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I have little time anymore for the game. school and work all the time...
I understand an activity lynch at this point. Makes sense, kind of a liability by not being able to play. I'm the easy guy to pick on at this point due to that, so if there is someone who just wants to lynch me and not considering other targets question him ( i havent read game in days)
Anyway, if im going to.get lynched today you guys must consider that the payphone was real and i gave you scum from it. For tomorrows lynch. The fact that it's considered fake in the first place is pretty stupid, but w.e. im a mafia genious and im feared for epic shit.
Effort isnt alignment indicative either, but meh, liability... kind of disheartened that im on the block tbh.
I WILL try to post some from school if i have time, one more phone posting violation related incident at work and im canned.
If i flip, reconsider austin. I think he's town due to meta, if im wrong it sucks but i want my voice to be heard when im watching from the GY at lylo. Remember scum is between vayne and wos.
If I dont get lynched today town should win, just need to lynch both vayne amd wos. if austin is mafia kudos, wp.
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I would rather lynch austin before anyone else, sticking with simplest solution = best solution
##vote: austinmmc
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On October 12 2013 06:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
I would rather lynch austin before anyone else, sticking with simplest solution = best solution
##vote: austinmmc
I don't see how that applies here.
Can you explain?
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On October 11 2013 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
in regards to the whole payphone thing this is where im at:
s0lstice = scum read on Mr.CC
CR = useless(sorry)
austin = adamant about pandain not being scum even when it was blatantly obvious, couldn't wait for noire to be over to say it.
so this together makes sense on paper in them thinking that cheesecake is the last scum and contacting him.
On October 10 2013 07:54 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyone except VisceraEyes, this is what i want you to do on N5, or at last on D6;
Wo is the last scum and why, considering these things:
(1) Solstice payphoning CC. How does the scum actions on D4 make sense regarding that happening?
(2) N4, and CR claiming scum, and the scum actions regarding that.
(3) D5, CR retracting from the scumclaim when seeing Pandain flip and then claiming scum again. The scum guys actions regarding that.
(4) It is clear that D4 onwards scum were bussing and bussing hard. Who is the last scum and why do their actions from D4 onwards make most sense from scum!pov?
VE: One of us is gonna die the next night. You, or if scum have 2 KP they might double stack me. Look closely into those answers, consider what i have said, and if it does make sense when you cross-reference that into other people's answers. If someone does not answer this post, lynch. 1. Doesn't implicate anyone really. s0lstice had Mr.CC as a scumread so it actually makes sense that he contacted him as a potential opposing team, and he also thought pandain was town. This doesnt have to be some elaborate plan by any means, it could be simply that. 2. Again, doesn't implicate anybody. Only shows that they were trying to save the last banger. Hence why when pandain dies, CR tries to unclaim scum. 3. See above, completely meaningless to finding the last scum. 4. Austin has been targeting s0lstice and CR for a bit recently, this implicates him the most. S0lstice also warmed up to an austin lynch before the whole fiasco but never actually expands on it. In the end, I'm willing to stick with Occam's razor which has been great so far and lynch austin who I believe is the last scum. He has quite a long bullshit of a filter, but in the end his play doesn't add up this game. Austin is the last scum, final answer.
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On October 12 2013 06:21 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
in regards to the whole payphone thing this is where im at:
s0lstice = scum read on Mr.CC
CR = useless(sorry)
austin = adamant about pandain not being scum even when it was blatantly obvious, couldn't wait for noire to be over to say it.
so this together makes sense on paper in them thinking that cheesecake is the last scum and contacting him.
Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 07:54 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 10 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyone except VisceraEyes, this is what i want you to do on N5, or at last on D6;
Wo is the last scum and why, considering these things:
(1) Solstice payphoning CC. How does the scum actions on D4 make sense regarding that happening?
(2) N4, and CR claiming scum, and the scum actions regarding that.
(3) D5, CR retracting from the scumclaim when seeing Pandain flip and then claiming scum again. The scum guys actions regarding that.
(4) It is clear that D4 onwards scum were bussing and bussing hard. Who is the last scum and why do their actions from D4 onwards make most sense from scum!pov?
