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On February 02 2013 17:24 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
I can only speak for the N1 shot.
Also, there were 3 reasons for not shooting ...Mocsta (I said so in the previous post but whatever):
3)That "unexplained" thing I mentioned before.
Awww.. how cute. I made such a good impression on Chez he wanted to keep me alive
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People lynching second left mafia and voting double lynch was quite funny.
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@Gonzaw: well, part of the problem was that your whole plan went south and you *should* have spent a lot more effort on bussing Oats D3. As it was, your strategy was bad for the following reasons:
1. When a strong town leader was elected, you made him unkillable by electing the one scum who survived longest, making the town leader essentially unkillable until lylo. This caused you unending problems when town happily went along lynching scum under the illustrious leader.
2. You didn't take out the DT when he was confirming greens left right and center. Given that Axle was scum it should have been quite clear on D2 that there was probably no medic, and crystal clear on D3. Yet Vivax lived on.
3. You didn't deal with the strong townies and instead wiped out weak ones. Now there's a billion posts in the scumQT, so I didn't read it and assume you had some reason for hitting JieXian, but he was a potential mislynch with quite a few people wanting him dead, whereas austin had almost been elected sheriff. Why not kill him?
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On February 02 2013 21:49 Acrofales wrote: @Gonzaw: well, part of the problem was that your whole plan went south and you *should* have spent a lot more effort on bussing Oats D3. As it was, your strategy was bad for the following reasons:
1. When a strong town leader was elected, you made him unkillable by electing the one scum who survived longest, making the town leader essentially unkillable until lylo. This caused you unending problems when town happily went along lynching scum under the illustrious leader.
2. You didn't take out the DT when he was confirming greens left right and center. Given that Axle was scum it should have been quite clear on D2 that there was probably no medic, and crystal clear on D3. Yet Vivax lived on.
3. You didn't deal with the strong townies and instead wiped out weak ones. Now there's a billion posts in the scumQT, so I didn't read it and assume you had some reason for hitting JieXian, but he was a potential mislynch with quite a few people wanting him dead, whereas austin had almost been elected sheriff. Why not kill him? JX wasn't a potential mislynch... I know for a fact that Sandro and I both had him down as town once the d1 lynched showed up as red and I'm pretty sure marv / WBG were smart enough to figure it out themselves as well.
The JX hit was weird, but not bad as he was pretty certainly town at that point in time. The n1 hits were just atrocious though. If they singlestack sandro might as well singlestack bugs to make sure to get at least one in worst case scenario.
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The not taking out Vivax was my fault, I was pretty sure that Vivax wont check me, forgot about him confirming townies :/ Well Bugs didnt actually push any scum lynch and hard defended me so I do think leaving him alive was decent. The sandro kill was lucky though :D
Overall, SCUM PLAYED HORRIBLY. And this is what happens when town is UNITED and yeah roflstomp ensues.
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Why don't you guys read the post I made in the previous page about the N1 night kills?
On February 02 2013 21:49 Acrofales wrote: @Gonzaw: well, part of the problem was that your whole plan went south and you *should* have spent a lot more effort on bussing Oats D3. As it was, your strategy was bad for the following reasons:
1. When a strong town leader was elected, you made him unkillable by electing the one scum who survived longest, making the town leader essentially unkillable until lylo. This caused you unending problems when town happily went along lynching scum under the illustrious leader.
2. You didn't take out the DT when he was confirming greens left right and center. Given that Axle was scum it should have been quite clear on D2 that there was probably no medic, and crystal clear on D3. Yet Vivax lived on.
3. You didn't deal with the strong townies and instead wiped out weak ones. Now there's a billion posts in the scumQT, so I didn't read it and assume you had some reason for hitting JieXian, but he was a potential mislynch with quite a few people wanting him dead, whereas austin had almost been elected sheriff. Why not kill him?
1)The point was to make him killable by having 1 scum BG that would have died pretty soon. Me dying before Oats was not the plan at all. It was the reverse. Also, I imagine people would WIFOM themselves into thinking I'm confirmed town or some shit if Oats flipped scum
2)Yeah this is right. Talk to my other buddies about it I didn't know who the fuck the DT was on N1 or if there even was one
3) Check previous page. So you suggest austin should have been N1 kill? Yeah perhaps. However Toad clearly said austin and me should have protection, he was JK. I KNEW he'd JK sandro/wbg/me/austin, we were already taking a huge risk in shooting sandro. I wouldn't take a second huge risk in shooting another guy in his list, AND in the medic lists (we didn't know there was no medic at that time of course)
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On February 02 2013 18:30 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 17:24 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
I can only speak for the N1 shot.
