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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 11 2013 22:57 GMT
#6041
I have an Occam's Razor for you guise.
Which is more likely from a scum player in general when they are about to lose (not talking LYLO here)?
To fight like crazy against all odds, pushing lynches, delving filters constantly, and engaging the town in conversation ALL of the time?
Or giving up and hoping the town just magically forgets about you because you've most likely lost anyway and you don't want to put in wasted effort?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 11 2013 23:02 GMT
#6042
I'm assuming that I'm not allowed to answer.
Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 11 2013 23:06 GMT
#6043
On October 12 2013 07:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
I have an Occam's Razor for you guise.
Which is more likely from a scum player in general when they are about to lose (not talking LYLO here)?
To fight like crazy against all odds, pushing lynches, delving filters constantly, and engaging the town in conversation ALL of the time?
Or giving up and hoping the town just magically forgets about you because you've most likely lost anyway and you don't want to put in wasted effort?

The first one, at least if i was in question.
In I swear 2 when Sylencia killed Artanis and Z-Boson claimed scum (and outed me aswell) to FirmTofu i wanted to shoot him and claim vigilante and try play 9-1. :D
I only gave up when he posted all comments from our scum QT. :D
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 11 2013 23:11 GMT
#6044
I don't think you're a lynch option today rayn
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 11 2013 23:13 GMT
#6045
On October 12 2013 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
I have an Occam's Razor for you guise.
Which is more likely from a scum player in general when they are about to lose (not talking LYLO here)?
To fight like crazy against all odds, pushing lynches, delving filters constantly, and engaging the town in conversation ALL of the time?
Or giving up and hoping the town just magically forgets about you because you've most likely lost anyway and you don't want to put in wasted effort?

The first one, at least if i was in question.
In I swear 2 when Sylencia killed Artanis and Z-Boson claimed scum (and outed me aswell) to FirmTofu i wanted to shoot him and claim vigilante and try play 9-1. :D
I only gave up when he posted all comments from our scum QT. :D

LOL I remember reading that. You didn't really end up doing it though, and if you did it was only to spite the fact that you had the game ruined for you.
Try to think of it objectively, Rayn.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 11 2013 23:13 GMT
#6046
Austin you can go ahead and answer if you'd like.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 11 2013 23:15 GMT
#6047
On October 12 2013 08:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Austin you can go ahead and answer if you'd like.
The latter!

(To be fair, I've been lynched as mafia once and lynched as town once. In both cases I actively fought hard)

But in general, town players getting lynched when the game is close to being on the line don't give up/go silent.

Heck, town players who maybe or maybe don't out scum don't sit back and do nothing at all after that.
Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 11 2013 23:16 GMT
#6048
If Austin is scum the game is not lost for him. We are atm lynching CC.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 11 2013 23:17 GMT
#6049
On October 12 2013 08:15 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 08:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Austin you can go ahead and answer if you'd like.
The latter!

(To be fair, I've been lynched as mafia once and lynched as town once. In both cases I actively fought hard)

But in general, town players getting lynched when the game is close to being on the line don't give up/go silent.

Heck, town players who maybe or maybe don't out scum don't sit back and do nothing at all after that.

In my opinion, you fought hard in PTP because you had a really close shot to winning. It was completley up in the air, and the effort you put in would visibly make a difference.

In which game were you lynched as scum, and at what point in the game did you fight?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 11 2013 23:21 GMT
#6050
Oh, PTP doesn't even count. I fought hard cuz I was embarrassed that I claimed and could have ruined game for team.

Lynched in CT as mafia. Lynched in looney lynching as town. In CT so many people were confirmed by actions or stuff, and I replaced in for a guy who took actions that didn't make sense. Fought only the day I was about to be lynched.
Fe fi fo fum.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 12 2013 02:58 GMT
#6051
Eh, i really dont care anymore. In any other game i would be fighting so hard in this situation. In noir mini and nomination and aperture, i was so active end game, and the former two i was making cases and huge posts all over the place.

Problem is, I don't care. It's difficult to care when your teammate CLAIMED SCUM for absolutely no reason. Like, even despite having 4 confirmed towns and night actions being retarded, we still had a chance. CR claimed because he thought he would get lynched no matter what... DIDNT EVEN FIGHT JUST ROLLED OVER. We could have easily pushed austin off a cliff by lynch, or i could have bussed him for towncred etc. nope. claim scum, gg. Like wtf... basically ruined any chance we had at winning here.

didnt even consult me in the QT.

