kush can prove nothing, I don't think. His attitude towards me all game has been ridiculous, and he has the most mafia-oriented power+use of anyone in the thread by some margin.

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

October 31 2013 14:19 GMT

#2426

Hmm it was Kush who wanted to vote Seuss the entire time but then swapped because Seuss counterclaimed WoS.

On October 30 2013 01:36 OOHCHILD wrote:
Popping in to say I hate the WoS lynch. It feels like the only reason why are lynching him is because he isn't here.

I'm letting Pandain go.
Im letting Marv go (don't see what is so town about him though)

I would lynch Seuss, HotCottonCandy, or Sentinel.

On October 30 2013 01:50 OOHCHILD wrote:
Let's CFD Seuss or HotCottonCandy.
I'm voting for Seuss now because more people have expressed interest in lynching him.

On October 30 2013 02:32 OOHCHILD wrote:
Seuss over WoS please.

All else being equal, you lynch the weaker player so that you can benefit from the insight of the better player.
In this case Seuss is the weaker player.

I read Seuss' analysis he posted in some quick chat about some random game. He is not thinking nearly as deep in this game as he was thinking in that analysis.

WoS voting for himself. You may not like it but it's honest. He is honest about not knowing who to lynch and that leans town.

On October 30 2013 02:39 OOHCHILD wrote:

Show nested quote +

This is actually a very good point. Changing my vote to WoS.

Also this is totes scum Kush meta for wanting to be right. On Clarity, WoS and Seuss (yes Seuss is confirmed scum)

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

October 31 2013 14:22 GMT

#2427

The confirmation of Wave makes OOH look worse as well. I already commented that kush decided he was going to vote for WoS, and then left his vote there and didn't post for 45 minutes up to lynch or something.

And then the nightpost happens, and shortly after he nukes Wave because Wave "should have been the one lynched". For starters, that's ridiculous reasoning at the best of times, and worse than that, it completely ignores everything Wave posted in the interim. Obviously Wave shouldn't have been lynched, because we decided his content in that last hour or so was townie enough that he shouldn't be lynched. That whole passage smells.

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

October 31 2013 14:29 GMT

#2428

But a lot doesn't make sense though.
Why the townread on Clarity as scum?
Why reveal being Kush as scum?
Why so controversial as scum?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

October 31 2013 14:29 GMT

#2429

On October 31 2013 23:29 Koshi wrote:
But a lot doesn't make sense though.
Why the townread on Clarity as scum?
Why reveal being Kush as scum?
Why so controversial as scum?

1) he likes to be right
2) ego
3) ego

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

October 31 2013 14:31 GMT

#2430

It's not like there's a slam dunk case he's mafia, but it's pretty much why he's a perfect nuke target.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

October 31 2013 14:33 GMT

#2431

##Twerk
Let me know if I got that wrong

Anyway I looked at sent again. I read his filter this game and his filter from noir where he was scum. No quotes cause on phone.

Filter this game feels very different from noir filter. Noir he was way more "srsbsns I'm makin reads guise". However, I can't decide whether that indicates an alignment difference or if it's just cause this game is a crazy themed game where he got a troll role from the hosts.

I'm still a little stuck on the stuff at the start of the game about not retweeting koshi, then doing Marv, then doing koshi anyway. It just all feels pretty over-done/under-explained, if that makes sense.

Also I kind of have a problem with him not really talking about anyone but kush and himself (and wos I guess). Like, the stuff in his case is mostly true - kush's actions were pretty much objectively scummy and terrible. But it's pretty convenient if sent's scum. But on the other hand, I know that can also happen to a townie under pressure, and judging by his noir filter it's not like tunneling is a scum tell for him.

In conclusion: Sentinel could very well be scum, and I would say he's higher on my scummy list than many others in this game, but I'm far from convinced.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

October 31 2013 14:36 GMT

#2432

One odd thing that I don't know what it means either way - Sentinel claimed to be immune to nukes.

Immune to dud nukes.

So weird.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

October 31 2013 14:40 GMT

#2433

Marv why didn't your nuke worm

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

October 31 2013 14:42 GMT

#2434

On October 31 2013 23:33 strongandbig wrote:
In conclusion: Sentinel could very well be scum, and I would say he's higher on my scummy list than many others in this game, but I'm far from convinced.

What an awesome conclusion in a game with 8 towns and 3 scums.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

October 31 2013 14:42 GMT

#2435

On October 31 2013 23:40 strongandbig wrote:
Marv why didn't your nuke worm

Top question sir.

Did you notice my ##Nuke?

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

October 31 2013 14:43 GMT

#2436

Can you give me a top 3 SnB?

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

October 31 2013 14:57 GMT

#2437

On October 31 2013 23:43 Koshi wrote:
Can you give me a top 3 SnB?

i can give you my current gut reads before i have to get back to my problem set. it's pretty messy, i feel like all my reads are mixed / "wishy washy" and people are going to yell at me for it (although I don't think faking a couple strong reads is particularly hard for scum).

- kush has played objectively scummy, although i'm kind of worried about the "too scummy to be scum" aspect of things like his #shunnanigans, but kush would probably do it as scum
- i'm worried about pandain despite my meta read of his long posts, he keeps posting things with reasoning that strikes me as pretty inane and my gut impression is that he's not updating his reads
- VA - i believe what i said when i nuked him but i also feel like scumVA wouldn't have put in the effort to rethink his read on me after the nuke and engage in a conversation about it

then i guess the next tier would be sentinel along with you and rayn, people who I think are pretty dangerous as scum and haven't really given me a particularly townie gut impression.

Also there's seuss, next time I get some thread time I'll look through your case on him and his filter in detail.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

October 31 2013 14:58 GMT

#2438

s&b, it feels like you're always one step behind the thread, and it's quite disconcerting.

Oatsmaster

United States16627 Posts

October 31 2013 15:00 GMT

#2439

oh god his scum reads are people who are good at scum but dont look like town.
Wow.

OOHCHILD

United States570 Posts

October 31 2013 15:03 GMT

#2440

EVERYONE. Tonight I have some free time. People don't realize how busy I am in my daily life I think... full time student full time job.. Anyway tonight I will do things that prove I'm town, things I cannot do as scum.

Koshi my man, your case on Seuss, Marv said it was good. Don't let him buddy you. He is one scummy mother fucker. Your case was garbage. If someone does or does not use a twitter power, that says jack shit about their alignment. I have not twittered anyone all game. Why? because honestly i don't give a fuck.

Yes I am capable of defending clarity as scum. However, I am also very aware of how people view my meta. As scum, since people THINK my meta is defending town and attacking scum, I would defend scum and attack town. That is what I have been doing in my recent scum games. Not really defending scum but definitely attacking town.