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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2013 01:04 GMT
#2421
For myself, the feeling on Geript/Johnny was that there was hardly enough to make a read on, so the only thing we have is that they both went pretty hard on Crazometer (who flipped scum) long before there was any chance to lynch him. Not that it would be impossible for that to be a bus, but he gets some real town cred for that interaction.

The low contribution from him/them is pretty awkward though.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 28 2013 01:10 GMT
#2422
BRB THEN SHIT"S GONNA GET READ
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 28 2013 01:40 GMT
#2423
k im back.
gotta keep up the spam now that raynes gone
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2013 01:53 GMT
#2424
So did you actually read Geript/Johnny?

And if so, were there any actual conclusions drawn?
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 28 2013 02:04 GMT
#2425
yeah i am drawing the fuck out of these conclusions
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 28 2013 02:26 GMT
#2426
k im gonna read johhnywup's filter and I will put my thoughts down here:

-first few posts in and I already think he's scum. It's just that he is uncannily right about a lot of shit, kind of like I am when I'm mafia


1 he says rainbows case on fuba is bad (fuba now confirmed town)
On August 23 2013 11:52 johnnywup wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Rainbows, is the main case you have against fuba this post? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521&currentpage=43#849

Or is there something more current that I haven't gotten to yet? Because if it's just that first post that I linked, I'm pretty unconvinced.



2 onegu bad lynch, geript might have been right about crazy, because he's attacking kush (implying that i'm town)
On August 23 2013 12:43 johnnywup wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
wait, why are people voting onegu? I haven't seen any case on him where I'm at. Come to think of it, I haven't seen much of him at all where I'm at >_> or at least he's not very memorable. has there been a case against him? If so, could someone link me to it?

I'm still catching up but I think geript may have been right in voting crazo. he seem pretty scummy where I'm at (his case against kush...)




3 very against both the sno and wos lynch. Even though he is not completely caught up, he is completely disgusted by both lynches.
I think this quote is actually quite damning!
On August 23 2013 16:03 johnnywup wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I actually would like to lynch crazo but it looks like that's not an option. Is it seriously just sn0 and WoS that are the options for the lynch? -.- I don't really like lynching either of them, both are slightly leaning town for me.. ugh. I dunno how I feel about this. Why are they like the only choices? -.-

Full disclosure: I'm still not completely caught up.


OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 28 2013 02:29 GMT
#2427
mayb not
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 03:48 GMT
#2428
Hey Kush! I'm back. It looks like you are the only active player atm.

About johnny. I think he is a disillusioned townie that has no idea what he's doing. Early in the day, he was confused as to why everyone was voting Onegu and later, Onegu was one of his strongest scum reads. Scum don't really want to be associated with inevitable lynches. If anything, they would want to push the Onegu lynch early and then change off it later so they wouldn't be associated with it.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 03:54 GMT
#2429
Kush, I'd like to get your thoughts on Koshi. I understand you think he is town, can you explain why?

We know WoS got a SAME check on Koshi and rayn. Rayn flipped suspicious citizen, so we know he would read RED. Koshi is the same as Rayn, so we know he reads RED as well. Therefore, it is implicit in this logic that Koshi is 50/50 scum/SAM. Those are better odds than we can justify for anyone in this thread and they are derived independently of his scummy behavior.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 04:48 GMT
#2430
Is anyone out there? I'd like to look into some people who pushed the Onegu lynch early. If Yamato is mafia, the early Onegu pushers are probably scum.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 04:52 GMT
#2431
This is so lame. Scum just killed all the active posters so they can lynch with impunity. We can't win unless we TALK.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 28 2013 04:54 GMT
#2432
im here, and neither me or mkfuba is scum so I disagree with your theory.
I come in for the scraps
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2013 04:56 GMT
#2433
I'm here, and I don't see any new information coming to light. If you want to make a case on Koshi based on his actions I'm game, but if you really want to get out of being lynched your best bets are rainbows and vayne.

And Fuba is quite clearly not scum.
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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 04:56 GMT
#2434
On August 28 2013 13:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
im here, and neither me or mkfuba is scum so I disagree with your theory.

Fair enough. mkfuba is definitely town.

I'm glad you are here. What do you think of johnnywup?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 28 2013 04:59 GMT
#2435
as i've stated the geript ---> johnny both tunneling crazo for pretty much no reason seems like scum picking their weakest ally and bussing them for cred later.

There's really not much more to go off of.
I come in for the scraps
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 28 2013 05:10 GMT
#2436
im not scum btw kush

*yawn* got no sleep last night so I fell asleep right as I got home. sorry for not posting earlier. Ft is scummy as fuck. Yamato is fitting his scum meta to a t. Seriously, how is he still alive? Just look at his filter. Has he done anything to help town in any way shape or form? He comments from the sidelines occasionally then appears to defend himself whenever someone has a case against him. Scum.