VE: One of us is gonna die the next night. You, or if scum have 2 KP they might double stack me. Look closely into those answers, consider what i have said, and if it does make sense when you cross-reference that into other people's answers. If someone does not answer this post, lynch.1. Doesn't implicate anyone really. s0lstice had Mr.CC as a scumread so it actually makes sense that he contacted him as a potential opposing team, and he also thought pandain was town. This doesnt have to be some elaborate plan by any means, it could be simply that. 2. Again, doesn't implicate anybody. Only shows that they were trying to save the last banger. Hence why when pandain dies, CR tries to unclaim scum. 3. See above, completely meaningless to finding the last scum. 4. Austin has been targeting s0lstice and CR for a bit recently, this implicates him the most. S0lstice also warmed up to an austin lynch before the whole fiasco but never actually expands on it. In the end, I'm willing to stick with Occam's razor which has been great so far and lynch austin who I believe is the last scum. He has quite a long bullshit of a filter, but in the end his play doesn't add up this game. Austin is the last scum, final answer.
I mean....I guess? It doesn't seem nearly as simple to me as the previous cases.
One thing actually which is an interesting thought that I got out of those posts of yours is.....Austin is REALLY sure a bunch of the time when people are town/scum.
I know it certainly makes people a shit ton easier to bus, and if you remember in Les I was absolutely certain that JJD was scum (and for good reason lol). Pandain was absolutely certain FT was town and spend the entirety of a day defending him.
I almost want to try and dig through stuff again to see how 'sure' Austin is of certain things. I believe it's harder to fake lack of conviction as scum because with a scum mindset, you'd always be thinking that people are going to point you out as 'wishy-washy.'
Rayn, what do you think of VA applying Occam's Razor here? Does it work?
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I actually wanted to lynch cheesecake today if one kill happened but after talking to austin more he is clearly not trying to be truthful this game or help out at all.
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I dunno what i think.
On the other hand lately on Cheesydude has been the definition of uselessness and i really hate that now when it actually does matter.
On the other hand Vayne is a cool dude and shares my thoughts almost exactly. And has done so nearly whole game. Especially the sureness of certain people's alignments with no apparent reasoning (i didn't find it good) is really fishy and concerns me the most. Like, he is "too right" on many people but then can't see Pandain scum and Koshi/Solstice situation.
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rayn, apart from the payphone doodle, can you give me a couple things about cheesecake that you find/found townie?
VA,
I think some of the stuff you did was scummy. I'd think it regardless of alignment. It's not lying, it's not being untruthful, I don't think you came to the final conclusion when analyzing the BH kill. You gave a list of 3 people, decided you'd vote for them ALL, without doing ANY analysis of why one might be more likely than the other, why one person gave a town read on BH but wasn't scum, etc. etc. Essentially, ANYONE WHO HAD A TOWNREAD ON BH D1 WAS SCUM FOR YOU, and that was it. No attempt to see if the rest of their filters did anything for you, no attempt to pick a likely killer, just BH died --> people townie on BH most likely killers --> here are people townie on BH --> I will vote for all of them.
Actually, same question to you VA, apart from the payphone thing, Cheese is town because ____________
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I can't. I never find CC townie in games when i am town. He's always scummy regardless of alignment, mainly because he does not do much.
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On October 12 2013 07:20 austinmcc wrote:
rayn, apart from the payphone doodle, can you give me a couple things about cheesecake that you find/found townie?
VA,
I think some of the stuff you did was scummy. I'd think it regardless of alignment. It's not lying, it's not being untruthful, I don't think you came to the final conclusion when analyzing the BH kill. You gave a list of 3 people, decided you'd vote for them ALL, without doing ANY analysis of why one might be more likely than the other, why one person gave a town read on BH but wasn't scum, etc. etc. Essentially, ANYONE WHO HAD A TOWNREAD ON BH D1 WAS SCUM FOR YOU, and that was it. No attempt to see if the rest of their filters did anything for you, no attempt to pick a likely killer, just BH died --> people townie on BH most likely killers --> here are people townie on BH --> I will vote for all of them.
Actually, same question to you VA, apart from the payphone thing, Cheese is town because ____________
he isn't town to me. You are just way scummier.
And I just freakin' quoted where I delved into their filters and decided that I was sure of the read! it's posts like this where you are lying and it's annoying. I don't put my analysis in the thread because i dont give a shit about other people's opinions on it. its for me only.
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for a good example of why I dont bother anymore, look at carnival cruise mafia where I had prphlz as scum and people laughed at my reasoning and subsequently vig'd me.
he was scum.
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On October 12 2013 07:24 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 07:20 austinmcc wrote:
rayn, apart from the payphone doodle, can you give me a couple things about cheesecake that you find/found townie?
VA,
I think some of the stuff you did was scummy. I'd think it regardless of alignment. It's not lying, it's not being untruthful, I don't think you came to the final conclusion when analyzing the BH kill. You gave a list of 3 people, decided you'd vote for them ALL, without doing ANY analysis of why one might be more likely than the other, why one person gave a town read on BH but wasn't scum, etc. etc. Essentially, ANYONE WHO HAD A TOWNREAD ON BH D1 WAS SCUM FOR YOU, and that was it. No attempt to see if the rest of their filters did anything for you, no attempt to pick a likely killer, just BH died --> people townie on BH most likely killers --> here are people townie on BH --> I will vote for all of them.
