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On September 05 2013 08:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
hapa, yamato, rayn
I won't lynch any of them today.
Why the particularly strong feelings on Yamato?
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On September 05 2013 08:08 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 08:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
hapa, yamato, rayn
I won't lynch any of them today. Why the particularly strong feelings on Yamato?
As scum I think he'd be fucking off right about now. The way he's handling a situation where town is nearly fucked is very town-yamato-ish.
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On September 05 2013 08:14 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 08:08 Hapahauli wrote:On September 05 2013 08:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
hapa, yamato, rayn
I won't lynch any of them today. Why the particularly strong feelings on Yamato? As scum I think he'd be fucking off right about now. The way he's handling a situation where town is nearly fucked is very town-yamato-ish.
To play devil's advocate, he really hasn't been all that present in the thread all game.
Also, town-yamato-ish is much more active than what he's doing right now. In what ways does his specific behaviors point to his townie persona?
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On September 05 2013 08:01 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, you and thrawn mostly. I have not played with thrawn before this.
By calling me bad i mean not telling why my arguments are bad but rather just give the thread the impression "this guy is wrong and does not know what he is talking about" or not answering my arguments at all and the accusing me of shitting up the thread when i try to explain what i mean. I have never seen marv do this before. He is a guy who usually is willing to listen to me and if he thinks i am wrong he tells me where i am going wrong and why. His D1 play regarding me--thrawn was completely different from what it usually is. Can you elaborate on the marv bit? GIve us something concrete, and I think it would definetely warrant a response from marv. I will say that I think the difference might be due to your suspicion on him this game (to which he generally does not respond well).
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On August 30 2013 19:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2013 18:58 marvellosity wrote:
Not unless you plan on seriously pushing his lynch and garnering support for it, no. I don't really see the point
You really think his contributions don't look natural/sincere? No it's easy to look natural and sincere in case you know anything about how to play as mafia. It's also easy to accuse Hopeless at this point because he is being dumb. My problem with Tutankoopa is that there is nothing that suggests that he is here to find mafia. It's more that he is here to chat with people and give some half-arsed opinions & answers when being questioned. He already clarified he is a smurf, and you draw from that he would not play "this good" as scum? I disagree completely with the bolded. On Day 1 especially it's how I go about getting most of my townreads (and meta). There's approximately a 0.1% chance I'll lynch him today, if you come up with some mindbendingly good case. I'd lynch Oats way before i'd lynch Tuten today, for one
Marv answers only something both me and him know i am right on. He does not comment on anything else i point out in my post (agreed, it's not his job to defend thrawn, but when he has started, why not go on then and reason himself).
On August 30 2013 20:55 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, this looks like a pretty bad case of blowing something small out of all proportion.
That's a false statement. When i ask him about it:
On August 30 2013 21:01 marvellosity wrote:
It's an irrelevancy. Like, you're accusing him of dodging something that didn't even matter in the first place.
That's also false. The point of my Oats/Hopeless questions was to find out thrawn's thought process. It's irrelevant if he was wrong/right/whatever, i wanted to know why he was asking stuff he was, and why he had reached the conclusions he had. After this, thrawn's thought process fails - he gives different answers to same questions when i point out the holes in his answers. This is what marv has to say about my case:
On August 30 2013 22:19 marvellosity wrote:
rayn get off this tunnel now.
It seems blatantly obvious Tutan is trying to be rational and engage with you, and you're just nitpicking.
stop.
On August 30 2013 22:24 marvellosity wrote:
no because it's retarded and i'm really fucking bored of it.
Like, "thrawn is being reasonable because he is talking with you and your case is bad". That's it? That's all?
Nothing about why my case is bad. Why does thrawn wanting to defend himself make him town?
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On September 05 2013 08:16 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 08:14 thrawn2112 wrote:On September 05 2013 08:08 Hapahauli wrote:On September 05 2013 08:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
hapa, yamato, rayn
I won't lynch any of them today. Why the particularly strong feelings on Yamato? As scum I think he'd be fucking off right about now. The way he's handling a situation where town is nearly fucked is very town-yamato-ish. To play devil's advocate, he really hasn't been all that present in the thread all game. Also, town-yamato-ish is much more active than what he's doing right now. In what ways does his specific behaviors point to his townie persona?
