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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 14 2013 17:40 GMT
#701
On May 15 2013 02:38 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:37 ThomasjServo wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:35 heartagram wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:34 ThomasjServo wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:32 heartagram wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:28 ThomasjServo wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:27 heartagram wrote:
Damn, woke up late. How badly did TLO cheese out forGG?

He didn't, he beat him straight up.


ah, I guess TLO made it to ultras then

Damn. That's pretty disappointing. forGG my favorite player, but I guess I have to let him go now I could live with him getting cheesed out at Dreamhack, but this loss kinda bad.



TLO figured out his build. Singular, he was out played in just about every sense. I don't see ForGG getting out if his TvT isn't on par with these other Terran.



TvT's always been his best m/u by far. I think he will be fine. I hope he plays TLO again. He is the better player time for him to show it!

TLO out of this group 2-0 imo, his ZvT looks good enough. 2-1 if MMA gets to the winners match.


I think Strelok has the best chance to beat TLO, just because of the mech style against which TLO could not practice that much.

Hard to account for mech in ZvT with how prevalent bio mine is in the match up now. I think TLO's vetos will come into play heavily. [Insert Terran Here] won't give him Whirlwind, and he won't let Strelok specifically have Akilon.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
May 14 2013 17:40 GMT
#702
World of Tanks?
Starcraft 2?

Strelok says: "F*** that, I can play both at once!"
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 14 2013 17:41 GMT
#703
On May 15 2013 02:39 Shodaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:38 Cereb wrote:
I don't understand how strelok's army keeps winning in unseiged positions...Did hellbat change mech this much?


Hellbat tanks a lot of damage and they also get healed by medivac, so yes, quite a big change compared to the fragile hellions of WoL.



Makes sense...But Bio is indeed still the most popular in TvT, or ?
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
May 14 2013 17:41 GMT
#704
Fortress Europe's portcullises are manned by many a Hellbat.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
May 14 2013 17:41 GMT
#705
On May 15 2013 02:40 Kasaraki wrote:
Strelok plays well, but I don't get his gameplan, starve out the opponent?

Get to air.

Going to have to retry mech TvT after this, hellbat drops on bio...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11133 Posts
May 14 2013 17:41 GMT
#706
On May 15 2013 02:38 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:38 RookUK wrote:
I love Strelok's double PF play - maybe he's been watching some Ketroc?

What's a Ketroc?

Mid-masters Terran who wins games with mass PF and Skyterran while playing with like 5 apm. He streams quite often. Watching him play is a surreal experience.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97274 Posts
May 14 2013 17:41 GMT
#707
On May 15 2013 02:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS EU] Ro16 Group A Premier
[image loading] (T)MMA vs [image loading] (T)Strelok
Game 1
Map: Akilon Wastes

0:00
MMA spawns in the top left
Strelok spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for MMA
rax first for Strelok
gas for Strelok

2:00
gas for MMA

3:00
Factory for Strelok
reactor for MMA
reactor for Strelok
CC on the high ground for MMa

4:00
Factory for MMA
Strelok sends 2 marines and an scv across the map to check for a natural CC
he sees none
CC on the low ground for Strelok
reactored hellion production started for Strelok
Strelok floating out his rax
bunker in the natural for Strelok

5:00
Starport for MMA
armory for Strelok
Starport for Strelok
marines of MMA deny Strelok's hellions from entering the natural

6:00
viking for MMA
2nd gas for MMA
medivac for strelok
double hellbat production for Strelok

7:00
viking for Strelok
2nd viking for MMA
siege tank started for MMA
hellbat drop in the natural of MMA
MMA defends easily

8:00
3rd CC started for MMA
3rd CC for Strelok
2 more factories for Strelok
2 more gas for Strelok

9:00
2 more rax for MMA
double ebay for MMA
ebay for Strelok
+1 vehicle weapons for Strelok
another factory for Strelok

10:00
1-1 started for MMA
double tank production started for Strelok
missile turrets started for Strelok
2 more rax for MMA
combat shields for MMA
stim research for MMA
Strelok taking his 3rd base
MMA taking his 3rd base

11:00
widow mine production started for Strelok
reactored viking production for Strelok
auto tracking for Strelok
armory for MMA
Marauder production started for MMA