Actually, same question to you VA, apart from the payphone thing, Cheese is town because ____________ he isn't town to me. You are just way scummier. And I just freakin' quoted where I delved into their filters and decided that I was sure of the read! it's posts like this where you are lying and it's annoying. I don't put my analysis in the thread because i dont give a shit about other people's opinions on it. its for me only. Between this post:On September 30 2013 07:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
So I have no idea why anyone shot BH or what this means. The only people that trusted him even remotely were pandain, grack, and palmar. Everybody else tried to throw suspicion on him or said he was scummy. He died though so we know it wasn't a cop kill. Sooo wtf is going on here.
Palmar/Pandain probably come off looking the worst from this since palmar gave him a town read and visa versa and pandain is trying to lynch FT through his dead body. Grack has some sort of boner for BH where he looks up to him so that is a potential fear kill.
No need to reply to this post, I won't read it and these posts:On October 01 2013 00:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote:grackaroni On October 01 2013 00:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
alternatively, i will vote for pandain or palmar On October 01 2013 00:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
after reading all filters those are the 3 that were most likely to dispose of BH You DON'T comment at all. You don't discuss any of those three people between those two points.
So if you "delved into their filters," it's not apparent from your posts. You say three people "trusted him." You say how they're related to BH. But you don't talk about their filters, you don't show you delved anything, and besides the implicit "BH is dead and someone who thought he was scummy wouldn't kill BH," you don't even explain WHY the people who had townreads on BH = all scum and BH's killers.
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its not apparent that I delved into their filters when I just typed that I read all of their filters? k
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if we try to use anything on him early game its off limits because he replaced in but now this late in the game he wants to use early days against me kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
lol vote austin or see you guys after this phase, done here
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I guess I don't understand how occam's razor says "the dude who nobody can say a townie thing about, bar the payphone" is the less obvious mafia than the various crap you think about me.
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On October 12 2013 07:34 austinmcc wrote:
I guess I don't understand how occam's razor says "the dude who nobody can say a townie thing about, bar the payphone" is the less obvious mafia than the various crap you think about me.
then why dont you show how cheesecake is scummier than you? why are you focusing on me? for tomorrow HMM?
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On October 12 2013 07:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
its not apparent that I delved into their filters when I just typed that I read all of their filters? k no. not at all.
I can type "I'm an elephant."
It's not apparent that I'm an elephant.
For it to be apparent that you actually looked at their filters, I'd expect quotes from their filters, or references to scummy posts they made, or ANY sort of specific reference. Instead, you comment on hiro/WoS and some other stuff, then say, "I delved their filters."
You saying you did something doesn't make it apparent that you actually did it, when this is a game where people lie.
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On October 12 2013 07:37 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 07:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
its not apparent that I delved into their filters when I just typed that I read all of their filters? k no. not at all. I can type "I'm an elephant." It's not apparent that I'm an elephant. For it to be apparent that you actually looked at their filters, I'd expect quotes from their filters, or references to scummy posts they made, or ANY sort of specific reference. Instead, you comment on hiro/WoS and some other stuff, then say, "I delved their filters." You saying you did something doesn't make it apparent that you actually did it, when this is a game where people lie.
but you see that doesn't work when that is what I do, so you fail yet again, better luck next time. go play in the dumpster with cheesecake
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On October 12 2013 07:39 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 07:37 austinmcc wrote:On October 12 2013 07:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
its not apparent that I delved into their filters when I just typed that I read all of their filters? k no. not at all. I can type "I'm an elephant." It's not apparent that I'm an elephant. For it to be apparent that you actually looked at their filters, I'd expect quotes from their filters, or references to scummy posts they made, or ANY sort of specific reference. Instead, you comment on hiro/WoS and some other stuff, then say, "I delved their filters." You saying you did something doesn't make it apparent that you actually did it, when this is a game where people lie. but you see that doesn't work when that is what I do, so you fail yet again, better luck next time. go play in the dumpster with cheesecake If you don't want to put reasoning in thread, whatever.
But don't say "I just don't do reasoning or justification, that's how I roll" and then say it's APPARENT that you looked at filters. Nobody outside of you has any idea whether you actually did or not. You can't claim it's apparent to us you did x or y when there are no indicia of you doing x or y.
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well thats why rayn is good at reading me and you aren't, pce for real now gotta go
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