So im not going to bother trying, don't care. Games over. I'm pretty salty about CR, game could use a few choice balance tweaks like weed costing a whole kp, but overall was fun.

Btw we all thought oats was last mafia pre confirm. I dont remember why we did the payphone thing but it sounded epic to me, and not being able to 100% deal with cop was kinda bad, putting night actions a coin flip.

I shot SnB by random yolo shot :3

I could have won by pushing austin and then convincing wos to vote vayne or something, but i stopped caring when cr claimed. S0lstice played like a champ though, what a boss. This is a formal concession, end game please.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 12 2013 03:05 GMT
#6052
gg cheese?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 12 2013 03:07 GMT
#6053
I think the reason items may seem overcosted was that, as best I could tell, it's a permanent power boost for your team. Give up a KP, get a permanent RB, allowing you to shut down a cop forever.

Strong enough that maybe shouldn't cost .5 KP if you can disable someone every night.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 12 2013 03:09 GMT
#6054
Or maybe that's not what he meant by infinite use, I dunno. Maybe he meant you could activate it multiple times.
Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 12 2013 03:10 GMT
#6055
Well done guys by looking hella town.
Sorry austin for going after you, i was paranoid because WoS & Vayne were so so town and i don't know your play well enough.

Finally town wins something. ^_^
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 12 2013 03:14 GMT
#6056
On October 12 2013 12:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well done guys by looking hella town.
Sorry austin for going after you, i was paranoid because WoS & Vayne were so so town and i don't know your play well enough.

Finally town wins something. ^_^
It's alright. I really hope obs thought I was townie, though. I think anyone who's played with me a decent number of times would not have suspected me for some of the stuff you were on my about. But I can understand some bits of the read in a vacuum.

Stuff like me going a little nuts, not knowing who to believe, and wanting to lynch outside the cops when we have great odds and some reads (seriously, super pro town plan imo), is either not indicative of my alignment or townie. I haven't really done any weird stuff in thread as mafia.

Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 12 2013 03:20 GMT
#6057
I still think the plan was bad because it would not reduce the suspect pool and Solstice was quite obviously mafia (to me at least, i know Koshi pretty well and he was soooo town). It would be like saying "you guys can still make cases against Koshi/rayn/Oats and noone can call you out for it" -> give mafia (and town too) possibilities to look into wrong places for no reason (as CR would not have flipped Banger).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 12 2013 03:20 GMT
#6058
But yeah, damn your reads were spot on this game. Well played!
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 12 2013 03:23 GMT
#6059
On October 12 2013 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Eh, i really dont care anymore. In any other game i would be fighting so hard in this situation. In noir mini and nomination and aperture, i was so active end game, and the former two i was making cases and huge posts all over the place.

Problem is, I don't care. It's difficult to care when your teammate CLAIMED SCUM for absolutely no reason. Like, even despite having 4 confirmed towns and night actions being retarded, we still had a chance. CR claimed because he thought he would get lynched no matter what... DIDNT EVEN FIGHT JUST ROLLED OVER. We could have easily pushed austin off a cliff by lynch, or i could have bussed him for towncred etc. nope. claim scum, gg. Like wtf... basically ruined any chance we had at winning here.

didnt even consult me in the QT.

So im not going to bother trying, don't care. Games over. I'm pretty salty about CR, game could use a few choice balance tweaks like weed costing a whole kp, but overall was fun.

Btw we all thought oats was last mafia pre confirm. I dont remember why we did the payphone thing but it sounded epic to me, and not being able to 100% deal with cop was kinda bad, putting night actions a coin flip.

I shot SnB by random yolo shot :3

I could have won by pushing austin and then convincing wos to vote vayne or something, but i stopped caring when cr claimed. S0lstice played like a champ though, what a boss. This is a formal concession, end game please.

GG Cheese.
The payphone thing being fake did seem a very 'you' thing to try.
You guys definitely had a chance if not for the scumclaims. CR, please get some coaching before your next game imo---a little pressure from us was absolutely no reason to give up.

GG all! Austin, for a guy trying so fucking hard I think it's hilarious you remained a top scum choice all game for so many people.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 12 2013 03:25 GMT
#6060
Funny thing is at least i didn't think CR was scum at that point..
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