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On July 09 2013 00:46 Z-BosoN wrote: Discussion is diving hard atm towards set-up speculation. Scum love this discussion because it's easy to participate in and look like they are contributing. Let's focus on consolidating our vote and try to dish out them scum, please.
Right now I am waiting for WoS and austin to respond and going through some other filters. What I know now is that I do not want Chezinu dead, as I stated before, and that this discussion is pointless unless there is new info that people with roles are willing to share.
Xatalos, why do you feel Meapak is town? I find his play so far to be a bit confusing from a town perspective. Please elaborate.
Why is it pointless to lynch Chezinu? He nuked me, the strongest general townread at the time, for no (apparent) reason. Maybe he was just being insane, but unless he soon A) starts explaining his actions and B) reveals what type of nuke he launched at me (solving the problem of Oatsmaster's anti-nuke), I feel we should lynch him.
Reasons for Meapak being town: 1) he was nuked secretly - only scum would have a natural reason not to claim their nukes - likely the launcher is scum and Meapak is town (both CAN'T be scum, since it would be 100% insane to secretly kill your own scum team) 2) he didn't shut up after being nuked, but rather started scumhunting with renewed motivation, which is a clear town trademark (why would scum act pro-town after being sentenced to death?) 3) overall he has posted townishly and scumhunted a lot IMO
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Im going to sleep. <3 Xatalos, PLEASE DONT BE SCUM ##Defend Xatalos
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NUCLEAR DEFENSE ACTIVATED The nuke heading towards Xatalos has been shot down from the sky.
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On July 09 2013 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Im going to sleep. <3 Xatalos, PLEASE DONT BE SCUM ##Defend Xatalos
Too bad you couldn't wait. I think we could have pressured the answer out of Chezinu and maybe saved Meapak. But at least now I know I'll live, which is kind of a relief, I guess.
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Would have preferred MZ being defended but both are likely town so whatever
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Okay Oats. I understand you need to go to bed, that was probably the best possible thing you could do. The problem is that Xatalos is kinda vanilla now. Unless some townie has a radiation nuke. If you do, launch that towards Xatalos the first thing on D2 if he is alive.
I'm not giving Chezinu a "free pass", he still needs to explain himself. There is plenty of time before the lynch. I would have like Oats to clarify from hosts does the anti-nuke block only KP or all the effects. Apparently all, and given that i would definitely defend Xata over Meapak. There is still a chance scum launched a fake-nuke on their scumbuddy Meapak. Imagine what it does. First of all you gain town credit. Second, you become "unlynchable" for the phase. Like, "why would we even look at that guy who is going to die either way".
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On July 09 2013 00:57 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 00:46 Z-BosoN wrote: Discussion is diving hard atm towards set-up speculation. Scum love this discussion because it's easy to participate in and look like they are contributing. Let's focus on consolidating our vote and try to dish out them scum, please.
Right now I am waiting for WoS and austin to respond and going through some other filters. What I know now is that I do not want Chezinu dead, as I stated before, and that this discussion is pointless unless there is new info that people with roles are willing to share.
Xatalos, why do you feel Meapak is town? I find his play so far to be a bit confusing from a town perspective. Please elaborate.
Why is it pointless to lynch Chezinu? He nuked me, the strongest general townread at the time, for no (apparent) reason. Maybe he was just being insane, but unless he soon A) starts explaining his actions and B) reveals what type of nuke he launched at me (solving the problem of Oatsmaster's anti-nuke), I feel we should lynch him. Reasons for Meapak being town: 1) he was nuked secretly - only scum would have a natural reason not to claim their nukes - likely the launcher is scum and Meapak is town (both CAN'T be scum, since it would be 100% insane to secretly kill your own scum team) 2) he didn't shut up after being nuked, but rather started scumhunting with renewed motivation, which is a clear town trademark (why would scum act pro-town after being sentenced to death?) 3) overall he has posted townishly and scumhunted a lot IMO
Well, why would scum nuke meapak? What is the purpose in it? As I recall, he wasn't the most townie-looking person at the time of the launch.
What bothers me about him is that earlier on he was pretty suspicious of rayne earlier on, but did nothing to pursue him. He just put him in the "probable scum" category in his big list, without doing any sort of discussion.
I'll look into 2), seems like a fair point
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So...guys... If someone else could be shot or saved....who would you want it to be? :D :D :D
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WoS... Who gives a shit right now? We need to focus on who were going to lynch. You're distracting from that with pointless questions like that.
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WORLD AT WAR
geript: (1)
raynpelikoneet Dandel Ion
johnnywup: (1) VayneAuthority
Xatalos
WaveofShadow
TanGeng
Abenson
OriginalName
Chezinu: (5) raynepelikoneet
Onegu Ace TanGeng Abenson Xatalos
WaveofShadow: (1) geript
johnnywup
Onegu: (2) Nirvana.Gabo MajuGarzett
austinmcc: (0)
Xatalos
raynepelikoneet: (0)
Alakaslam
Z-BosoN: (0)
Chezinu
Dandel Ion: (1) johnnywup
Nirvana.Gabo: (2) Oatsmaster raynpelikoneet
ghost_403: (1)
Alakaslam Chezinu
VayneAuthority: (2) FirmTofu Alakaslam
TARGET: Chezinu is set to be obliterated!
Obliteration will occur at: 21:59 GMT (+00:00) which arrives in
Nukes can no longer be fired for this phase!
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I don't see how that's pointless in the slightest. Is there more than one person you'd want dead today? Is there someone currently being nuked that can be saved?
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Meapak should be saved if possibel, he is totes town.
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So....if I were to tell you guys to get your votes off of NG.....
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On July 09 2013 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay Oats. I understand you need to go to bed, that was probably the best possible thing you could do. The problem is that Xatalos is kinda vanilla now. Unless some townie has a radiation nuke. If you do, launch that towards Xatalos the first thing on D2 if he is alive.
I'm not giving Chezinu a "free pass", he still needs to explain himself. There is plenty of time before the lynch. I would have like Oats to clarify from hosts does the anti-nuke block only KP or all the effects. Apparently all, and given that i would definitely defend Xata over Meapak. There is still a chance scum launched a fake-nuke on their scumbuddy Meapak. Imagine what it does. First of all you gain town credit. Second, you become "unlynchable" for the phase. Like, "why would we even look at that guy who is going to die either way".
I think there's a high chance that I'm NK'd (apparently everyone thinks I'm town). Another sensible NK would be Oatsmaster with his anti-nuke. If I live, it might be a good idea to give me that KP, although it might be risky (I'd be an obvious roleblock target, if there are scum roleblockers in this game). The bad thing about this is that now there's zero chance of a scum shooting me with a Radiation nuke. Oh well, at least I'll live for now.
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I'd preferably like some input from some more of the active townies here. I want to make sure this is something we can all agree on somewhat.
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On July 09 2013 01:19 WaveofShadow wrote: So....if I were to tell you guys to get your votes off of NG..... What makes you not want lynch him? Why can't you save Meapak without conditions?
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I'm down for lynching dandel, wos, s and b, and on. I'm slightly less excited about a NG lynch but if that's what's going to happen then I'm moderately okay with it. I'm indifferent about a chez lynch, don't like it don't hate it.
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On July 09 2013 01:19 WaveofShadow wrote: I'd preferably like some input from some more of the active townies here. I want to make sure this is something we can all agree on somewhat.
Answer my post, good sir.
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Yeah Johnny I'm not getting lynched. Today or ever.
Come on where are the rest of you guys? I REALLY wanna YOLO this and I'm pretty tempted but I at least want to see if SOME people approve.
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