Him not being active is part of that read. As town I've seen him mess around until town is screwed, then come back to the thread acting as if he's going to be the one to solve the game.
Yeah the recent activity is not as much as I remember it being in past games, but overall his approach to the game feels much more like town than scum yamato, so much that he's not an acceptable D3 lynch.
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On September 05 2013 08:21 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 08:16 Hapahauli wrote:On September 05 2013 08:14 thrawn2112 wrote:On September 05 2013 08:08 Hapahauli wrote:On September 05 2013 08:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
hapa, yamato, rayn
I won't lynch any of them today. Why the particularly strong feelings on Yamato? As scum I think he'd be fucking off right about now. The way he's handling a situation where town is nearly fucked is very town-yamato-ish. To play devil's advocate, he really hasn't been all that present in the thread all game. Also, town-yamato-ish is much more active than what he's doing right now. In what ways does his specific behaviors point to his townie persona? Him not being active is part of that read. As town I've seen him mess around until town is screwed, then come back to the thread acting as if he's going to be the one to solve the game. Yeah the recent activity is not as much as I remember it being in past games, but overall his approach to the game feels much more like town than scum yamato, so much that he's not an acceptable D3 lynch.
So you have 3 unacceptable lynches (of which I believe you all think are town-reads), you yourself will maintain that you're town.
That probably leaves 3 scum of the next 4 players. Who's your scumteam? Or if that's too specific, who are you leaning strongest scum on? Who are you wavering the most on?
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On September 05 2013 08:05 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with yamato is that when i read the 4 Persona scum chat mafia's reasoning for killing me was "you can't mislynch rayn", from yamato. In that game i had lynched a town parity cop on D1 and had a red check on me. Still yamato wanted to hit me. That does not go to his scum meta (why would he be accusing me here given that comment?), but i also understand he has to play very differently and try hard if he wants to survive amongst people in this game in case he is scum.
His recent actions point towards him scum, and if he is unable to reasonably explain them i want to lynch him. Because right now he is not making any sense to me. Well you kinda beat me to it (and I was hoping to get some response from yamato before it), but yeah I think Yamato is town. Him going after you like this makes very little sense with how he generally plays scum. Also, him vocally questioning my doctor claim strikes me as absurd confirmation bias as opposed to malicious. My scumteam right now is probably Onegu/Sylencia, and I'm a bit lost on the third. I would say marv or sn0, relaly not sure.
I don't think Onegu is scum. He had his good post about Sno on N2 and when i was questioning him on his FT meta read the response i got in the end was really genuine.
I also do not think Sno is scum. I do not know what he would do with me if he was scum, but his stance on me seems like the same than when he is town.
Yamato needs to explain himself. Sylencia is a good lynch. Marv and Thrawn too. One of those guys is probably town and others are scum.
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On September 05 2013 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 08:05 Hapahauli wrote:On September 05 2013 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with yamato is that when i read the 4 Persona scum chat mafia's reasoning for killing me was "you can't mislynch rayn", from yamato. In that game i had lynched a town parity cop on D1 and had a red check on me. Still yamato wanted to hit me. That does not go to his scum meta (why would he be accusing me here given that comment?), but i also understand he has to play very differently and try hard if he wants to survive amongst people in this game in case he is scum.
His recent actions point towards him scum, and if he is unable to reasonably explain them i want to lynch him. Because right now he is not making any sense to me. Well you kinda beat me to it (and I was hoping to get some response from yamato before it), but yeah I think Yamato is town. Him going after you like this makes very little sense with how he generally plays scum. Also, him vocally questioning my doctor claim strikes me as absurd confirmation bias as opposed to malicious. My scumteam right now is probably Onegu/Sylencia, and I'm a bit lost on the third. I would say marv or sn0, relaly not sure. I don't think Onegu is scum. He had his good post about Sno on N2 and when i was questioning him on his FT meta read the response i got in the end was really genuine.
