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@ Yamato
When you get back, I need an answer to the following:
1) How is it that your Sn0 read is so different from yesterday?
2) Your votecount analysis seems really shallow. You spend zero time looking into the context of those posts and take them all at face value. You should realize that voting has been chaotic and wishy-washy as a whole this game.
3) I really don't understand the complete inability for us to have a conversation this game. For example, this post...On September 03 2013 08:32 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:On September 03 2013 08:22 yamato77 wrote:On September 03 2013 08:16 Hapahauli wrote:On September 03 2013 08:15 yamato77 wrote:On September 03 2013 07:57 sciberbia wrote:
@yamato
Were you ever planning on helping me lynch your SCUMREAD oats? This is why I pushed Hapascum Nobody listen to scumhunter extraodinaire Yams who is so good he's already dead in Aperture So are you going to talk to me about this scumread or not? I saw your response. I am not impressed. I don't think you read my posts too deeply if you think that was the only point against you. Well your other point is that "I spent no time discussion lynch targets", which I find to be pretty false given that I led the consolidation at the end of today (even if it was a mislynch). I was on the fence for most of the day because I've been pretty damn lost this game read wise. Normally I can tunnel a player and get the information I want, but players like yourself, Oats, Alakasam, Onegu, and others I need posts from either are horrendously inactive or absent from the thread when I'm here or something. SO yeah, my current view on the game is that scum is somewhere in the lurkers and that we have a circle-jerk of active townies who are willing to post. And that's a problem given how many goddamn inactives there are. As for my read on you... well what's wrong about it? You've been useless to your own admission this game: On September 02 2013 10:04 yamato77 wrote:On September 02 2013 09:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Yamato, why are you being so useless this game? Is this a work-related thing? Because I've never seen a town-game from you where you've had such abysmal thread-presence. I really haven't played town in a while, and certainly not with this group of players who I mostly find difficult to read. Generally, it's easy enough for me to get some townreads and go from there, but I have too many question marks and not enough time to really pin them all down. @scib I will give those reads, probably in the morning. I am unfortunately out of time right now. ... and I'm at a loss what to think of you. You're asleep/working when I'm active in the thread, and tunnel me when I'm gone. I'll be on for a while tonight. If you're town, we'll resolve this.
...you made after you posted your case against me, seemingly promising to show some effort and talk to me. Instead you fucked off, did god knows what, and came back the next morning and tunneled me while I was gone.
You seemed so much more interested in calling me scum than actually trying to determine my allignment.
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Oh yeah, and have a better explanation for your vote on Rayn, because it seems entirely based on his 180 on you and some very shallow vote-post analysis.
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Vote Count
raynpelikoneet (1) debears yamato77
Hapahauli (0) raynpelikoneet
yamato77 (1) raynpelikoneet
not voting (6) Sylencia Onegu Sn0_Man Hapahauli thrawn2112 marvellosity
yamato77 is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
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I am not going against people who criticize me. I don't give a fuck if someone thinks i am not worth listening.
I go against arguments that are wrong. Yes, in Persona i mislynched on D1, after that i never had my vote on a townie in that game. I never accused a townie after that in the game (besides Sno_man). I didn't even get mad on Sno_man who refused to talk to me when i was trying to have a civilized conversation with him. On N2 I gave my resoning on the scum in the game that was right. Only thing i was not sure of was Sno_man.
So comments like "I don't need to get into shouting matches regarding awful lynches since nobody is dumb enough to listen to rayn very much" i do not understand. Nobody ever gave me good reasons why thrawn is town D1. PEople just called my case bad, called me dumb, and thrawn town. It still remains a mystery to me why?
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On September 05 2013 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not going against people who criticize me. I don't give a fuck if someone thinks i am not worth listening.
I go against arguments that are wrong. Yes, in Persona i mislynched on D1, after that i never had my vote on a townie in that game. I never accused a townie after that in the game (besides Sno_man). I didn't even get mad on Sno_man who refused to talk to me when i was trying to have a civilized conversation with him. On N2 I gave my resoning on the scum in the game that was right. Only thing i was not sure of was Sno_man.
So comments like "I don't need to get into shouting matches regarding awful lynches since nobody is dumb enough to listen to rayn very much" i do not understand. Nobody ever gave me good reasons why thrawn is town D1. PEople just called my case bad, called me dumb, and thrawn town. It still remains a mystery to me why?