12:00
another 2 factories for Strelok
MMA starting to move across the map

13:00
2nd factory for MMA
+2 armor for MMA
4th CC for MMA
+2 vehicle weapons for Strelok
sensor tower finishes for Strelok
+2 attack started for MMA
MMA sets up a siege ling outside Strelok's natural

14:00
concussive shells for MMA
quad hellbat drop on the tnaks of MMA
Strelok comes down his natural ramp and pushes back the army of MMA
4th CC started for Strelok
+1 vehicle weapons for MMA

15:00
5th CC for Strelok
missile turrets deny a drop at the natural of Strelok

16:00
Strelok starting to push out as he maxes out
another factory for Strelok
MMa going for a counter attack
Strelok turns around to engage
MMa catches the tanks of Strelok unsieged

17:00
reinforcements of Strelok flank the army of MMA
Strelok takes a 30 supply lead
4th bases landed for each player
PF morphing at Strelok's 4th
Strelok pushing the natural of MMA

18:00
medivacs boost forward and drop hellbats on the tanks of MMA
MMA loads up his bio and boosts it out of his base to set up a flank
+1 ship weapons for Strelok
reinforcements of Strelok are being picked off by MMA's bio
tanks siege up and MMa has to back off

19:00
2 more starports for Strelok
+3 attack started for MMA
Strelok repositioning his army closer to MMA's natural
Marauder drop on the army of Strelok
MMA comes down his natural ramp
MMA isnt able to break the contain
Strelok up 40 supply

20:00
another CC for Strelok
Strelok drops more hellbats on the tanks of MMA
vikings take out the medivacs of MMA
+3 vehicle weapons started for Strelok

21:00
MMA trying to flank with another bio group but Strelok scouts it
Strelok is maxed again
MMa down to 3 medivacs

22:00
Marauder drop on the tanks of Strelok
reinforcements come forward to Strelok but Strelok gives up his position
5th base taken for Strelok
double raven production for Strelok
corvid reactor for Strelok

23:00
+3 armor for MMA
another CC for Strelok
another factory for Strelok
CC for MMA
Strelok pushing forward again
MMA is sieged and ready

24:00
bio force runby at the 5th of Strelok kills a building cc
PF forces the bio back
building armor for Strelok
2 more CCs for Strelok
both players are maxed

25:00
hellbat drop on the army of MMA
Strelok moves in with his tanks
MMA's army is cleaned up
bio tank attack at the 5th of Strelok is repelled
Strelok takes a 25 supply lead
+2 ship weapons for Strelok
MMA lands his 5th base

26:00
2nd armory for Strelok
another engagement in the middle of the map
pdds go down for Strelok
drop at the 5th of Strelok

27:00
6th base taken by Strelok
+2 vehicle weapons for MMA
+1 vehicle armor for Strelok

28:00
MMA double drops the main but 1 is killed by a missile turret
armory researching +2 ship weapons is killed

29:00
MMA scouts the 6th of Strelok and kills it
Strelok kills the 5th of MMA
Strelok rebuilding an armory
MMA attacking at the 5th of Strelok

30:00
armies engage outside Strelok's natural
pdds go down
MMA runs into the natural with his maruaders
MMa loses all of his tanks
Strelok is 50 supply ahead
Strelok cleans up the attack of MMA
MMA lands a new 5th base

31:00
Strelok starting to move out on the map again
Strelok is maxed vs 160 supply
another CC for Strelok

32:00
Strelok scans and sees the 5th of MMA
MMA going for a bio tank counter attack
Strelok sends a number of tanks home
Strelok pushes the 5th of MMA
+3 vehicle weapons for MMA
MMA trying ot break into the 4th of Strelok
MMA loses his tanks with his forward army

33:00
MMa regroups his army outside of his natural
Strelok racing MMA's OC to take the top center base
Strelok kills MMA's OC
thor started for Strelok

34:00
Marauder drop on a few tanks at strelok's 6th
hellbat drop on the army of MMA

35:00
MMA is able to hold his position because Strelok's tanks were too far behind
6th base of Strelok is killed
MMA lands a new 5th base in the bottom left
hellbats find the scv overloaded 5th base of MMA
marauders save scvs from a fiery death
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
May 14 2013 17:41 GMT
#708
MMA needs to not do ~2 medievac drops but rather like ~6 medievac drops. If you managed to unload ~4 of those in the main they still do devastating damage.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
May 14 2013 17:42 GMT
#709
On May 15 2013 02:41 Cereb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:39 Shodaa wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:38 Cereb wrote:
I don't understand how strelok's army keeps winning in unseiged positions...Did hellbat change mech this much?