Which post in particular? My general opinion of Onegu is that his play has been incredibly detatched.
I also do not think Sno is scum. I do not know what he would do with me if he was scum, but his stance on me seems like the same than when he is town.
Sn0 is my null-read right now. I'd need much more time with him.
Yamato needs to explain himself. Sylencia is a good lynch. Marv and Thrawn too. One of those guys is probably town and others are scum.
Agree on syl, not sold on Thrawn.
Marv's absence is troubling.
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These are the posts i am talking about:
On September 02 2013 23:24 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 01 2013 11:09 Hapahauli wrote:On September 01 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:On September 01 2013 10:04 sciberbia wrote:
Anything in particular you want to discuss right now while the rest of the thread seems to be afk? onegu TK, what are your thoughts on the claims by Debears and Rayn? As for Onegu, I really don't understand your case against him. Onegu apparently thought FT was scum, and his explanation about it (having played a ton of games with a visibly different town FT) makes sense. What precludes Onegu from finding multiple players suspicious and voting his top scumread (FT)? Hapahauli how does TK's case on Onegu make no sense? Being played with someone a lot does not make you good at meta-reading them. Onegu has never played in a game where FirmTofu has been mafia! That's like the basis of a meta-read. FirmTofu has been inactive before (see GoT). It does not make him mafia, yet Onegu suggests it is "nothing like FT's town games". Guess what, it's also nothing like his scumgame either.. That's why Onegu's "meta-read" makes zero sense. Why actually you do not understand TK's case on Onegu? Ok I sent a PM to the hosts and syl (hope thats not illegal/cheating) if I could talk about FT in P4 when we talking about I have never seen his scum play, and since at the time he hadnt flipped and the game wasnt over they told me I couldnt. But now that the game is over I have seen FT play scum, it had no resemblence to this game, but my main point about his meta with me was I have seen him play lurky town in GoT and in that game he still made reads on people just not many, and when he came back he defended himself and posted his reads for his post death flip, he did none of those things this game. While sounding like a broken record, his meta wasnt the only reason I voted for him. His play and lack of interest was also scummy. He deserved to die and I would have done it again because he was playing scummy and against his meta. The only thing I said to syl in the PM was can I talk about FT in persona, and his answer was no, the game is ongoing. Sorry if this is against the rules or cheating. I just wanted to know if I could talk about it.
Do you think Onegu would make a post like this if he was mafia? I don't.
On September 03 2013 19:05 Onegu wrote:Going in order of posts to expand on my sn0 question. First Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
TBH I'm not sure who is a better vote than Alakaslam right now anyway. I'm willing to lynch oats but I feel like that its more intelligent to leave him around a bit longer, get more info out of him.
Sylencia is another option, although apart from his very early stuff that has been done to bits I don't see what else would incriminate him.
I'm not sure who else is a real candidate. Onegu is playing as I expect him to, which might be unfortunate but really doesn't make me want to lynch him. None of Marv/Hapa/Yam are remotely lynchable at this point. Sciberbia picked it up a ton.
Actually reading Tofu makes me plenty happy to lynch him, although at the same time I really question a scummer posting that lol.
I don't think koopa is a real lynch. If nothing else he's been reasonable to rayn, quite above and beyond the call. Which leaves bears but I once again feel that he deserves at least another day.
TL;DR: I still wanna lynch Alakaslam.
PS: maybe it wasn't clear, but I read most of yesterday and essentially never bothered posting once hapa got going because he was saying pretty much everything I thought about the thread. Only substantially more eloquently. Wants to lynch Alakaslam as he is the best lynch option, is ok with a FT lynch. Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:54 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 30 2013 23:50 yamato77 wrote:
##Vote: FirmTofu
Heads or Tails? I'm actually getting more interested in taking this approach, mostly to be fair to alakaslam since replacing in as the prime lynch candidate with 8 hours to lynch is horrendously unfair. Wants to give slam a chance and move onto FT Not sure but I think this is him backing off of FT because his next post is. Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 00:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
Changed my mind. After a read-through of Syl's filter I detect implied guilt, uselessness and a solid amount of completely unecessary apologetics (okay thats a fancy way of saying implied guilt).
