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SHIN remarks on potential last ever GSL season

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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1399 Posts
June 28 2024 05:35 GMT
#1
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12762 Posts
June 28 2024 07:39 GMT
#2
Thanks, interesting!
Albeit what gave me a chuckle was how SHIN, like other starcraft 2 players, like to box at random things when browsing the internet :D
I am not alone with that OCD thing that sc2 gave me
WriterMaru
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-28 12:16:22
June 28 2024 12:03 GMT
#3
If GSL tournament relocates to China, I don't think they have enough funds to bring the qualifying players from Korea to participate for a period of one month and longer stays. Perhaps, a joint collaboration might be ideal one.

Like having the first three and four weeks in Korea, while the remaining semifinal and final matches in China, for example. Hence, the costs of bringing Korean players can be mitigated while at the same time maximizing the live viewership from China.

Edit: I am okay as long as the basics which are the weekly preparation and the nature of offline tournament should be maintained.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33230 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-28 19:39:15
June 28 2024 19:35 GMT
#4
It's surprising that GSL has been held this long when absorption into ESL has felt like the 'obvious' move for a couple of years now. I guess there's some lingering loyalty from AfreecaTV, and it certainly helps that the crowdfunding has been successful as well.

Honestly, I think it would be theoretically okay to just retire the GSL, create EPT Korea, and try to channel that crowdfunding passion toward more grassroots-ish projects like a Korean HomeStory Cup-style event or other things of that nature. The problem, I guess, is that GSL is the only brand that can regularly rally people to cough up $40,000 a season, and that in itself is irreplaceable value in a shrinking scene.
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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1399 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-28 20:40:59
June 28 2024 20:37 GMT
#5
they are also selling GSL commemorative badges for this GSL

[image loading]


Maybe hints of it ending or maybe rebrand. Either way, they are doing what they normally don't do usually, so it's sus.
Regardless, GSL finals in less than 24 hrs, come watch it then.

shop link: https://shopfreeca.afreecatv.com/products/120846388
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4378 Posts
June 28 2024 20:44 GMT
#6
On June 29 2024 05:37 jinjin5000 wrote:
they are also selling GSL commemorative badges for this GSL

[image loading]


Maybe hints of it ending or maybe rebrand. Either way, they are doing what they normally don't do usually, so it's sus.
Regardless, GSL finals in less than 24 hrs, come watch it then.


Can I buy these from the US?
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1399 Posts
June 28 2024 20:45 GMT
#7
On June 29 2024 05:44 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2024 05:37 jinjin5000 wrote:
they are also selling GSL commemorative badges for this GSL

[image loading]


Maybe hints of it ending or maybe rebrand. Either way, they are doing what they normally don't do usually, so it's sus.
Regardless, GSL finals in less than 24 hrs, come watch it then.


Can I buy these from the US?


Believe you need korean address. There might be way if you are physically visiting GSL finals
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
June 28 2024 21:26 GMT
#8
I haven’t been able to watch esports like I used to, but it is nothing short of a miracle that they’ve been keeping GSL up for so long.

Especially, considering how barren the corporate sponsor scene has been for esports in Korea in the last…. 6-7 years.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24485 Posts
June 28 2024 21:30 GMT
#9
On June 29 2024 04:35 Waxangel wrote:
It's surprising that GSL has been held this long when absorption into ESL has felt like the 'obvious' move for a couple of years now. I guess there's some lingering loyalty from AfreecaTV, and it certainly helps that the crowdfunding has been successful as well.

Honestly, I think it would be theoretically okay to just retire the GSL, create EPT Korea, and try to channel that crowdfunding passion toward more grassroots-ish projects like a Korean HomeStory Cup-style event or other things of that nature. The problem, I guess, is that GSL is the only brand that can regularly rally people to cough up $40,000 a season, and that in itself is irreplaceable value in a shrinking scene.

It’s such an evocative brand within the scene I suppose, some of us have been watching it in various forms for some 14 years

I’m unsure whether the ship has sailed but I’d long felt the best course was ESL helping prop it up a bit, rather than some scenario where the GSL just stops and the ESL lot have to step in and replace it as a Korean tournament runner.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Expensive-Law-9830
Profile Joined April 2024
111 Posts
June 29 2024 05:36 GMT
#10
On June 29 2024 06:26 lestye wrote:

Especially, considering how barren the corporate sponsor scene has been for esports in Korea in the last…. 6-7 years.

