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On August 28 2013 14:22 VayneAuthority wrote: For me koshi is actually SAM because he made the claim when only like half the game had posted so far. It seems too risky for a scum to do that when they are in no real danger at the chance of being CC'ed.
If he somehow got lucky then I can live with that...I don't mind being beaten by luck. This was actually my initial reasoning. Then, Onegu suggested that Koshi made a deliberate play to stay one step ahead of town. At first, it sounded ridiculous, but I'm starting to warm up to this theory. Koshi probably claimed to ensure that no one would ever check him and/or to ensure that a red check on him would be doubted immediately. If he were the framer, this would make even more sense. I don't think the framer can frame himself, so the only foolproof way to avoid being checked is to claim SAM.
Now that I think about it, it's all starting to make sense...
I feel like scum are playing us right now. Koshi is being extremely manipulative and intelligent. This reeks of his scum play.
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On August 28 2013 14:29 johnnywup wrote: @FT he was onto you guys so you didn't want to have an extra vote on you for no reason
@vayne it's not possible to have 2 SAMs? you can't really counterclaim a green role it has no power so there's not really any limit to how many there can be?
no, it's not. It's a semi-closed setup if you read =/ All power roles are individual people, so you can't have two of them. There only only be more than 1 of vanilla town and vanilla scum.
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On August 28 2013 14:30 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2013 14:29 johnnywup wrote: @FT he was onto you guys so you didn't want to have an extra vote on you for no reason
@vayne it's not possible to have 2 SAMs? you can't really counterclaim a green role it has no power so there's not really any limit to how many there can be? no, it's not. It's a semi-closed setup if you read =/ All power roles are individual people, so you can't have two of them. There only only be more than 1 of vanilla town and vanilla scum.
Setup: Semi-closed. You will know the roles, but not how many of each there will be.
you sure?
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On August 28 2013 14:30 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2013 14:29 johnnywup wrote: @FT he was onto you guys so you didn't want to have an extra vote on you for no reason
@vayne it's not possible to have 2 SAMs? you can't really counterclaim a green role it has no power so there's not really any limit to how many there can be? no, it's not. It's a semi-closed setup if you read =/ All power roles are individual people, so you can't have two of them. There only only be more than 1 of vanilla town and vanilla scum. I don't think that is correct, Vayne. Setup: Semi-closed. You will know the roles, but not how many of each there will be.
It clearly states we do not know how many of ANY roles there will be.
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Is it possible to have more than one Self-aware Miller in this setup?
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yea im positive. Look it'd be stupid if there was individual names for the power roles and there was two of them. That makes zero sense.
The specific name on the SAM but no specific name on miller kinda gives it away that there is probably one in the game.
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so you're telling me in a themed setup that Kanji Tatsumi is going to die, but then he's going to die again at a later time?
im going to have to disagree.
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Doesn't matter. We can discuss it after hosts confirm. What do you think about Koshi independently of the WoS check?
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obviously the hosts are going to say there is the possibility, but let's be real, there isn't.
uh well he's been wrong a lot but so have I so nothing really conclusive there. He seems to be trying to figure out the game, Idk
If I had to do 3 way lylo with him I could probably hammer him but that's about it
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You see, I was totally on board with the "Koshi BS'd his SAM claim for town cred" argument 3 days ago. Now... Well lets just say Tofu is proving himself willing to say literally anything that will avoid his lynch. Like seriously, he reeks of desperation and is willing to say *anything* to throw suspicion on anybody else.
If tofu wasn't so obviously scum he might have a point but reading Koshi's whole filter smells too much town.
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'Setup: Semi-closed. You will know the roles, but not how many of each there will be.' from the op
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As in, there are 3 scum left as far as we know, and Tofu is one.
The chances of Koshi being another are slim to nil given that Tofu is one.
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On August 28 2013 14:46 Sn0_Man wrote: You see, I was totally on board with the "Koshi BS'd his SAM claim for town cred" argument 3 days ago. Now... Well lets just say Tofu is proving himself willing to say literally anything that will avoid his lynch. Like seriously, he reeks of desperation and is willing to say *anything* to throw suspicion on anybody else.
If tofu wasn't so obviously scum he might have a point but reading Koshi's whole filter smells too much town. I'm trying to figure out the game. You are tunneling me to oblivion. I'm the desperate one here?
I gave you chance and you didn't take it. I will be ignoring you from now on.
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I'm not really talking to you atm anyway Tofu. I don't need to convince you you are scum. You are already aware of that fact. Some of town, on the other hand, seem to need some tips.
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##unvote ##vote yamato
I will be very fucking sad if this guy turns out to be town or even survivor. But I can't decide between Mr Snowman and FT yet. If you are survivor. You better bring 100% scumreads + cases with your claim.
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How red are you!
Yamato 95% FT 70% The Snowman 65% VA 60% Johnny 35% Rainbow 25% Kush 5% Lion King 0%
Good night sleep changed it around again. Mr Snowman played too bad before today. He could be red for his play this game, I fucking said it before when I read your fucking previous games, why can't you play untunneled from the fucking start.
FT should be red for his play though, but fuck it, guys that should flip red simply never do. Not saying that I wont lynch FT today, but fuck everything when you flip town FT. Your filter is a fucking monstrosity, your cases are fucking awful, only if Mr Snowman flips red you can at least say that your reads are somewhat decent.
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I use so much "fuck", but I am not angry. True story.
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Vote Count
yamato77: (2) kushm4sta, Koshi Koshi: (1) FirmTofu FirmTofu: (1) Sn0_Man Sn0_Man: (1) VayneAuthority No Vote: yamato77, Rainbows, johnnywup, mkfuba07
Currently, yamato77 is set to be lynched.
Next deadline: Deadline date: Thursday, Aug 29 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Vayne is right there can only be one Sam. There's not gonna be two people with the same japanese name.
Yamato Johhnywup Ft
That's who I'm thinking now but I wanna look into rainbows more at some point Ge
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