I could lynch that guy too if it comes to that.
Current lynchee's I'd vote for:
Alakaslam
Sylencia Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Erm, and probably tofu. I disagree that full lurkers are *never* scum, although I admit its probably not useful enough to lynch him right now. Still, I could lynch him right now. These posts go together. Not a complete back off of FT but he first says Slam and Syl are the main lynches he would choose. Then FT if he had to. Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
Continuing what hapa says, this coin flips at a rate of around 75% town simply due to probability.
Yes he needs to not play like this but lynching him isn't really the best choice day 1. I'd need a lot of shining beacons of towniness everywhere else to lynch tofu right now, although if he shows up and doesn't improve that could change. But now a almost complete back off of FT. Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 05:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well as far as I'm concerned all of a sudden we have too many reasonable lynches lol (aka our votes are spread already :/).
Syl/FT/Alakaslam are all people I'd lynch plus we have a fair portion tunnelled on koopa.
Since not having my vote on anybody makes it a bit harder for consolidation, I'm going to
##Vote: Alakaslam
however I'm currently quite willing to be convinced on any of those 3. Finally puts his vote down on slam, but back to being ok with a FT lynch. Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 05:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
PS Sciberbia or debears wanted to know why oats isn't on my list (forget who).
Mostly its because I feel like if we give oats a bit more rope he could hang himself with it. I feel like I'll get a reasonable read on him given time whereas I'm not convinced my read on say FirmTofu is gonna advance so well and I find tofu just as scummy. Why lynch somebody who will eventually become transparent? Now oats is scummy, but earlier he said the reason oats was scummy was 100% meta. Also here he talks about FT is just as scummy. Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
Alright I can do the tofu lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: FirmTofu
I don't think that slam deserves to live but it makes more sense to consolidate etc etc. Hilarity has its upsides as well. Off of slam and right onto FT. While of course earlier it was unfair to lynch slam, but now he doesnt deserve to live. Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 08:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hmmm weekends suck.
I've read most everything, and I feel like for now Oats is the person I'm interested in most. He just doesn't feel like the town-presence oats I expect. If he's town I should *know* it by now. I'm not even getting close to a town vibe from him and his excuses are shit like "you guys only think i'm scum because I don't have a 10 page filter" which is a terrible excuse.
Rayn is wildly full of shit but I've known that since like minutes into D1. It feels anti-town but it did last game too and he flipped town. I still kinda wanna kill him though.
I still feel like Onegu is a poor lynch *but* its possible that because he feels like he is stepping up his game what that really means is he is getting some pushes from the scumqt or whatever. He bears watching but I'm not too interested in his lynch yet.
Most everybody else has a read ranging from null to town so I don't feel the need to discuss them.
FWIW I doubt there is an SK in this setup simply because the points mechanic would be even harder to balance with an SK thrown in. Now oats is his main scum read. Is willing to kill rayn and now I need to be looked at because I am upping my game?! But no mention of Alakaslam who deserved to die. Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 08:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
oh yeah forgot Alakaslam he looks awful but not inherently scummy. I'd be interested in lynching him if osmebody could come up with a case that made him look scummy not retarded. Really I think I need to go over how the lynch went down yesterday because I'm pretty sure there was a scum candidate in there somehwere. Realizes he forgot alakaslam, but now he needs convinced alakaslam is scum not just retarted. Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 06:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hmmm apologies all for nonexistant activity. Weekends and all that.
Lets lynch oats. Hapa seems like a terrible lynch. Slam is an acceptable substitute but I don't feel like we are learning as much if we lynch him. He feels coinflippy whereas Oats feels scummy.
##Vote: Oatsmaster Votes oats but says slam is a acceptable subsitute but we get more info from a oats lynch?!? And then we dont hear from him again. TLDR; sn0 is insanely wishy washy on alakaslam going from he should die to he shouldnt die its unfair to he deserves to die again to Ill only vote for him if someone convinces me he is scum. It really looks like some light bussing then defense if things get to hot. Alakaslam/sn0 scum team.
This is a good post imo. It has thinking behind it and it comes to a conclusion. Conclusion at that time seemed good imo.