Scum most likely lie within VA, sn0, FT, Rainbows, and yamato. I'm pretty freaking convinced yamato is one of the scum. Koshi's post pre-daypost is pretty convincing to me that FT is likely scum but he has been pretty convincing since he has been accused >_> I definitely would have liked him to start posting this way a long time ago. Since he only started posting non fluff actively after being accused I'll put him as still likely scum. Sn0 tunneling FT looks like a bus or something. I think it would make a lot of sense if sn0 and FT are on the same scumteam, tbh and I don't know why the current town sentiment seems to be thinking that they can't both possibly be scum. He tunneled rayn...and rayn tunneled him...we can't ignore that. I find myself agreeing with rayn, a dead man. Particularly this post: + Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have concluded that yamato, FirmTofu and one of johnnywup/Sn0_man are mafia:

This is mostly due to process of elimination. I don't think there is any chance of mkfuba or Koshi to be scum. I do not think kushmasta is scum. Rainbows is probably town because of the following. In our newbie game Rainbows was inactive at the start of the game. When he finally got in thread, the first thing he did was to check scum QT for what is going on. I do not think he would do this "lol you can't be cop, lynch rayn!" if he was mafia, he would have checked the scum QT first and he would see how stupid his accusation on me is. vayne if you are town i suggest you pick your game up because you are another questionmark, although johnnywup and Snodude look a lot worse than you do, and yamato is accusing you.

FirmTofu did consider Snoman as a lynch over Onegu. There were 2 candidates who could have been possibly lynched over Onegu last day. They were yamato and Rainbows. FirmTofu said nothing about them, and when i brought up Rainbows he went over his filter and voted for him in the end. When Onegu corrected me and said yamato is actually the only one we can get a lynch on, FirmTofu left. He did not even look at who were realisticly possible to lynch, and when we got our shit together with Onegu, he left.

Snodude wasted his vote. totally. This added to his play before makes him very likely mafia. johnnywup's reasons for voting on D2 are horrible. geript was scummy. Very likely mafia. snodude and yamato do not address each other like ever.. yamato soft pushed Sno, who has been looking scummy all game, but does notthing to question him, does nothing to find out his alignment. yamato also has not even tried to lead the town into any direction. He just comments on some things going on into the game, makes some random comments that do not help the town at all, does not try to push any lynches for real, does not defend/attack anyone. He is a definition of blending in.

Pick from those guys on D3. i'd say FirmTofu and yamato are definitely scum. Then one of johnnywup / Snoman. I'd place my bets on Sno over johnny.

. I think that's a good sign because THAT may be what he was killed for. I obviously disagree about me being suspect but besides that, I'm agreeing with his post more and more.

I'm fairly confident at least 2 out of 3 of yamato/sn0/firmtofu is scum. It could certainly be all 3. If it's not all 3:

Who is the scum, if one of the three isn't mafia? I'd say Rainbows is a possibility. I sort of have a weak town read on him but I feel like FT and yamato might know they're going down and are voting him to discredit the thought that he might be scum. Who knows. He's been pretty useless but like someone said (I forget who) he does have a couple posts that I can't see a scum Rainbows making. VA is being weird right now and won't lynch FT. I'm not sure if that's a very obvious scum trying to help another scum avoid a lynch or what...it seems way too obvious to be that...:\ I think these are the two we should look at if any of the three I listed does not flip scum, but I think we should obviously lynch those 3 first.

I do think that yamato FT and sn0 are probably the remaining scumteam.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 05:13 GMT
#2437
On August 28 2013 13:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm here, and I don't see any new information coming to light. If you want to make a case on Koshi based on his actions I'm game, but if you really want to get out of being lynched your best bets are rainbows and vayne.

And Fuba is quite clearly not scum.

Sn0, if you are town, you need to stop tunneling me so we can lynch scum. I'm willing to consider the possibility, but you have to be willing to read my arguments.

I'm not as interested in not being lynched as I am in finding scum. Koshi has to have a 50/50 possibility of being scum. He either lied or didn't lie about his SAM claim. He could fall on either side of that coin. Now, can you tell me why he falls on the town side as opposed to the scum side?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 05:20 GMT
#2438
@johnny
You think Sn0 and I have been bussing each other for the entire game? How can you justify that stance based on the flips? If we were mafia together, rayn was a crucial asset to both of us.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 28 2013 05:22 GMT
#2439
For me koshi is actually SAM because he made the claim when only like half the game had posted so far. It seems too risky for a scum to do that when they are in no real danger at the chance of being CC'ed.

If he somehow got lucky then I can live with that...I don't mind being beaten by luck.
I come in for the scraps
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 28 2013 05:29 GMT
#2440
@FT he was onto you guys so you didn't want to have an extra vote on you for no reason

@vayne it's not possible to have 2 SAMs? you can't really counterclaim a green role it has no power so there's not really any limit to how many there can be?
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