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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On July 08 2013 16:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: To expand on this, this set of quotes: NG says he noticed Onegu's posts about Chezinu but not mine. Then he says he apparently did see my posts after all? When i ask him to clarify, he does not answer. scum. NG elaborate on this please. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On July 08 2013 19:46 Onegu wrote: He was fake nuked by xata, he says that is why he fired back in his own roundabout way. And this is perfectly fine reasoning to revenge-nuke yes? On July 08 2013 20:09 TanGeng wrote: Dang. I didn't get around to checking before the day 1 nuke deadline. I guess dead man walking? Yay. Based on the assumed deadline, johnnywup has a day 1 nuke? And considering on the setup, unless multiple nukes explode at day 1, this probably makes johnnywup town. If multiple townies die from not firing day 1 nukes then johnnywup is scum. There might be the play to launch now and claim an early deadline but that just doesn't make sense. Now. I resort to prayer. I can't understand anything of the bolded. Explain. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
Chezinu's play feels too random to claim he's a likely scum. Granted, I don't know his meta, but I get the feeling it's not going to be hard to determine his alignment sooner or later if he keeps playing this way. So: it feels too early to lynch him right now. The same goes for WoS, I'd rather wait some more than lynch. I already mentioned how I mistakenly tunneled him in PTP (he was town) for better reasons than have been given about him so far - frankly, he feels like a real lynchbait, much like johnnywup (scummy even while town). strongandbig hasn't posted much yet (and what little he has posted, has been more confusing than helpful). He even called one of johnnywup's posts "scummy" without any kind of reasoning, and then proceeded to fling **** at gumshoe with some weird WIFOM. Verdict: very possibly scum. OriginalName is reading pretty null to me atm, don't think he's a good lynch today. NG could be a good lynch. Posts like this: On July 07 2013 15:33 Nirvana.Gabo wrote: I like the random nuking. Good way to seem active and taking strong stances without being legitimate. :/ Just scream "scum" to me. Making vague remarks and casting suspicion without committing to absolutely anything... Also his fast jump on the Onegu train after casually reading the thread and missing important posts doesn't look good, at all. Both Onegu and NG probably aren't scum, but I'd say Onegu has still an okay chance of flipping scum. Especially his non-committal attitude and flinging suspicion carefully didn't look good. I'm pretty sure that the following players are town atm: geript, rayn, Meapak, Ace. I'd like your opinions on today's lynch, considering my preferences, so that we can lynch correctly today (it might be my last day after all). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On July 08 2013 20:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can't understand anything of the bolded. Explain. Day 1 time limit. If Chezinu's unstable nukes then why not johnnywup. On July 08 2013 14:09 johnnywup wrote: Guys. I don't have much time left. I need to nuke someone to live. I'm getting a scummy read out of TanGeng. He's one I feel is most likely scum... So there you go. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On July 08 2013 20:58 TanGeng wrote: Day 1 time limit. If Chezinu's unstable nukes then why not johnnywup. Are you saying (assuming johnny and Chez are telling the truth about "hot-potato" nukes) that there might be townies who have the same kinda role and did not fire theirt nukes but rather suicided? Or what does this mean; "If multiple townies die from not firing day 1 nukes then johnnywup is scum." And how exactly does this make johnny scum? And if "multiple nukes do not explode", how exactly does this make johnny town? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On July 08 2013 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: From what has been said in thread until now i want to lynch Chezinu/NG. I don't buy Chezinu's "explanations" as i have told, and noone has still told me why io am wrong in my post where i explained my view from scum!Chez and town!Chez perspective. Hell, he hasn't done that himself. For NG i have given my reasons. I think those two are our best lynches atm. You might be right about Chezinu, but IMO there are too many unanswered questions about him, his nuke etc. to pass judgement yet. For all we know, it might even be a passable time-bomb or something like that (Vayne suggested that I think?). If I do indeed detonate, come deadline, you have my permission to tunnel him to death  I can agree on NG. His vote for Onegu felt more like a throwaway scum vote than actually caring if he's scum or not. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On July 08 2013 22:02 Xatalos wrote: You might be right about Chezinu, but IMO there are too many unanswered questions about him, his nuke etc. to pass judgement yet. For all we know, it might even be a passable time-bomb or something like that (Vayne suggested that I think?). If I do indeed detonate, come deadline, you have my permission to tunnel him to death I can agree on NG. His vote for Onegu felt more like a throwaway scum vote than actually caring if he's scum or not. That's why i said he needs to claim whatever it is after nukes can be no more sent in (which is now). Or his reasons for nuking you from all the people. | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
