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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
why was the word possible used? ITS A CULT! | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On June 17 2012 10:22 Drazerk wrote: also does this mean we find out the actual allies when we kill Hiro? except for possible allies. If a player has an ally/partner/buddy/friend it won't be revealed on death. | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
On June 17 2012 10:05 Drazerk wrote: I should read the thread but that is too much effort ... I remember trying to lynch you in Steamship for this kind of posting. People just said, nah that's just how Drazerk plays. There's no need to be lazy though. -_- Is anyone else around atm? The thread's gone pretty quiet, let's try and get some constructive discussion going. I would like to hear some more opinnions on Nisanis and Kharadbanars haste in allying with an unknown faction, especially this early in the game. Personally, I don't like their decision at all. We have very little information about the House, because honestly, most of HiroPro's posts about it have been flavour and nonsense. It may turn out that HiroPro and his House turn out to be a good resource for town. Until I know more about it, however, I'm staying well clear. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On June 17 2012 10:50 xsksc wrote: ... I remember trying to lynch you in Steamship for this kind of posting. People just said, nah that's just how Drazerk plays. There's no need to be lazy though. -_- Is anyone else around atm? The thread's gone pretty quiet, let's try and get some constructive discussion going. I would like to hear some more opinnions on Nisanis and Kharadbanars haste in allying with an unknown faction, especially this early in the game. Personally, I don't like their decision at all. We have very little information about the House, because honestly, most of HiroPro's posts about it have been flavour and nonsense. It may turn out that HiroPro and his House turn out to be a good resource for town. Until I know more about it, however, I'm staying well clear. Well allying such a shady group is weird but there's no real downside to it as the alliance is so far just empty words. I can see why they did it. Honestly I think that the house won't really do anything to help Nisani and KB. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
 Or if I wake up early enough, I guess I could also try to get it in just before the deadline.- House Chezinu, 5th Party | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On June 17 2012 10:50 xsksc wrote: ... I remember trying to lynch you in Steamship for this kind of posting. People just said, nah that's just how Drazerk plays. There's no need to be lazy though. -_- Is anyone else around atm? The thread's gone pretty quiet, let's try and get some constructive discussion going. I would like to hear some more opinnions on Nisanis and Kharadbanars haste in allying with an unknown faction, especially this early in the game. Personally, I don't like their decision at all. We have very little information about the House, because honestly, most of HiroPro's posts about it have been flavour and nonsense. It may turn out that HiroPro and his House turn out to be a good resource for town. Until I know more about it, however, I'm staying well clear. What's more interesting is that the idea of an "alliance" even existed, at least in Nisani's mind. My bet is that both of them are part of other "houses" or something. Third party, scum, whatever and knew from their role PMs that other houses exist and that house Chezinu was one of them. Dunno. ________________ Reading between the lines, can we all agree that House Chezinu is supposed to be the rich merchant faction that's on no one's side blahblahblah? They probably have a vote-controlling power, given HiroPro's thing about them being powerful at lynches. So they can "buy" votes and therefore change the votecounts. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4261 Posts
On June 17 2012 05:15 KharadBanar wrote: Welp, there goes my "ignoring The HOUSE" stance, because I want to explain myself: I bother with the extended spiel about giving info to scum because I do not think everyone in this thread had realised this by then. The scum team would presumably be very interested in getting one (exactly one) of their players into The HOUSE so they can use him as an information link between all the players in The HOUSE and their own team. We (the town players) are all on our own until we join The HOUSE, but when we join The HOUSE to have a side conversation in there, that one scum player will be very happy to listen in on that and pass it on to his team mates. This is why I don't think that joining The HOUSE is advantageous to us. Finally, if we look at the extreme case where everyone but the anti-HOUSE players joins The HOUSE, we have a very weird situation where (I think) the Board of The HOUSE knows everyone's alignment but everyone else doesn't, and I have no idea who would profit from that but I don't want to try it out. I just wanted to "crap on about how they can't tell everything" because I thought about the issue and wanted to share my thoughts about it with you, which doesn't strike me as a very bad thing to do. Oh wow words words words this makes me think something is off about you even more. If we have any blues please kill/check him tonight. Talismani, I don't have this information so are this king and monarchist activist person you speak of related or unrelated? My wikipedia search of what a monarchist activist is says that they support the crown, but may also support someone who has been deposed or rightfully belongs there Does the monarchist activist support the current King or another one? I am guessing another one, as you say some people need to kill the activist. It makes sense that the current King and his subjects would want any challengers dead. Furthermore, HiroPro I'm guessing you aren't the king himself but are allied with him/her? | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