Its only barren for sc2, which is not surprising given that viewership is in the low thousands. You reach more people sponsoring a random e girl.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
June 29 2024 09:53 GMT
#11
fingers crossed!!!
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51402 Posts
June 29 2024 11:20 GMT
#12
On June 29 2024 06:26 lestye wrote:
I haven’t been able to watch esports like I used to, but it is nothing short of a miracle that they’ve been keeping GSL up for so long.

Especially, considering how barren the corporate sponsor scene has been for esports in Korea in the last…. 6-7 years.


absolutely false - league of legend's korean tourney has marquee sponsors like woori bank, cass and red bull.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10301 Posts
June 29 2024 13:04 GMT
#13
Well after watching GSL finals i am not so worried. Seems like something will be announced after World Cup
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
July 01 2024 04:18 GMT
#14
On June 29 2024 20:20 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2024 06:26 lestye wrote:
I haven’t been able to watch esports like I used to, but it is nothing short of a miracle that they’ve been keeping GSL up for so long.

Especially, considering how barren the corporate sponsor scene has been for esports in Korea in the last…. 6-7 years.


absolutely false - league of legend's korean tourney has marquee sponsors like woori bank, cass and red bull.

Is that true for the teams though? I'm not very knowledgeable but I recall Samsung dropping their team after winning worlds. And taking a glance at the LCK, It doesn't seem as marque as proleague days.

Granted, I'm not a Korean and maybe i'm just old-brained and thats a dumb take.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24485 Posts
July 01 2024 08:15 GMT
#15
On July 01 2024 13:18 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2024 20:20 GTR wrote:
On June 29 2024 06:26 lestye wrote:
I haven’t been able to watch esports like I used to, but it is nothing short of a miracle that they’ve been keeping GSL up for so long.

Especially, considering how barren the corporate sponsor scene has been for esports in Korea in the last…. 6-7 years.


absolutely false - league of legend's korean tourney has marquee sponsors like woori bank, cass and red bull.

Is that true for the teams though? I'm not very knowledgeable but I recall Samsung dropping their team after winning worlds. And taking a glance at the LCK, It doesn't seem as marque as proleague days.

Granted, I'm not a Korean and maybe i'm just old-brained and thats a dumb take.

Yeah I was under the impression that it’s quite rough for teams in various titles, with some exceptions. Even in games that have very successful eSports scenes overall. Or that teams might be in OK shape but it’s from publisher/dev subsidy more than outside sponsorship

I’m a pretty big noob with wider eSports mind, be interested if someone more knowledgeable could chip in
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1107 Posts
July 01 2024 12:32 GMT
#16
On July 01 2024 13:18 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2024 20:20 GTR wrote:
On June 29 2024 06:26 lestye wrote:
I haven’t been able to watch esports like I used to, but it is nothing short of a miracle that they’ve been keeping GSL up for so long.

Especially, considering how barren the corporate sponsor scene has been for esports in Korea in the last…. 6-7 years.


absolutely false - league of legend's korean tourney has marquee sponsors like woori bank, cass and red bull.

Is that true for the teams though? I'm not very knowledgeable but I recall Samsung dropping their team after winning worlds. And taking a glance at the LCK, It doesn't seem as marque as proleague days.

Granted, I'm not a Korean and maybe i'm just old-brained and thats a dumb take.


Samsung pulled out, if I recall correctly, because the Group was going through a rough patch at the time, with the CEO being under investigation and what not. So they cut their sponsoring budget.
But if you look through the teams more closely, they are actually prettey hefty sponsored: T1 and KT are known since Proleague, Gen.G is a Joint-Venture between Korea and Silicon Valley (was called "KSV Esport" for a short while), Dplus is name-spnsored by KIA, NongShim is I believe Koreas biggest Food-related company, Kwangdong Freecs are still owned by Afreeca and so on
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NathanBell
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July 13 2024 12:29 GMT
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