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Notice that yamato basically made the exact same read on Sno at the exact same time. Now Sno is town and Onegu is scum for yamato. Why?
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On September 05 2013 08:24 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 08:21 thrawn2112 wrote:On September 05 2013 08:16 Hapahauli wrote:On September 05 2013 08:14 thrawn2112 wrote:On September 05 2013 08:08 Hapahauli wrote:On September 05 2013 08:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
hapa, yamato, rayn
I won't lynch any of them today. Why the particularly strong feelings on Yamato? As scum I think he'd be fucking off right about now. The way he's handling a situation where town is nearly fucked is very town-yamato-ish. To play devil's advocate, he really hasn't been all that present in the thread all game. Also, town-yamato-ish is much more active than what he's doing right now. In what ways does his specific behaviors point to his townie persona? Him not being active is part of that read. As town I've seen him mess around until town is screwed, then come back to the thread acting as if he's going to be the one to solve the game. Yeah the recent activity is not as much as I remember it being in past games, but overall his approach to the game feels much more like town than scum yamato, so much that he's not an acceptable D3 lynch. So you have 3 unacceptable lynches (of which I believe you all think are town-reads), you yourself will maintain that you're town. That probably leaves 3 scum of the next 4 players. Who's your scumteam? Or if that's too specific, who are you leaning strongest scum on? Who are you wavering the most on?
Yep, currently looking at marv, sno, onegu, and sylencia.
I really don't know who I'd pick as town from that group. I would be completely for lynching onegu had he not made that post about pms. I'm having trouble seeing why he would post that as mafia and I *might* say he's my most confident town read. Syl I just haven't read in awhile. Sno said some pretty scummy things earlier which I'm going to get to in a later post. Marv has been giving me increasingly worrying feelings all game and I think he and Sno are who I'd be most confident with lynching. It's unnerving when marv is alive at what seems to be mylo and has not been targeted by kp or anything yet. I'm paranoid about how he was soft-pushing my Onegu case during D2. He was supportive of it as far as saying that it was a good case but I never got the feeling that he really cared to help me push it. I have yet to go through syl's stuff so I'll make a case on my top one or two lynch candidates after I've done that. Right now those are marv/sn0.
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Some nitpicking:
On September 05 2013 08:40 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 08:24 Hapahauli wrote:On September 05 2013 08:21 thrawn2112 wrote:On September 05 2013 08:16 Hapahauli wrote:On September 05 2013 08:14 thrawn2112 wrote:On September 05 2013 08:08 Hapahauli wrote:On September 05 2013 08:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
hapa, yamato, rayn
I won't lynch any of them today. Why the particularly strong feelings on Yamato? As scum I think he'd be fucking off right about now. The way he's handling a situation where town is nearly fucked is very town-yamato-ish. To play devil's advocate, he really hasn't been all that present in the thread all game. Also, town-yamato-ish is much more active than what he's doing right now. In what ways does his specific behaviors point to his townie persona? Him not being active is part of that read. As town I've seen him mess around until town is screwed, then come back to the thread acting as if he's going to be the one to solve the game. Yeah the recent activity is not as much as I remember it being in past games, but overall his approach to the game feels much more like town than scum yamato, so much that he's not an acceptable D3 lynch. So you have 3 unacceptable lynches (of which I believe you all think are town-reads), you yourself will maintain that you're town. That probably leaves 3 scum of the next 4 players. Who's your scumteam? Or if that's too specific, who are you leaning strongest scum on? Who are you wavering the most on? Yep, currently looking at marv, sno, onegu, and sylencia. I really don't know who I'd pick as town from that group. I would be completely for lynching onegu had he not made that post about pms. I'm having trouble seeing why he would post that as mafia and I *might* say he's my most confident town read.
Explain please?
Syl I just haven't read in awhile. ...
I have yet to go through syl's stuff so I'll make a case on my top one or two lynch candidates after I've done that. Right now those are marv/sn0.
Get back to me on Syl.