Also, there were 3 reasons for not shooting ...Mocsta (I said so in the previous post but whatever):
3)That "unexplained" thing I mentioned before. Awww.. how cute. I made such a good impression on Chez he wanted to keep me alive Actually, I just didn't want them to kill yams. You can read the scum qt, hehe.
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I wanted yams alive. We knew 5 blue roles before the end of day 1 (I listed them in scum qt). I wanted to kill vivax (which would have prevented him dting gonzaw in retrospect) and then another blue. People keep saying I was "lurking." This is not true. A better term would be Inactive.
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wait what, I didn't push any scum lynch?
So me pushing prpl, chez, and gonzaw was not pushing scum? lol
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On February 03 2013 04:34 wherebugsgo wrote: wait what, I didn't push any scum lynch?
So me pushing prpl, chez, and gonzaw was not pushing scum? lol
You've seriously been underplaying yourself in this post-game. You're not "terrible town" at all, just because you had a few bad town games.
You led me to prplhz, and you were the main pusher of Chez. Your only mistake at all was Oats.
I also relied on you particularly heavily for your austin read. We both read the situation the same, but at the point there were like 4 players all heavily attacking austin, it was knowing that you had agreed with me that led me to be confident and hard-defend austin during that stage of the game. That was really, really, helpful.
You were killed off first in Bureaucracy, and early here - on your game, you are definitely a 'power player'. !
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On February 03 2013 02:37 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:Why don't you guys read the post I made in the previous page about the N1 night kills? Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 21:49 Acrofales wrote: @Gonzaw: well, part of the problem was that your whole plan went south and you *should* have spent a lot more effort on bussing Oats D3. As it was, your strategy was bad for the following reasons:
1. When a strong town leader was elected, you made him unkillable by electing the one scum who survived longest, making the town leader essentially unkillable until lylo. This caused you unending problems when town happily went along lynching scum under the illustrious leader.
2. You didn't take out the DT when he was confirming greens left right and center. Given that Axle was scum it should have been quite clear on D2 that there was probably no medic, and crystal clear on D3. Yet Vivax lived on.
3. You didn't deal with the strong townies and instead wiped out weak ones. Now there's a billion posts in the scumQT, so I didn't read it and assume you had some reason for hitting JieXian, but he was a potential mislynch with quite a few people wanting him dead, whereas austin had almost been elected sheriff. Why not kill him? 1)The point was to make him killable by having 1 scum BG that would have died pretty soon. Me dying before Oats was not the plan at all. It was the reverse. Also, I imagine people would WIFOM themselves into thinking I'm confirmed town or some shit if Oats flipped scum 2)Yeah this is right. Talk to my other buddies about it I didn't know who the fuck the DT was on N1 or if there even was one 3) Check previous page. So you suggest austin should have been N1 kill? Yeah perhaps. However Toad clearly said austin and me should have protection, he was JK. I KNEW he'd JK sandro/wbg/me/austin, we were already taking a huge risk in shooting sandro. I wouldn't take a second huge risk in shooting another guy in his list, AND in the medic lists (we didn't know there was no medic at that time of course) i never considered you / austin, I just told you that they might need protection as well, which again should mean I'm going to protect either bugs or Sandro.
It was a 50/50 between jailing Sandro, for me personally leading on Sandro but he asked me to protect bugs instead multiple times, so that's why But you could not have known that I guess.
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Right, because I, as scum, should obviously assume that you are telling the truth about protections at night in the thread and in no way possible you could maybe try to outsmart scum with it.
My bad
/G
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On February 03 2013 09:17 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:Right, because I, as scum, should obviously assume that you are telling the truth about protections at night in the thread and in no way possible you could maybe try to outsmart scum with it. My bad /G we tried. That's why the protection was on WBG and not on Sandro
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Read the scum qt hahah, was so close to Oats conceding.. SO CLOSE!!
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