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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On July 08 2013 16:54 geript wrote: This just in. FirmTofu is like confirmed town unless that was a completely constructed post. FirmTofu was confirmed town from his post where he talked about me. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 08 2013 16:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: To expand on this, this set of quotes: NG says he noticed Onegu's posts about Chezinu but not mine. Then he says he apparently did see my posts after all? When i ask him to clarify, he does not answer. scum. Chezinu: After the possible nuking period is over (in some hours), i expect you to give your clear reasoning for nuking Xatalos over anyone else in the game. If you do not give that, i will be lynching you until you die and i encourage everyone else to do so. Right now you are only flip-flopping around the question, saying "i am dead already" (lol, people take this at face value??). I don't care if you had to launch your nuke or not, i care about why Xatalos was in your opinion the best target of all the people. Oats i am not scum. Why do you think Johnny is scum? Alakasam is either scum or terribad. I quite literally was thinking of many of these points as I was making notes going back over stuff. Especially the Alakaslam note. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 08 2013 16:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: FirmTofu was confirmed town from his post where he talked about me. I'll look back at that but I didn't remember and didn't have it down. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
On July 08 2013 16:46 Chezinu wrote: Why would Чезину know how to speak multiple languages? Heheh. Well, my butchering is не со злым умыслом, за ним, но you (M_Z) are right, irl I have no idea what I say and Chezinu very likely does. Sigh.... Really chez, <3<3<3. But I guess I will need to post a heck of a lot less while I ask my cousin how to say, and then how to write grammatically :D + Show Spoiler + sorta. Kinda. Not really. (He doesn't have the time XD) But sorry for google butchering a perfectly good language. And well done calling BS M_Z | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
I dont think his role is aligment indicative. He is clearly insecure about being looked as as scummy. He then says that his vote is possibly bad allowing him to hop off WoS quickly if needed to. He seems really fucking confident in WoS being scum after that. but. When he comes back to the thread, doesnt mention WoS and nukes TanGeng. I have no idea what made him drop his super strong read on WoS. Scum! | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
But yeah, if we are not lynching Chezinu we are lynching NG. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
Lose shit meter: 72% | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On July 08 2013 16:50 CaucasianAsian wrote: Previous + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2013 14:59 CaucasianAsian wrote: i have to go eat. will continue later today Dandel Ion + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=Dandel Ion On July 07 2013 07:12 Dandel Ion wrote: Also, in an concentrated effort to prepare for sicilian mafia (for which I'm not actually signed up for, but you can never know), I'll stop posting for the dayphase, and only vote from now on. So he posts a bunch of filler, and then states that he won’t be beneficial at all to town. Fair enough, so point blank, he has posted a refusal to not help town. ghost_403 + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=ghost_403 Lurker, very few posts. Not beneficial Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler + All his limited posts are pretty much filler, doing nothing beneficial to town. Stutters695 + Show Spoiler + Filler, not being beneficial Z-BosoN + Show Spoiler + Pretty boring, not beneficial as of yet Abenson + Show Spoiler + He claims to have unvoted for Johnny here: On July 08 2013 12:31 Abenson wrote: Anyways I've unvoted from Johnny since although he looks kinda suspicious, it might be just newbie town. I think we can pay attention to him but not lynch him right away. Gonna vote Chez. Interested to see what he flips and what motivated him to throw that nuke Yet, he never even voted, as can see here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=Abenson Beyond that confusing post, not beneficial Meapak_Ziphh + Show Spoiler + Unfortunately he is being nuked by someone who didn’t claim it. As Xatalos stated here: + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 20:00 Xatalos wrote: Looks like I'm still alive. Although after re-reading the rules, it's not that surprising: So: 1) apparently every nuke will hit at the deadline, not before or after that time 2) there are different types of nukes I can say that I'm immune to one type of nuke, but clearly I'm still in danger of death, since I don't know which type of nuke Chezinu launched at me. Ultimately it will be resolved at the deadline. If someone wants to use an anti-nuke or something, feel free to do so, although I can't be certain if it's necessary or not. Chezinu, if you are town, I'd like to hear your reasoning for launching a nuke at me and the type of that nuke. This at least proves that nukes don't necessarily have to be claimed. Dunno if Chezinu's nuke required claiming, but there's at least a strong possibility that he claimed it without needing to. That makes him look more townish IMO - why claim if my town flip would just put him in a tough spot as scum? On the other hand, nobody claiming