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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Which is more likely from a scum player in general when they are about to lose (not talking LYLO here)? To fight like crazy against all odds, pushing lynches, delving filters constantly, and engaging the town in conversation ALL of the time? Or giving up and hoping the town just magically forgets about you because you've most likely lost anyway and you don't want to put in wasted effort? | ||
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austinmcc
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On October 12 2013 07:57 WaveofShadow wrote: I have an Occam's Razor for you guise. Which is more likely from a scum player in general when they are about to lose (not talking LYLO here)? To fight like crazy against all odds, pushing lynches, delving filters constantly, and engaging the town in conversation ALL of the time? Or giving up and hoping the town just magically forgets about you because you've most likely lost anyway and you don't want to put in wasted effort? The first one, at least if i was in question. In I swear 2 when Sylencia killed Artanis and Z-Boson claimed scum (and outed me aswell) to FirmTofu i wanted to shoot him and claim vigilante and try play 9-1. :D I only gave up when he posted all comments from our scum QT. :D | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 12 2013 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: The first one, at least if i was in question. In I swear 2 when Sylencia killed Artanis and Z-Boson claimed scum (and outed me aswell) to FirmTofu i wanted to shoot him and claim vigilante and try play 9-1. :D I only gave up when he posted all comments from our scum QT. :D LOL I remember reading that. You didn't really end up doing it though, and if you did it was only to spite the fact that you had the game ruined for you. Try to think of it objectively, Rayn. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 12 2013 08:13 WaveofShadow wrote: The latter!Austin you can go ahead and answer if you'd like. (To be fair, I've been lynched as mafia once and lynched as town once. In both cases I actively fought hard) But in general, town players getting lynched when the game is close to being on the line don't give up/go silent. Heck, town players who maybe or maybe don't out scum don't sit back and do nothing at all after that. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 12 2013 08:15 austinmcc wrote: The latter! (To be fair, I've been lynched as mafia once and lynched as town once. In both cases I actively fought hard) But in general, town players getting lynched when the game is close to being on the line don't give up/go silent. Heck, town players who maybe or maybe don't out scum don't sit back and do nothing at all after that. In my opinion, you fought hard in PTP because you had a really close shot to winning. It was completley up in the air, and the effort you put in would visibly make a difference. In which game were you lynched as scum, and at what point in the game did you fight? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Lynched in CT as mafia. Lynched in looney lynching as town. In CT so many people were confirmed by actions or stuff, and I replaced in for a guy who took actions that didn't make sense. Fought only the day I was about to be lynched. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Problem is, I don't care. It's difficult to care when your teammate CLAIMED SCUM for absolutely no reason. Like, even despite having 4 confirmed towns and night actions being retarded, we still had a chance. CR claimed because he thought he would get lynched no matter what... DIDNT EVEN FIGHT JUST ROLLED OVER. We could have easily pushed austin off a cliff by lynch, or i could have bussed him for towncred etc. nope. claim scum, gg. Like wtf... basically ruined any chance we had at winning here. didnt even consult me in the QT. So im not going to bother trying, don't care. Games over. I'm pretty salty about CR, game could use a few choice balance tweaks like weed costing a whole kp, but overall was fun. Btw we all thought oats was last mafia pre confirm. I dont remember why we did the payphone thing but it sounded epic to me, and not being able to 100% deal with cop was kinda bad, putting night actions a coin flip. I shot SnB by random yolo shot :3 I could have won by pushing austin and then convincing wos to vote vayne or something, but i stopped caring when cr claimed. S0lstice played like a champ though, what a boss. This is a formal concession, end game please. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Strong enough that maybe shouldn't cost .5 KP if you can disable someone every night. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
Sorry austin for going after you, i was paranoid because WoS & Vayne were so so town and i don't know your play well enough. Finally town wins something. ^_^ | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 12 2013 12:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's alright. I really hope obs thought I was townie, though. I think anyone who's played with me a decent number of times would not have suspected me for some of the stuff you were on my about. But I can understand some bits of the read in a vacuum.Well done guys by looking hella town. Sorry austin for going after you, i was paranoid because WoS & Vayne were so so town and i don't know your play well enough. Finally town wins something. ^_^ Stuff like me going a little nuts, not knowing who to believe, and wanting to lynch outside the cops when we have great odds and some reads (seriously, super pro town plan imo), is either not indicative of my alignment or townie. I haven't really done any weird stuff in thread as mafia. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 12 2013 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Eh, i really dont care anymore. In any other game i would be fighting so hard in this situation. In noir mini and nomination and aperture, i was so active end game, and the former two i was making cases and huge posts all over the place. Problem is, I don't care. It's difficult to care when your teammate CLAIMED SCUM for absolutely no reason. Like, even despite having 4 confirmed towns and night actions being retarded, we still had a chance. CR claimed because he thought he would get lynched no matter what... DIDNT EVEN FIGHT JUST ROLLED OVER. We could have easily pushed austin off a cliff by lynch, or i could have bussed him for towncred etc. nope. claim scum, gg. Like wtf... basically ruined any chance we had at winning here. didnt even consult me in the QT. So im not going to bother trying, don't care. Games over. I'm pretty salty about CR, game could use a few choice balance tweaks like weed costing a whole kp, but overall was fun. Btw we all thought oats was last mafia pre confirm. I dont remember why we did the payphone thing but it sounded epic to me, and not being able to 100% deal with cop was kinda bad, putting night actions a coin flip. I shot SnB by random yolo shot :3 I could have won by pushing austin and then convincing wos to vote vayne or something, but i stopped caring when cr claimed. S0lstice played like a champ though, what a boss. This is a formal concession, end game please. GG Cheese. The payphone thing being fake did seem a very 'you' thing to try. You guys definitely had a chance if not for the scumclaims. CR, please get some coaching before your next game imo---a little pressure from us was absolutely no reason to give up. GG all! Austin, for a guy trying so fucking hard I think it's hilarious you remained a top scum choice all game for so many people. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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