(jk, ppl take ladder bm seriosuly for no reason, very unnecessary)
Orb, racist remarks on ladder and personal stream - Page 34
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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations. | ||
Geo.Rion
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(jk, ppl take ladder bm seriosuly for no reason, very unnecessary) | ||
SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
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Bidj
France98 Posts
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
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AdrianHealey
Belgium480 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:35 Xann wrote: My ancestors were enslaved by the white man, and here we have the white man spreading racial hatred and the white man is excusing it, telling us to grow up. We need to take a stand against this hatred. Gonna boycott EG and their sponsors if they aren't going to address this properly. This is pretty collectivist. 'The white men' who enslaved your ancestors are dead. The 'white men' who want to enslave you are less then 1%. (There are still racists, true.) The 'white men' helped, together with other black and hispanics and many more different kind of racial origins, to elect a black person to be the most powerful person in the world. You have no right to act like a victim just because your ancestors were. We need to make a stand against hatred. Using a racial slur, however, is not the same as hating other races. It is just that. A slur. As long as people will find a way to think in a collectivist way regarding these issues, these issues won't die. | ||
Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:35 Xann wrote: My ancestors were enslaved by the white man, and here we have the white man spreading racial hatred and the white man is excusing it, telling us to grow up. We need to take a stand against this hatred. Gonna boycott EG and their sponsors if they aren't going to address this properly. Boycotting Intel? Shut down your computer immediately. Now. Your motherboard probably has an intel chip or patent on it. Good luck with that boycot. | ||
Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:31 babylon wrote: There are gay communities out there who condone and even liberally use the word "fag" and "faggot" amongst themselves, just like how there are AA communities and speakers of AAE who use the word "nigger" as an endearing term. Sure but orb is neither homosexual nor black. Spoken by anyone else who don't fully feel the implications of a word it's just the wrong thing to say. No heterosexual white male would call someone faggot or nigger as an endearing term if it was not part of a joke. | ||
leethedster
United States7 Posts
1. I do not know personally, nor did I intensively examine and research this incident, I just read the first post (and a few pages of ensuing replies)--thus I have no personal judgment on the said player himself (however, his statements I were not the best as I explain in no.5)--or of the accusations. 2. It is not ohkay to disregard the words in question, that is the most important issue--far above 'lying'. 3. If E-Sports and Starcraft along wants to be taken seriously by outsiders as it expands, then professional players cannot be caught saying these things--nor can they be condoned. (Anyone, including myself, understands being heated in the moment--all professional sports atheletes do when the time comes) 4. It is better to be oversensitive than otherwise. 5. Said player would have had it better if he conducted himself in a more professional manner (as a professional). If he released a statement simply saying "I did not say [insert racial/derogatory slurs], however, even if I did I would like apologize to anyone that may have even slightly been offended by seeing these words [in relation to me]. I do not believe that these words have a place in our starcraft/e-sports community or anywhere for that matter." -For those that want to know my references of example, you can PM me for my original post. | ||
Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:37 Gheed wrote: Honestly, this. If someone raged on the ladder in BW or in WC3, nobody would give a fuck. SC2 really needs to be taken down a peg so we can shed this illusion of "professionalism" that the killjoys around here seem to be perpetuating. I don't know if you actually played BW but it was and still is one of the most professional and polite games out there. Out of my last 100 games I was probably BM'd once on Iccup. | ||
mathsucks
194 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:19 Silidons wrote: god i love when people play this game. just go to all of the extremes here because you know your argument is futile. also, THIS WAS ALSO ON THE INTERNET. maybe if beheading people happened everyday in the USA, then it would be pretty normal. but here is what is normal: calling someone on the internet a nigger. it happens every-single-day, probably every single minute. it's called not being a moron. i'm awaiting your eagre response. Just because it happens frequently does not mean it is acceptable. | ||
Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:35 Xann wrote: My ancestors were enslaved by the white man, and here we have the white man spreading racial hatred and the white man is excusing it, telling us to grow up. We need to take a stand against this hatred. Gonna boycott EG and their sponsors if they aren't going to address this properly. hahahahaha I'm loving this thread | ||
fortheGG
United Kingdom1002 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:36 Bashion wrote: EG removed their "a new lair resident" video that introduced Orb to the house and such. So he's getting kicked fast. | ||
Kuja
United States1759 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:35 Xann wrote: Whoah there buddy, thats alot of racism toward the white-man.My ancestors were enslaved by the white man, and here we have the white man spreading racial hatred and the white man is excusing it, telling us to grow up. We need to take a stand against this hatred. Gonna boycott EG and their sponsors if they aren't going to address this properly. | ||
AdrianHealey
Belgium480 Posts
Raging is not a crime. | ||
ReturnStroke
United States801 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:38 AdrianHealey wrote: This is pretty collectivist. 'The white men' who enslaved your ancestors are dead. The 'white men' who want to enslave you are less then 1%. (There are still racists, true.) The 'white men' helped, together with other black and hispanics and many more different kind of racial origins, to elect a black person to be the most powerful person in the world. You have no right to act like a victim just because your ancestors were. We need to make a stand against hatred. Using a racial slur, however, is not the same as hating other races. It is just that. A slur. As long as people will find a way to think in a collectivist way regarding these issues, these issues won't die. My feelings exactly. | ||
ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:37 Gheed wrote: Honestly, this. If someone raged on the ladder in BW or in WC3, nobody would give a fuck. SC2 really needs to be taken down a peg so we can shed this illusion of "professionalism" that the killjoys around here seem to be perpetuating. This 'someone' represents not just himself but EG. | ||
Ressonance
Brazil14 Posts
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On March 09 2012 08:40 mathsucks wrote: Just because it happens frequently does not mean it is acceptable. Is it acceptable for me to saying "you're a fucking asshole and are completely skilless" when I lose the game? I would bet you dollars to donuts that if Orb had said this, nobody would have cares, which makes this very much an issue of misguided self-righteousness rather than wanting some utopia of politeness. | ||
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