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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 05:30 GMT
#2441
On August 28 2013 14:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
For me koshi is actually SAM because he made the claim when only like half the game had posted so far. It seems too risky for a scum to do that when they are in no real danger at the chance of being CC'ed.

If he somehow got lucky then I can live with that...I don't mind being beaten by luck.

This was actually my initial reasoning. Then, Onegu suggested that Koshi made a deliberate play to stay one step ahead of town. At first, it sounded ridiculous, but I'm starting to warm up to this theory. Koshi probably claimed to ensure that no one would ever check him and/or to ensure that a red check on him would be doubted immediately. If he were the framer, this would make even more sense. I don't think the framer can frame himself, so the only foolproof way to avoid being checked is to claim SAM.

Now that I think about it, it's all starting to make sense...

I feel like scum are playing us right now. Koshi is being extremely manipulative and intelligent. This reeks of his scum play.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 28 2013 05:30 GMT
#2442
On August 28 2013 14:29 johnnywup wrote:
@FT he was onto you guys so you didn't want to have an extra vote on you for no reason

@vayne it's not possible to have 2 SAMs? you can't really counterclaim a green role it has no power so there's not really any limit to how many there can be?


no, it's not. It's a semi-closed setup if you read =/ All power roles are individual people, so you can't have two of them. There only only be more than 1 of vanilla town and vanilla scum.
I come in for the scraps
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 28 2013 05:31 GMT
#2443
oh i didn't know that
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 28 2013 05:33 GMT
#2444
On August 28 2013 14:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 14:29 johnnywup wrote:
@FT he was onto you guys so you didn't want to have an extra vote on you for no reason

@vayne it's not possible to have 2 SAMs? you can't really counterclaim a green role it has no power so there's not really any limit to how many there can be?


no, it's not. It's a semi-closed setup if you read =/ All power roles are individual people, so you can't have two of them. There only only be more than 1 of vanilla town and vanilla scum.

Setup: Semi-closed. You will know the roles, but not how many of each there will be.


you sure?
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 05:33 GMT
#2445
On August 28 2013 14:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 14:29 johnnywup wrote:
@FT he was onto you guys so you didn't want to have an extra vote on you for no reason

@vayne it's not possible to have 2 SAMs? you can't really counterclaim a green role it has no power so there's not really any limit to how many there can be?


no, it's not. It's a semi-closed setup if you read =/ All power roles are individual people, so you can't have two of them. There only only be more than 1 of vanilla town and vanilla scum.

I don't think that is correct, Vayne.
Setup: Semi-closed. You will know the roles, but not how many of each there will be.

It clearly states we do not know how many of ANY roles there will be.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 05:34 GMT
#2446
Is it possible to have more than one Self-aware Miller in this setup?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 28 2013 05:35 GMT
#2447
yea im positive. Look it'd be stupid if there was individual names for the power roles and there was two of them. That makes zero sense.

The specific name on the SAM but no specific name on miller kinda gives it away that there is probably one in the game.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 28 2013 05:36 GMT
#2448
so you're telling me in a themed setup that Kanji Tatsumi is going to die, but then he's going to die again at a later time?

im going to have to disagree.
I come in for the scraps
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 05:41 GMT
#2449
Doesn't matter. We can discuss it after hosts confirm. What do you think about Koshi independently of the WoS check?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 28 2013 05:43 GMT
#2450
obviously the hosts are going to say there is the possibility, but let's be real, there isn't.

uh well he's been wrong a lot but so have I so nothing really conclusive there. He seems to be trying to figure out the game, Idk

If I had to do 3 way lylo with him I could probably hammer him but that's about it
I come in for the scraps
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2013 05:46 GMT
#2451
You see, I was totally on board with the "Koshi BS'd his SAM claim for town cred" argument 3 days ago. Now... Well lets just say Tofu is proving himself willing to say literally anything that will avoid his lynch. Like seriously, he reeks of desperation and is willing to say *anything* to throw suspicion on anybody else.

If tofu wasn't so obviously scum he might have a point but reading Koshi's whole filter smells too much town.
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
August 28 2013 05:47 GMT
#2452
'Setup: Semi-closed. You will know the roles, but not how many of each there will be.' from the op
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2013 05:47 GMT
#2453
As in, there are 3 scum left as far as we know, and Tofu is one.

The chances of Koshi being another are slim to nil given that Tofu is one.
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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 28 2013 05:49 GMT
#2454
On August 28 2013 14:46 Sn0_Man wrote:
You see, I was totally on board with the "Koshi BS'd his SAM claim for town cred" argument 3 days ago. Now... Well lets just say Tofu is proving himself willing to say literally anything that will avoid his lynch. Like seriously, he reeks of desperation and is willing to say *anything* to throw suspicion on anybody else.

If tofu wasn't so obviously scum he might have a point but reading Koshi's whole filter smells too much town.

I'm trying to figure out the game. You are tunneling me to oblivion. I'm the desperate one here?

I gave you chance and you didn't take it. I will be ignoring you from now on.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2013 05:50 GMT
#2455
I'm not really talking to you atm anyway Tofu. I don't need to convince you you are scum. You are already aware of that fact. Some of town, on the other hand, seem to need some tips.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 28 2013 07:23 GMT
#2456
##unvote
##vote yamato


I will be very fucking sad if this guy turns out to be town or even survivor. But I can't decide between Mr Snowman and FT yet. If you are survivor. You better bring 100% scumreads + cases with your claim.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 28 2013 07:33 GMT
#2457
How red are you!

Yamato 95%
FT 70%
The Snowman 65%
VA 60%
Johnny 35%
Rainbow 25%
Kush 5%
Lion King 0%


Good night sleep changed it around again. Mr Snowman played too bad before today. He could be red for his play this game, I fucking said it before when I read your fucking previous games, why can't you play untunneled from the fucking start.

FT should be red for his play though, but fuck it, guys that should flip red simply never do. Not saying that I wont lynch FT today, but fuck everything when you flip town FT. Your filter is a fucking monstrosity, your cases are fucking awful, only if Mr Snowman flips red you can at least say that your reads are somewhat decent.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 28 2013 07:38 GMT
#2458
I use so much "fuck", but I am not angry. True story.
I had a good night of sleep.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
August 28 2013 09:32 GMT
#2459
Vote Count

yamato77: (2) kushm4sta, Koshi
Koshi: (1) FirmTofu
FirmTofu: (1) Sn0_Man
Sn0_Man: (1) VayneAuthority
No Vote: yamato77, Rainbows, johnnywup, mkfuba07

Currently, yamato77 is set to be lynched.

Next deadline:
Deadline date: Thursday, Aug 29 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 28 2013 11:32 GMT
#2460
Vayne is right there can only be one Sam. There's not gonna be two people with the same japanese name.

Yamato
Johhnywup
Ft

That's who I'm thinking now but I wanna look into rainbows more at some point
Ge
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
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