this nuke aimed at Meapak makes it likely a scum nuke... And Meapak town based on that. Is that an actual read? If so, why? There is no reason for a townie to randomly nuke someone so early on with very little reads. This makes me assume that he is town, and it is probably a scum nuke. Unfortunately we won’t be able to see him for much longer. Ace + Show Spoiler + The first person to actually be posting so far down this list (with the exception of Meapak who is unfortunately being nuked). To say that he is mafia or town is hard at the moment. After all, it’s still Day 1, and there is very little information to go off of. Although as everyone seems to be on the right page, people not talking are simply bad for town, and it’s good that he is saying something, town or mafia, as if he’s town we will be able to understand that through his future posts / voting / nuking (?) and if he is mafia, we will be able to see flaws in his logic and patterns through posts / voting / nuking (?) Continuing MajuGarzett + Show Spoiler + Doesn’t post much, but from the few posts he has made, seems to be doing some actual analysis. Although he is inactive, he currently doesn’t seem as scummy or bad townie as other inactives. Should be looked at closely, and made sure that he continues to post again, but I’m not too worried about him yet Johnnywup + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 23:59 johnnywup wrote: I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. On July 08 2013 14:09 johnnywup wrote: Guys. I don't have much time left. I need to nuke someone to live. I'm getting a scummy read out of TanGeng. He's one I feel is most likely scum... So there you go. ##nuke TanGeng I will not be able to change this. Additionally, I am going to vote for Dandel Ion for now. Of the inactives, he seems most likely scum. I can change this in the morning if I feel like it, and I don't think a chez lynch is the best idea right now, and he seems to be gaining the most traction. I don't support that. So I'm voting for a new candidate which I think most people can agree on lynching on if it comes to it. He never posted before that he needs to nuke in order to survive. If that were the case, I am starting to understand why he is bad for the town. Not only is his basis to target TanGeng absolutely absurd, when there are many other inactives (I myself was very inactive) who fit into the same line. Also, I cannot assume that a town role forces you to nuke someone. If he is forced to nuke someone every day, and he is not lying, then that’s simply bad for town. It’s very risky. Also, he votes for WaveofShadow, and Dandel Ion http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420340&user=johnnywup His basis is that Dandel Ion is scummier than WaveOfShadow. Onegu + Show Spoiler + So right off the bat, before I even start to say anything. I want to note that MajuGarzett votes for him. As I stated earlier, I don’t feel as if MajuGarzett is very scummy yet. Overall, even though I’m not a big fan of Onegu, he hasn’t done anything way out of the ordinary that would quantify him as being mafia, or town yet. I feel very neutral on him. He continues to say that I’m a scummy lurker. I can understand why people would assume I’m a lurker. I’ll defend this once I get to me on the list. But honestly, he seems to be proactive. I don’t see any hardcore basis behind lynching him yet, unless I want to go about a pride thing. But he gives me a more townie feel to be honest. VayneAuthority + Show Spoiler + I have a similar feeling to VayneAuthority as I do to Onegu. Even though he has less filler posts, he seems to be doing decent analysis. Despite the whole thing of me being drunk and thus that’s a sign of mafia, he’s not looking to be pro-scum from my point of view thus far. He does seem to be lynch happy, but ok. There are people much higher up on my radar currently. strongandbig + Show Spoiler + Very inactive, and blames 2 people that they look scummy. He is really sitting in the corner, showing he is watching the thread (with his 2 random suspicion posts) and not being beneficial to town at all. gunshoe + Show Spoiler + Almost every single one of his posts are filled with fluff. Not being productive at all. Will continue later, need to study for class. First are you sure you were looking at my filter because I never mention you let alone say you are a scummy lurker. I agree with your thoughts on Johnny though, it just seemed convienent that he only posts he has to fire a nuke after chez says he had to fire his. Just seems like a easy way to fire his at someone on geripts list, especially if he has multiple nukes. Also he never says why dandol is scummier just odd. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On July 08 2013 16:59 geript wrote: I'll look back at that but I didn't remember and didn't have it down. On July 08 2013 04:54 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, I've got plenty of time now and I've finally got my computer back. I have skimmed through the thread and I'd just like to point out a few things before posting my mega post(tm). Two main people have been targeted as lynches today. Johnnywup and rayn both look like easy scum redirects. In other words, relatively weak town members that would be easy to lynch if push comes to shove. I think you should be watching any and all players on those respective wagons and see how their votes change over the course of the thread. I'm having trouble understanding this Chezinu guy. Apparently, he's a troll? I'm unfamiliar with his persona so could anyone explain? I've still gotta read his claim in detail so I'll post more about that later. Scum QT has been talking about me, that's for sure, because at that point i had something like 3 pages of filter. Assuming that, FirmTofu's statement does not make sense from scum pov, because here are my town games: TL Mafia games: LoTR Mafia - town - bombed N5 (~2years ago, my first game ever) RED Team's Prize - town (third faction) - hit by prplhz N3 Ego Mini Mafia - town - survived, won, caught Oats Boardwalk Empire Mafia: PYP - town - hit N1 TL Mafia LXI - town - hit N2 Carnival Cruise Mafia - town - hit N1 Les Mafia - town - hit N1 Basterd mini mafia - town - hit N1 Based only on that list and my assumption about scum QT, do i come out as "relatively weak town member"? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
