 Grackaroni wrote: Like that just confirms me more than anything else. Why would I act like that as scum. I could have lynched Vayne. I was annoyed with the lynch candidates so I did nothing.
Also you are resorting to wifom, tool of those who can't actually argue their position
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hell i don't know, I guess I couldn't have lynched Vayne because I wrote that comment. I would not ever leave that town tell on Vayne comment in there if I wasn't cop. I have never left any comment like that in any other game of mine.
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On December 18 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:17 sidesprang wrote: Hmm, there are three things I dont like about the claim.
1. He did not leave any breadcrumbs for like the first idk 30 hours of this day, and also they were very weak. The breadcrum on Vayne I buy tho. Would be a very nice breadcrumb.
2. Why did you claim? We were gonna lynch Xata = confirmed scum, and Xata tried to "talk" to the SK and told him that Scum were gonna lynch SK (aka plutarch). So if you kept quiet, we would have lynchd xata, and woken up to only 1 kill from SK tomorrow, no mafia kills and an alive Plutarch. Your case against plutarch tomorrow would have been foolproof, no way he could have defended himself against that if you claimed tomorrow.
3. There was no way you were gonna die this night. So you could have gotten one more safe check without problems.
You're right about the last 2. My claim was stupid. Breadcrumbs are fine. All breadcrumbs really need to do is make your checks clear. Leaving more than that is just asking for trouble.
No breadcrumbs are there so that when you claim your claim is iron clad.
A good breadcrumb will crumb your role (which you didn't do)
Crumb your checks before the day posts (which you didn't do)
and the results after it. (which you didn't do)
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On December 18 2013 02:20 Plutarch wrote: You all got caught. you are trying some power play or something. there is no way when it comes down to your word against mine are we lynching me first. So as I said. We lynch Xatalos first. Then we lynch you tomorrow and prove you are the liar that you are. Gee, I wonder why you want to lynch Xat and not Grack first.
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Also which cop in their right mind would check me night two after the purple lynch? I should be one of the last checks you would make as cop after that wagon went down.
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On December 18 2013 03:27 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:17 sidesprang wrote: Hmm, there are three things I dont like about the claim.
1. He did not leave any breadcrumbs for like the first idk 30 hours of this day, and also they were very weak. The breadcrum on Vayne I buy tho. Would be a very nice breadcrumb.
2. Why did you claim? We were gonna lynch Xata = confirmed scum, and Xata tried to "talk" to the SK and told him that Scum were gonna lynch SK (aka plutarch). So if you kept quiet, we would have lynchd xata, and woken up to only 1 kill from SK tomorrow, no mafia kills and an alive Plutarch. Your case against plutarch tomorrow would have been foolproof, no way he could have defended himself against that if you claimed tomorrow.
3. There was no way you were gonna die this night. So you could have gotten one more safe check without problems.
You're right about the last 2. My claim was stupid. Breadcrumbs are fine. All breadcrumbs really need to do is make your checks clear. Leaving more than that is just asking for trouble. No breadcrumbs are there so that when you claim your claim is iron clad. A good breadcrumb will crumb your role (which you didn't do) Crumb your checks before the day posts (which you didn't do) and the results after it. (which you didn't do) Well we just have different opinions on this. I don't feel like I need to make myself obvious as cop to outargue scum. If you want to use that against me that is your prerogative
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On December 18 2013 03:29 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 02:20 Plutarch wrote: You all got caught. you are trying some power play or something. there is no way when it comes down to your word against mine are we lynching me first. So as I said. We lynch Xatalos first. Then we lynch you tomorrow and prove you are the liar that you are. Gee, I wonder why you want to lynch Xat and not Grack first.
Because he claimed scum and Is the consensus lynch you plebeian.
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On December 18 2013 03:29 Plutarch wrote: Also which cop in their right mind would check me night two after the purple lynch? I should be one of the last checks you would make as cop after that wagon went down. There was absolutely no way that lynch was pushed by town. There was no reasoning for lynching Purple. I think that is becoming more and more clear from the flips so far this game. I thought about checking Xata and checked you instead. You weren't scum though you were SK.
