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Sentinel - could you clarify with the hosts that what we've said is correct?
Obviously they're not going to tell you about the game state, but confirm that like, dead people don't need to use their powers on you, and confirm that if there is no-one left with in-thread powers AND you have powered everyone up, you would be removed.
Basically make sure you understand this wincon 100%
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hey at least I was right about something this game, my gaming the set-up post is probably pretty good
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On November 07 2013 00:19 strongandbig wrote: Okay I posted in qt
Also interesting out of sent. Everyone who's claimed an in thread ##action is ##dead right?
Sent do you have to only get alive players for both parts of your second wincon? I assume so because otherwise it would be impossible, since one of the vote changer people is probably going to die before all three of them target you. You are correct
Also are you sure it means in thread actions and not all "##actions"? Cause based on the dead people's role pms, out of thread actions are also ##'ed, they just get pm'd to the hosts instead of posted in thread.
My role PM explicitly states in-thread actions for both targeting and assisting.
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Anyway - I'm not sure what someone having extra ##actions in thread that they haven't claimed tells us - I guess it seems odd that the hypothetical scum charger role has both in-thread and out-of-thread ##actions, but I see no reason it's impossible. And I still think the rayn thing makes it seem like scum have a charger role.
+ Show Spoiler +(Koshi said that he thought the hosts could have told scum that somewhere not in their role pms, but i dont buy it. The hosts telling scum for free how town powers work would be pretty unprecedented and borderline bastardy IMO, scum already have information advantage about alignments and giving them information advantage about roles also would be pretty unfair. Almost as bad as giving scum an identical role with different costs and not telling them the costs are different, like in whose line mafia.)
One possibility I hadn't thought of before - I guess it's possible that there is a scum charge up role that didnt claim ever or try to use powers. That seems sufficiently unlikely for multiple reasons that I'm comfortable still believing either prome or oats has to be scum.
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On October 31 2013 03:20 HotCottonCandy wrote: Incase I die
Power up roles - Sentinel, Koshi, marv, prom, and oats
vote changers - pandain, WoS, Seuss
Unknown/etc - OOHCHILD, rayn, SnB
Gonna go ahead and game the setup here and say there is 1 scum in each of these lists. Clarity flipped the same role that I am so I'm pretty sure there is 1 more VT. SnB is town from this deduction.
OOHCHILD - Now that I know it's kush this doesnt look like his recent townplay at all. He hasn't made any cases or deduced anything worth reading like has recently been the case, he has only been throwing suspicion on random people and then nuking completely different targets. His play is erratic and doesn't make sense. With that said, I don't think he would play this reckless as scum because in an experimental game it's just asking to get shot in the face in some way.
Rayn - Not as aggressive as you would like him to be, although I think it's more of him changing his playstyle then anything. He played like this more in Thug Life and Noire and he was town and scum respectively so it's a bit of a null tell there. On the other hand, he isn't actually pushing anything and has been absent for large chunks of the game where I would expect him to otherwise be. The fact that nobody really has any strong opinions in the game about him yet lead me to believe he is most likely the scum from this list.
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Pandain - What exactly has he done this game? Honestly nothing sticks out in my mind.
WoS - Glad we let him live, 100% town. if you can't see that from his recent posting then go home.
Seuss - From what I understand he is a newbie or close to it and he is simply playing like an earnest one. I don't see any malice in his play he just struggles to not be wishy-washy, probably nervous.
By process of elimination, pandain is the scum from this list.
Sentinel - gave everyone nukes but he is immune to them. 3rd party anyone? Makes quite a bit of sense is how blase he is this game, doesn't really care to weigh in on anything and just sorta drifting away in his own world. The role and his play lead me to believe 3rd party at this point.
Koshi - Similar to pandain, I honestly can't think of what he has done this game. Nuked Pandain though so if im going with my list he isn't scum unless he is a fucking genius.
Oats - Great day 1 play, it almost looked too good to be true for town oats. Recently has started slipping up more. Possibly scum here?
Marv - Not scum as far as I'm aware. He's pretty easy to read, a less annoying yamato.
Promethelax - This is the one I'm the least sure about. The last time I played with him he was 3rd party so I honestly have nothing to base anything off except his play here. Seems a bit too cocky to be scum but that's just a stupid heuristic. Keep an eye on this guy at lategame if we still haven't found the scum on this list by then. He has lapses of logic that just don't make sense at key points in the game.
this post is relevant now unless sentinel is just pulling a BH
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Actually you hit the nail on the head HCC with your description of me.
I love being survivor, I have to give just enough of a shit about the game to not die
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hmm, I'm not 100% sure what the right solution to this is. I'll think about it when I'm not at work
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ok checked my role pm again. I dont have anything in thread to ## about
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##unvote ##vote Sentinel
Oats & Sentinel might be last 2 scum. But unless Sentinel explains his role fully and tell us who out of SnB/VA/Kush is lieing about his role he can die.
Oats doesn't have another spell that he can use ingame.
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would be an easy way to clear this up, read sentinel's role for ourselves lol. is that what you are thinking too koshi?
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On November 07 2013 00:37 HotCottonCandy wrote: would be an easy way to clear this up, read sentinel's role for ourselves lol. is that what you are thinking too koshi? Yes.
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So we flip Sent and he's telling the truth, then what?
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You think Oats has a totally different role or an extra spell he can use? Because if Sentinel is telling the thruth Oats can't be scum or townies are holding back information.
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marv has a point, tricky tricky.
but it's like sent claimed at this perfect time to fuck up the game, see it is causing chaos...
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When did we jump from 3 scums to 4?
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On November 07 2013 00:41 HotCottonCandy wrote: marv has a point, tricky tricky.
but it's like sent claimed at this perfect time to fuck up the game, see it is causing chaos...
Thread was dead, I started some discussion with newfound information.
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fuck, if only we'd verified at least a part of Oats' role yesterday.
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there isn't 4 scum if you are really a survivor I am pretty sure. 5 anti town in 13 people would be a little crazy.
The person who looks the worse from this is kush unfortunately, I really doubt his only power was to block ## for a day from some one, seems too weak by itself.
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