"Carnival Cruise Mafia - town - hit N1" And no Ace, Vivax vigged vayne, scum hit me. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
The Oatsmaster is above me! Oy! Oats! What do you think of MajuGarzett? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On July 08 2013 17:17 Oatsmaster wrote: rayn is weak, anyway I feel that cocky rayn is town rayn. Rayn is chez your top scumread? How do you even know i am weak? Do i need to be right on everything on D1 for you to consider me strong? About my reads: We are lynching into Chez/NG/WoS/ON/Maju today. That's my preferred order of their scumminess. Chez & NG are like totally scum. Yes, Chezinu at the top if he does not explain why Xata was the best target to nuke. If he gives a reasonable explanation, NG as close second. People who are town: geript, Dandel, vayne, FT, Abenson, Gumshoe, Xatalos, MZ (if he dies to nuke he is definitely gonna flip town), jampidampi (weak read),. Everyone else is null or null leaning scummy. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 08 2013 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Scum QT has been talking about me, that's for sure, because at that point i had something like 3 pages of filter. Assuming that, FirmTofu's statement does not make sense from scum pov, because here are my town games: TL Mafia games: LoTR Mafia - town - bombed N5 (~2years ago, my first game ever) RED Team's Prize - town (third faction) - hit by prplhz N3 Ego Mini Mafia - town - survived, won, caught Oats Boardwalk Empire Mafia: PYP - town - hit N1 TL Mafia LXI - town - hit N2 Carnival Cruise Mafia - town - hit N1 Les Mafia - town - hit N1 Basterd mini mafia - town - hit N1 Based only on that list and my assumption about scum QT, do i come out as "relatively weak town member"? When I say "weak", I mean it's easy to find dirt on you to pursue a lynch off of. That doesn't make you a bad player by any means. You attract attention, good and bad, making you a prime target for the scum. Scum also probably generally find it easy to convince others to vote for you. I obviously haven't played in all the games you mentioned, but maybe you have witnessed this phenomenon in your own games. It remains to be seen whether this is how you should play, but so far I'd say it's been working. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 08 2013 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: How do you even know i am weak? Do i need to be right on everything on D1 for you to consider me strong? About my reads: Yes, Chezinu at the top if he does not explain why Xata was the best target to nuke. If he gives a reasonable explanation, NG as close second. People who are town: geript, Dandel, vayne, FT, Abenson, Gumshoe, Xatalos, MZ (if he dies to nuke he is definitely gonna flip town), jampidampi (weak read),. Everyone else is null or null leaning scummy. Could you elaborate on why you think Vayne is town? If your read is weak, please have a look at my case against him and reconsider. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On July 08 2013 17:28 FirmTofu wrote: When I say "weak", I mean it's easy to find dirt on you to pursue a lynch off of. That doesn't make you a bad player by any means. You attract attention, good and bad, making you a prime target for the scum. Scum also probably generally find it easy to convince others to vote for you. I obviously haven't played in all the games you mentioned, but maybe you have witnessed this phenomenon in your own games. It remains to be seen whether this is how you should play, but so far I'd say it's been working. I am always under pressure as either alignment. That's how i work. I gather most of my reads based on how people interact with me and why do they do what they do. I don't care about pressure in case i have enough time to actually play the game. There is always going to be some strong town member who actually figures out why i do what i do in case i am not able to convince idiot!town. But sure as hell i am not an "easy mislynch" and that's why people are afraid to vote for me (in this particular game, scum). | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 08 2013 11:57 VayneAuthority wrote: Ok interesting. So apparently chezinu is saying his role gives him like a hot potato nuke that keeps bouncing around that you have to send at some one else? That's a pretty interesting mechanic and I really doubt he is scum now after giving us some content. People should consolidate on Dandel or Onegu if they dont like my johnny lynch. Holy banana-butthole, did anyone catch this? Why would Vayne... 1) ...automatically believe Chez when Chez explains what his role is. 2) ...confirm Chez as a town-read because Chez explained his role mechanics. 3) ...consider an "interesting mechanic" to be "content" We need to lynch this guy ASAP. | ||
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