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On December 18 2013 03:29 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:27 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:17 sidesprang wrote: Hmm, there are three things I dont like about the claim.
1. He did not leave any breadcrumbs for like the first idk 30 hours of this day, and also they were very weak. The breadcrum on Vayne I buy tho. Would be a very nice breadcrumb.
2. Why did you claim? We were gonna lynch Xata = confirmed scum, and Xata tried to "talk" to the SK and told him that Scum were gonna lynch SK (aka plutarch). So if you kept quiet, we would have lynchd xata, and woken up to only 1 kill from SK tomorrow, no mafia kills and an alive Plutarch. Your case against plutarch tomorrow would have been foolproof, no way he could have defended himself against that if you claimed tomorrow.
3. There was no way you were gonna die this night. So you could have gotten one more safe check without problems.
You're right about the last 2. My claim was stupid. Breadcrumbs are fine. All breadcrumbs really need to do is make your checks clear. Leaving more than that is just asking for trouble. No breadcrumbs are there so that when you claim your claim is iron clad. A good breadcrumb will crumb your role (which you didn't do) Crumb your checks before the day posts (which you didn't do) and the results after it. (which you didn't do) Well we just have different opinions on this. I don't feel like I need to make myself obvious as cop to outargue scum. If you want to use that against me that is your prerogative
Crumbs don't need to be obvious. They just need to exist in a way which cannot be faked. all yours were easily faked.
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On December 18 2013 03:31 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:29 Plutarch wrote: Also which cop in their right mind would check me night two after the purple lynch? I should be one of the last checks you would make as cop after that wagon went down. There was absolutely no way that lynch was pushed by town. There was no reasoning for lynching Purple. I think that is becoming more and more clear from the flips so far this game. I thought about checking Xata and checked you instead. You weren't scum though you were SK.
So there is absolutely no way that the first scum wagon was pushed by town? right.
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On December 18 2013 03:31 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:29 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:27 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:17 sidesprang wrote: Hmm, there are three things I dont like about the claim.
1. He did not leave any breadcrumbs for like the first idk 30 hours of this day, and also they were very weak. The breadcrum on Vayne I buy tho. Would be a very nice breadcrumb.
2. Why did you claim? We were gonna lynch Xata = confirmed scum, and Xata tried to "talk" to the SK and told him that Scum were gonna lynch SK (aka plutarch). So if you kept quiet, we would have lynchd xata, and woken up to only 1 kill from SK tomorrow, no mafia kills and an alive Plutarch. Your case against plutarch tomorrow would have been foolproof, no way he could have defended himself against that if you claimed tomorrow.
3. There was no way you were gonna die this night. So you could have gotten one more safe check without problems.
You're right about the last 2. My claim was stupid. Breadcrumbs are fine. All breadcrumbs really need to do is make your checks clear. Leaving more than that is just asking for trouble. No breadcrumbs are there so that when you claim your claim is iron clad. A good breadcrumb will crumb your role (which you didn't do) Crumb your checks before the day posts (which you didn't do) and the results after it. (which you didn't do) Well we just have different opinions on this. I don't feel like I need to make myself obvious as cop to outargue scum. If you want to use that against me that is your prerogative Crumbs don't need to be obvious. They just need to exist in a way which cannot be faked. all yours were easily faked. i told you already. I have never been cop before. Look in any of my past games scum or town and you will not find me ever having a town tell on a specific player that I won't reveal which is deterring me from lynching him
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OK. so JJD and grack are both claiming scum with this push on me. If I die lynch them both. If I somehow get lynched. Lynch them both. Then we still have the real cop to find the SK.
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On December 18 2013 03:32 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 03:31 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 03:29 Plutarch wrote: Also which cop in their right mind would check me night two after the purple lynch? I should be one of the last checks you would make as cop after that wagon went down. There was absolutely no way that lynch was pushed by town. There was no reasoning for lynching Purple. I think that is becoming more and more clear from the flips so far this game. I thought about checking Xata and checked you instead. You weren't scum though you were SK. So there is absolutely no way that the first scum wagon was pushed by town? right. If it makes sense then it is pushed by town. There was no reasoning for him being scum and he got killed without my help. That wagon is pushed by scum.
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