Hellbat tanks a lot of damage and they also get healed by medivac, so yes, quite a big change compared to the fragile hellions of WoL.



Makes sense...But Bio is indeed still the most popular in TvT, or ?

Doesn't really matter if its popular lol.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
ChemBroTron
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany194 Posts
May 14 2013 17:42 GMT
#710
I understand now, why Koreans chose AM over EU...
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland11727 Posts
May 14 2013 17:42 GMT
#711
On May 15 2013 02:39 Salteador Neo wrote:
Pretty cool to see mech can be badass and strong in one matchup at least :D


Strelok does that in every match-up and pretty much crushes so far...
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 14 2013 17:42 GMT
#712
On May 15 2013 02:41 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:40 Kasaraki wrote:
Strelok plays well, but I don't get his gameplan, starve out the opponent?

Get to air.

Going to have to retry mech TvT after this, hellbat drops on bio...

its building hellbats until u win
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#713
On May 15 2013 02:40 Kasaraki wrote:
Strelok plays well, but I don't get his gameplan, starve out the opponent?


Ofc, starving out your opponent isn't just one of the oldest strategies in RTS play, it's one of the oldest strategies in armed conflict the world over.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97274 Posts
May 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#714
On May 15 2013 02:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS EU] Ro16 Group A Premier
[image loading] (T)MMA vs [image loading] (T)Strelok
Game 1
Map: Akilon Wastes

0:00
MMA spawns in the top left
Strelok spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for MMA
rax first for Strelok
gas for Strelok

2:00
gas for MMA

3:00
Factory for Strelok
reactor for MMA
reactor for Strelok
CC on the high ground for MMa

4:00
Factory for MMA
Strelok sends 2 marines and an scv across the map to check for a natural CC
he sees none
CC on the low ground for Strelok
reactored hellion production started for Strelok
Strelok floating out his rax
bunker in the natural for Strelok

5:00
Starport for MMA
armory for Strelok
Starport for Strelok
marines of MMA deny Strelok's hellions from entering the natural

6:00
viking for MMA
2nd gas for MMA
medivac for strelok
double hellbat production for Strelok

7:00
viking for Strelok
2nd viking for MMA
siege tank started for MMA
hellbat drop in the natural of MMA
MMA defends easily

8:00
3rd CC started for MMA
3rd CC for Strelok
2 more factories for Strelok
2 more gas for Strelok

9:00
2 more rax for MMA
double ebay for MMA
ebay for Strelok
+1 vehicle weapons for Strelok
another factory for Strelok

10:00
1-1 started for MMA
double tank production started for Strelok
missile turrets started for Strelok
2 more rax for MMA
combat shields for MMA
stim research for MMA
Strelok taking his 3rd base
MMA taking his 3rd base

11:00
widow mine production started for Strelok
reactored viking production for Strelok
auto tracking for Strelok
armory for MMA
Marauder production started for MMA

12:00
another 2 factories for Strelok
MMA starting to move across the map

13:00
2nd factory for MMA
+2 armor for MMA
4th CC for MMA
+2 vehicle weapons for Strelok
sensor tower finishes for Strelok
+2 attack started for MMA
MMA sets up a siege ling outside Strelok's natural

14:00
concussive shells for MMA
quad hellbat drop on the tnaks of MMA
Strelok comes down his natural ramp and pushes back the army of MMA
4th CC started for Strelok
+1 vehicle weapons for MMA

15:00
5th CC for Strelok
missile turrets deny a drop at the natural of Strelok

16:00
Strelok starting to push out as he maxes out
another factory for Strelok
MMa going for a counter attack
Strelok turns around to engage
MMa catches the tanks of Strelok unsieged

17:00
reinforcements of Strelok flank the army of MMA
Strelok takes a 30 supply lead
4th bases landed for each player
PF morphing at Strelok's 4th
Strelok pushing the natural of MMA

18:00
medivacs boost forward and drop hellbats on the tanks of MMA
MMA loads up his bio and boosts it out of his base to set up a flank
+1 ship weapons for Strelok
reinforcements of Strelok are being picked off by MMA's bio
tanks siege up and MMa has to back off