Can house chezinu and its allies communicate through PMs? On June 17 2012 04:53 HiroPro wrote: We are House Chezinu, 5th Party. That is all I am permitted to say. Portals of the past may aid you in learning about us. The number of board members will not be released. My personal win condition is to improve House Chezinu, 5th Party. Acceptable members joining obviously furthers this goal. Your claimed win condition is compatible with House Chezinu, 5th Party. Anti-town forces possess killing power which can harm the members of House Chezinu, 5th Party and their removal is beneficial. We are pleased to see the interest in joining and aiding House Chezinu, 5th Party. However, several individuals ask questions which can already be answered by reading the personal filter of Director of Recruitment/Funding HiroPro. Please do this. I am taking a lunch break and will be back in ~45 minutes. Reads to me like he needs to keep someone alive to win the game. Somehow it fits well with DropBear's condition. What is House Chezinu's stance regarding the Monarch activist and the King | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On June 17 2012 11:47 DropBear wrote: Oh wow words words words this makes me think something is off about you even more. If we have any blues please kill/check him tonight. Talismani, I don't have this information so are this king and monarchist activist person you speak of related or unrelated? My wikipedia search of what a monarchist activist is says that they support the crown, but may also support someone who has been deposed or rightfully belongs there Does the monarchist activist support the current King or another one? I am guessing another one, as you say some people need to kill the activist. It makes sense that the current King and his subjects would want any challengers dead. Furthermore, HiroPro I'm guessing you aren't the king himself but are allied with him/her? I don't know anything other than that they exist, that other people know about the MA, and that some of the people that know about him are trying to kill him. Acrofales posted that it was his impression that the MA gets to select the king. I don't know if he just figured that out on his own or if that information was contained in his role pm. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On June 17 2012 07:31 Acrofales wrote: Yeah, insofar as I can figure out, killing the MA would be a bad thing for town. I have no clue what he or the king are supposed to do. I am not going to discuss this further at night either. In fact, I'm going to bed. I kind of get not wanting to talk about this at night, but for when you get back - why do you say this? What makes you think the monarchist is town aligned? | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5201 Posts
Vanilla Townie here. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5201 Posts
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On June 17 2012 14:06 EchelonTee wrote: Isn't House Chezinu that 5th party mason circle from Aperture Mafia? Which means they are the good guys? That would explain Hiro's "portals to the past" remark. Not sure it says anything about alignment. I'm betting neutral. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5201 Posts
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
On June 17 2012 14:06 EchelonTee wrote: Isn't House Chezinu that 5th party mason circle from Aperture Mafia? Which means they are the good guys? Chezinu's filter from Merc Mini 2 Hiro's tone/playstyle is very similar to Chezinu's in Merc Mini 2. In that game Chezinu claimed to be a "bank" who provided real-time item transactions. He really did have that ability, but he was also a bulletproof serial killer... | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
On June 17 2012 14:06 EchelonTee wrote: Isn't House Chezinu that 5th party mason circle from Aperture Mafia? Which means they are the good guys? Do you have a link/proof? For those of us bastards not in the loop? Not doubting you, just want as much info as possible. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On June 17 2012 14:13 EchelonTee wrote: Well I am leaning they are not Anti-Town. Which means Town people need not be concerned with them. People discrediting them look bad to me atm. It's bad to doubt a group that's withholding information about its purpose, members, and capabilities? | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
Are there any scenarios in which Town's interests and the House Chezinu's interests would go against each other? Can you give me an example of this (if it is possible)? | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On June 17 2012 14:27 BioSC wrote: Do you have a link/proof? For those of us bastards not in the loop? Not doubting you, just want as much info as possible. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14201741 and also http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11960700 So older ppl can definitely correct me, but as far as I can tell "house chezinu" was originally an imaginary scum faction that was invented by WBG or someone in PYP: interesting. I think he recruited people into their QT and then they infiltrated the other scum factions. It's pretty confusing and I'm too tired to figure out exactly what happened. Then "house chezinu" was used as an external town faction in Aperture mafia, where they had a QT which they used productively to confirm each other as town. So this could be nonsense, but I expect that the Chezinu QT this time around has both scum and town in it. Or at least, we can't rule out the possibility. We should look carefully at people who either want to stifle discussion of Chezinu, or who claim not to be affiliated with it but seem to know too much about it. I don't see townies would want to keep it secret, but scum could conceivably want to use it to become "confirmed" to the townies in it. | ||
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