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[QUOTE]On September 05 2013 08:42 Hapahauli wrote:
Some nitpicking:
[QUOTE]On September 05 2013 08:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 05 2013 08:24 Hapahauli wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 05 2013 08:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 05 2013 08:16 Hapahauli wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 05 2013 08:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 05 2013 08:08 Hapahauli wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 05 2013 08:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
hapa, yamato, rayn
I won't lynch any of them today. [/QUOTE]
Why the particularly strong feelings on Yamato?[/QUOTE]
As scum I think he'd be fucking off right about now. The way he's handling a situation where town is nearly fucked is very town-yamato-ish.
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To play devil's advocate, he really hasn't been all that present in the thread all game.
Also, town-yamato-ish is much more active than what he's doing right now. In what ways does his specific behaviors point to his townie persona?[/QUOTE]
Him not being active is part of that read. As town I've seen him mess around until town is screwed, then come back to the thread acting as if he's going to be the one to solve the game.
Yeah the recent activity is not as much as I remember it being in past games, but overall his approach to the game feels much more like town than scum yamato, so much that he's not an acceptable D3 lynch.[/QUOTE]
So you have 3 unacceptable lynches (of which I believe you all think are town-reads), you yourself will maintain that you're town.
That probably leaves 3 scum of the next 4 players. Who's your scumteam? Or if that's too specific, who are you leaning strongest scum on? Who are you wavering the most on?[/QUOTE]
Yep, currently looking at marv, sno, onegu, and sylencia.
I really don't know who I'd pick as town from that group. I would be completely for lynching onegu had he not made that post about pms. I'm having trouble seeing why he would post that as mafia and I *might* say he's my most confident town read.[/Quote]
Explain please?
Because what he did was essentially cheating which is a pretty townie action in my experience.
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No, I mean where is that PM thing? I don't know what you're talking about
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On September 02 2013 23:24 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 01 2013 11:09 Hapahauli wrote:On September 01 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:On September 01 2013 10:04 sciberbia wrote:
Anything in particular you want to discuss right now while the rest of the thread seems to be afk? onegu TK, what are your thoughts on the claims by Debears and Rayn? As for Onegu, I really don't understand your case against him. Onegu apparently thought FT was scum, and his explanation about it (having played a ton of games with a visibly different town FT) makes sense. What precludes Onegu from finding multiple players suspicious and voting his top scumread (FT)? Hapahauli how does TK's case on Onegu make no sense? Being played with someone a lot does not make you good at meta-reading them. Onegu has never played in a game where FirmTofu has been mafia! That's like the basis of a meta-read. FirmTofu has been inactive before (see GoT). It does not make him mafia, yet Onegu suggests it is "nothing like FT's town games". Guess what, it's also nothing like his scumgame either.. That's why Onegu's "meta-read" makes zero sense. Why actually you do not understand TK's case on Onegu? Ok I sent a PM to the hosts and syl (hope thats not illegal/cheating) if I could talk about FT in P4 when we talking about I have never seen his scum play, and since at the time he hadnt flipped and the game wasnt over they told me I couldnt. But now that the game is over I have seen FT play scum, it had no resemblence to this game, but my main point about his meta with me was I have seen him play lurky town in GoT and in that game he still made reads on people just not many, and when he came back he defended himself and posted his reads for his post death flip, he did none of those things this game. While sounding like a broken record, his meta wasnt the only reason I voted for him. His play and lack of interest was also scummy. He deserved to die and I would have done it again because he was playing scummy and against his meta. The only thing I said to syl in the PM was can I talk about FT in persona, and his answer was no, the game is ongoing. Sorry if this is against the rules or cheating. I just wanted to know if I could talk about it.