19:00
2 more starports for Strelok
+3 attack started for MMA
Strelok repositioning his army closer to MMA's natural
Marauder drop on the army of Strelok
MMA comes down his natural ramp
MMA isnt able to break the contain
Strelok up 40 supply

20:00
another CC for Strelok
Strelok drops more hellbats on the tanks of MMA
vikings take out the medivacs of MMA
+3 vehicle weapons started for Strelok

21:00
MMA trying to flank with another bio group but Strelok scouts it
Strelok is maxed again
MMa down to 3 medivacs

22:00
Marauder drop on the tanks of Strelok
reinforcements come forward to Strelok but Strelok gives up his position
5th base taken for Strelok
double raven production for Strelok
corvid reactor for Strelok

23:00
+3 armor for MMA
another CC for Strelok
another factory for Strelok
CC for MMA
Strelok pushing forward again
MMA is sieged and ready

24:00
bio force runby at the 5th of Strelok kills a building cc
PF forces the bio back
building armor for Strelok
2 more CCs for Strelok
both players are maxed

25:00
hellbat drop on the army of MMA
Strelok moves in with his tanks
MMA's army is cleaned up
bio tank attack at the 5th of Strelok is repelled
Strelok takes a 25 supply lead
+2 ship weapons for Strelok
MMA lands his 5th base

26:00
2nd armory for Strelok
another engagement in the middle of the map
pdds go down for Strelok
drop at the 5th of Strelok

27:00
6th base taken by Strelok
+2 vehicle weapons for MMA
+1 vehicle armor for Strelok

28:00
MMA double drops the main but 1 is killed by a missile turret
armory researching +2 ship weapons is killed

29:00
MMA scouts the 6th of Strelok and kills it
Strelok kills the 5th of MMA
Strelok rebuilding an armory
MMA attacking at the 5th of Strelok

30:00
armies engage outside Strelok's natural
pdds go down
MMA runs into the natural with his maruaders
MMa loses all of his tanks
Strelok is 50 supply ahead
Strelok cleans up the attack of MMA
MMA lands a new 5th base

31:00
Strelok starting to move out on the map again
Strelok is maxed vs 160 supply
another CC for Strelok

32:00
Strelok scans and sees the 5th of MMA
MMA going for a bio tank counter attack
Strelok sends a number of tanks home
Strelok pushes the 5th of MMA
+3 vehicle weapons for MMA
MMA trying ot break into the 4th of Strelok
MMA loses his tanks with his forward army

33:00
MMa regroups his army outside of his natural
Strelok racing MMA's OC to take the top center base
Strelok kills MMA's OC
thor started for Strelok

34:00
Marauder drop on a few tanks at strelok's 6th
hellbat drop on the army of MMA

35:00
MMA is able to hold his position because Strelok's tanks were too far behind
6th base of Strelok is killed
MMA lands a new 5th base in the bottom left
hellbats find the scv overloaded 5th base of MMA
marauders save scvs from a fiery death

36:00
Strelok moving his whole army towards MMA's mining base
MMA positions his army to defend
PDD and hellbat drop force
MMA trying to kite back
Strelok 100 supply ahead
MMA has no tanks left
no medivacs left

37:00
MMA retreats behind the PF at his 5th
Strelok moving his army forward
MMA sending his bio on a counter attack
Strelok sieges up the last base of MMA
MMA ggs!
Strelok wins game 1!
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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
May 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#715
Strelok doesn't know how to end a game it seems.

Was over when he was sitting at mma his 4th if he did.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
May 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#716
Well played Strelok!
All I do is Stim.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#717
YES! I love watching Koreans lose! :D
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
May 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#718
On May 15 2013 02:40 iSunrise wrote:
World of Tanks?
Starcraft 2?

Strelok says: "F*** that, I can play both at once!"


lollol that was a good one
Sc2 always got your back
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
May 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#719
Poll: Recommend MMA vs Strelok Game 1?

Yes (26)
 
76%

No (5)
 
15%

If you have time (3)
 
9%

34 total votes

Your vote: Recommend MMA vs Strelok Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
May 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#720
no lag no nothing and no reason for anyone to blame the foreign wins as "lag" "luck" or whatever ! sol nice !

i wish i can be in colonge next days i must be there !!!
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
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