I'm genuinely curious about this Rayn (and it's in no way an insult or anything) - but how often do scum tunnel you and/or are vocally suspicious of you in town games you play?
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Usually scum call me bad. Recent examples of these are FirmTofu & yamato in 4 Persona. FirmTofu and Corazon in Titanic.
Or i get killed N1/N2. Last time scum tried to tunnel me was Ace in NWM N1. Didn't work out, too bad nobody realized he was scum.
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EBWOP: They call me bad for wanting to lynch someone who does not get lynched and the they say "rayn has been wrong all game" when the guy i have accused has not even flipped..
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On September 05 2013 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Usually scum call me bad. Recent examples of these are FirmTofu & yamato in 4 Persona. FirmTofu and Corazon in Titanic.
Or i get killed N1/N2. Last time scum tried to tunnel me was Ace in NWM N1. Didn't work out, too bad nobody realized he was scum.
Who's been calling you bad this game?
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and recently Sno. He does that as town though, given 4 Persona.
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On September 05 2013 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv.
Hmmm ok. Though I suspect he calls you bad as town too
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But as for where I was leading with all this, I suspect that scum look at you and generally want to leave you doing your own thing.
So they either poke you with "bad" comments and are dismissive of you or ignore you all together.
I'll double check this tonight, but who are people who have interacted at length with you this game?
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marv, you and thrawn mostly. I have not played with thrawn before this.
By calling me bad i mean not telling why my arguments are bad but rather just give the thread the impression "this guy is wrong and does not know what he is talking about" or not answering my arguments at all and the accusing me of shitting up the thread when i try to explain what i mean. I have never seen marv do this before. He is a guy who usually is willing to listen to me and if he thinks i am wrong he tells me where i am going wrong and why. His D1 play regarding me--thrawn was completely different from what it usually is.
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On September 05 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, you and thrawn mostly. I have not played with thrawn before this.
By calling me bad i mean not telling why my arguments are bad but rather just give the thread the impression "this guy is wrong and does not know what he is talking about" or not answering my arguments at all and the accusing me of shitting up the thread when i try to explain what i mean. I have never seen marv do this before. He is a guy who usually is willing to listen to me and if he thinks i am wrong he tells me where i am going wrong and why. His D1 play regarding me--thrawn was completely different from what it usually is.
Can you elaborate on the marv bit?
GIve us something concrete, and I think it would definetely warrant a response from marv.
I will say that I think the difference might be due to your suspicion on him this game (to which he generally does not respond well).
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Also, that's one of the reasons why I think Thrawn is town.
Do you think he'd really entertain your suspicions on him for that long? He was remarkably patient with you considering how up-in-his-face you were on D1.
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My problem with yamato is that when i read the 4 Persona scum chat mafia's reasoning for killing me was "you can't mislynch rayn", from yamato. In that game i had lynched a town parity cop on D1 and had a red check on me. Still yamato wanted to hit me. That does not go to his scum meta (why would he be accusing me here given that comment?), but i also understand he has to play very differently and try hard if he wants to survive amongst people in this game in case he is scum.
His recent actions point towards him scum, and if he is unable to reasonably explain them i want to lynch him. Because right now he is not making any sense to me.
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On September 05 2013 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with yamato is that when i read the 4 Persona scum chat mafia's reasoning for killing me was "you can't mislynch rayn", from yamato. In that game i had lynched a town parity cop on D1 and had a red check on me. Still yamato wanted to hit me. That does not go to his scum meta (why would he be accusing me here given that comment?), but i also understand he has to play very differently and try hard if he wants to survive amongst people in this game in case he is scum.
His recent actions point towards him scum, and if he is unable to reasonably explain them i want to lynch him. Because right now he is not making any sense to me.
Well you kinda beat me to it (and I was hoping to get some response from yamato before it), but yeah I think Yamato is town.
Him going after you like this makes very little sense with how he generally plays scum. Also, him vocally questioning my doctor claim strikes me as absurd confirmation bias as opposed to malicious.
My scumteam right now is probably Onegu/Sylencia, and I'm a bit lost on the third. I would say marv or sn0, relaly not sure.
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Thrawninator, lets work through your reads right now.
Thoughts on Yamato? (since we were just talking about him)
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hapa, yamato, rayn
I won't lynch any of them today.
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