right hurr
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On September 05 2013 08:49 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 23:24 Onegu wrote:On September 02 2013 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 01 2013 11:09 Hapahauli wrote:On September 01 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:On September 01 2013 10:04 sciberbia wrote:
Anything in particular you want to discuss right now while the rest of the thread seems to be afk? onegu TK, what are your thoughts on the claims by Debears and Rayn? As for Onegu, I really don't understand your case against him. Onegu apparently thought FT was scum, and his explanation about it (having played a ton of games with a visibly different town FT) makes sense. What precludes Onegu from finding multiple players suspicious and voting his top scumread (FT)? Hapahauli how does TK's case on Onegu make no sense? Being played with someone a lot does not make you good at meta-reading them. Onegu has never played in a game where FirmTofu has been mafia! That's like the basis of a meta-read. FirmTofu has been inactive before (see GoT). It does not make him mafia, yet Onegu suggests it is "nothing like FT's town games". Guess what, it's also nothing like his scumgame either.. That's why Onegu's "meta-read" makes zero sense. Why actually you do not understand TK's case on Onegu? Ok I sent a PM to the hosts and syl (hope thats not illegal/cheating) if I could talk about FT in P4 when we talking about I have never seen his scum play, and since at the time he hadnt flipped and the game wasnt over they told me I couldnt. But now that the game is over I have seen FT play scum, it had no resemblence to this game, but my main point about his meta with me was I have seen him play lurky town in GoT and in that game he still made reads on people just not many, and when he came back he defended himself and posted his reads for his post death flip, he did none of those things this game. While sounding like a broken record, his meta wasnt the only reason I voted for him. His play and lack of interest was also scummy. He deserved to die and I would have done it again because he was playing scummy and against his meta. The only thing I said to syl in the PM was can I talk about FT in persona, and his answer was no, the game is ongoing. Sorry if this is against the rules or cheating. I just wanted to know if I could talk about it. right hurr
I can see getting townie-vibes from that, but nothign particularly robust. It's natural for anyone to talk about the subject (PM'ing the host about discussion of an ongoing game), especially if it pertains to your suspicions and defense of said suspicion after a mislynch.
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Also Rayn, one of your scumreads is in the thread posting right now - pretty good opportunity to talk to him >>
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On September 05 2013 08:52 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 08:49 thrawn2112 wrote:On September 02 2013 23:24 Onegu wrote:On September 02 2013 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 01 2013 11:09 Hapahauli wrote:On September 01 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:On September 01 2013 10:04 sciberbia wrote:
Anything in particular you want to discuss right now while the rest of the thread seems to be afk? onegu TK, what are your thoughts on the claims by Debears and Rayn? As for Onegu, I really don't understand your case against him. Onegu apparently thought FT was scum, and his explanation about it (having played a ton of games with a visibly different town FT) makes sense. What precludes Onegu from finding multiple players suspicious and voting his top scumread (FT)? Hapahauli how does TK's case on Onegu make no sense? Being played with someone a lot does not make you good at meta-reading them. Onegu has never played in a game where FirmTofu has been mafia! That's like the basis of a meta-read. FirmTofu has been inactive before (see GoT). It does not make him mafia, yet Onegu suggests it is "nothing like FT's town games". Guess what, it's also nothing like his scumgame either.. That's why Onegu's "meta-read" makes zero sense. Why actually you do not understand TK's case on Onegu? Ok I sent a PM to the hosts and syl (hope thats not illegal/cheating) if I could talk about FT in P4 when we talking about I have never seen his scum play, and since at the time he hadnt flipped and the game wasnt over they told me I couldnt. But now that the game is over I have seen FT play scum, it had no resemblence to this game, but my main point about his meta with me was I have seen him play lurky town in GoT and in that game he still made reads on people just not many, and when he came back he defended himself and posted his reads for his post death flip, he did none of those things this game. While sounding like a broken record, his meta wasnt the only reason I voted for him. His play and lack of interest was also scummy. He deserved to die and I would have done it again because he was playing scummy and against his meta. The only thing I said to syl in the PM was can I talk about FT in persona, and his answer was no, the game is ongoing. Sorry if this is against the rules or cheating. I just wanted to know if I could talk about it. right hurr I can see getting townie-vibes from that, but nothign particularly robust. It's natural for anyone to talk about the subject (PM'ing the host about discussion of an ongoing game), especially if it pertains to your suspicions and defense of said suspicion after a mislynch.
He pm'd syl a question directly related to this game... that's natural?
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Oh he PM'd syl.
Didn't catch that. That's kinda wierd.
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I'll have to think about that some.
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Why would he PM syl of all people though>?
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