My thought process is that if there are many of Day 1 nukes, the scum could have one, and the play from johnnywup makes sense from the view point of a scum needing to fire nukes and arguing OMGUS on his lynch "bandwagon" and looking for any ground to justify someone to nuke. All his scumhunting logic is terrible. "2 or 3 scum going to bandwagon together on the first day?" That's highly unlikely. Scum are more likely to distance themselves from each other to sow confusion rather than appear as a bloc to the community. Scum day one distance each other. If multiple nukes do not explode, we're left with either a true deadline claim and town or scum or a false deadline claim and scum from one person (and maybe Chez - but Chez fired almost immediately so that might be even earlier of a deadline). Although it is speculation, I don't think lonely scum Day 1 deadline is likely at all in the setup and I'm eliminating putting aside that possibility. A false claim strategy from scum just doesn't make any sense, and I don't see them pulling it off. That leaves with only the town possibility. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On July 08 2013 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's why i said he needs to claim whatever it is after nukes can be no more sent in (which is now). Or his reasons for nuking you from all the people. Yeah, he really needs to. In fact, if he doesn't start making sense before deadline, I might be inclined to lynch him anyway. As town, he should start giving the thread something to work with at some point (right about now would be a good time). If he keeps quiet/nonsensible until deadline, it could be a sign of him being scum and refusing town information. So far his attitude could have been just towny trolling and/or saving relevant information for the last 12 hours of D1, but now he should be stepping up his play already. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 08 2013 06:15 austinmcc wrote: As far as I can tell, you gave three reasons for thinking I'm scummy. I'm basically just asking filler questions I'm not scumhunting/putting in effort I am not my townie self/I am not playing in accordance with my town meta My last sentence is in relation to your first reason for thinking I'm scum. If my questions are filler, they don't matter, and I'm not going anywhere with them. However, if you're actually interested in the answers to my questions, then they don't seem like they are filler. If you're not interested in the answers to my questions, I ... I dunno, I think you should be. As far as meta, go look at any larger game. Especially a larger game where I don't know 1/2 or 2/3 the people. My play in a single medium-size game, where I was blue, and almost got lynched because I was an idiot, doesn't seem like the perfect point of comparison. Or go look at my scum games. I was interested in what exactly you were pulling meta from, seeing as it appears to be a large part of your reason for voting me. That's it, was just poking at your reasons for voting me. austin, I don't think you can get away with justifying your play here with a "go look at my town meta in a larger game". Here's your filter from Liquid City: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260&user=austinmcc You seemed a ton more interested in the game. Here the only part where I felt you interested is when you were defending yourself. Can you give me something on Alaskaslam? You had some interaction with him, and I'd like to know your opinion on him atm. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 08 2013 06:17 Xatalos wrote: Not sure if I said anything about Ace before, but actually I get the feeling he's probably town. I see no reason for him to engage in the discussion to defend you like that unless you're both scum or both town. Currently leaning both town, so there's that. This is a post from a while back but I feel I want to dig a little deeper. My main concern with Ace at the moment is that he defended rayn at a moment in which he was under heavy aggression. Now, if I do this as a townie, the main thing I want to do is redirect attention from rayn towards something else. But his following posts do not indicate this: clicky He's not trying to steer the thread anywhere. As town I feel that letting people pressure rayn is much more natural, for me to get a better read. It's small, but I not comfortable with calling him "probably town". What do you think? | ||
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Stutters695
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Which nuke do I destroy!. Im currently going with the xalatos one because Chez scumread is stronger than Johnny scumread ESPECIALLY since johnny seems to be posting, I feel that I can get a more confident read on johnny later. Also chez has never ever ever explained why xalatos past CHEZINU RULE. I dont buy it. Nope. Discuss. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:10 Oatsmaster wrote: guysss I have a 1shot anti nuke thing. so I can shoot down nukes Which nuke do I destroy!. Im currently going with the xalatos one because Chez scumread is stronger than Johnny scumread ESPECIALLY since johnny seems to be posting, I feel that I can get a more confident read on johnny later. Also chez has never ever ever explained why xalatos past CHEZINU RULE. I dont buy it. Nope. Discuss. Isn't the nuke deadline over already?  | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Oatsmaster
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