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On February 24 2012 11:11 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:07 guN-viCe wrote:On February 24 2012 10:51 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 24 2012 10:46 Gryffes wrote:On February 24 2012 10:41 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 24 2012 10:38 Gryffes wrote: If you wanted to beat Idra in a BoX wouldn't you cheese him knowing he tilts like a mofo ? yes, if it was a tournament. but not in a showmatch. Why not? $400 for winning, a decent chunk for anyone. my feeling is that showmatches are not about winning, they are about putting on a show for fans, and i, as a fan, do not enjoy watching "cheese" and "all-in" strategies. i did not appreciate alive's first two games, and i was incensed at idra's last two games. it was the worst showmatch (start to finish) that i have ever seen. people may disagree and say that the money makes it okay, but i respectfully disagree with that. I personally disagree with you that show-matches are not about winning. Meta-game is fun too. that is fine; that is your opinion. i have to say though, the most entertaining showmatch I have ever seen was when marineking off-raced as protoss and played a showmatch. that was entertainment, and it had very little to do with winning.
hmm I guess I kind of agree with this... if i want to see super serious games, I go for GSL, or MLG (or watch a replay)... if I want to see some kind of show, I like to see fun shit... like carriers or ravens and that stuff... imo I would rather watch anyone lose doing something wonky, than my favorite players 4-0 somebody by going 11-11
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On February 24 2012 09:40 docvoc wrote: losing respect for idra day by day smh. Even though it was a showmatch that doesn't mean all-ins are taboo. Double 6 pooling however would be like if alive had gone for a completely blind 5 rax marine proxy all in. The point is that once again IdrA is being idra and i can't believe people respect him for that. So aLive cheeses twice in a row it's fine but IdrA does it an holy shit the sky is falling?
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On February 24 2012 09:46 Tipany wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 09:25 pepsimaxibon wrote:On February 24 2012 09:18 Otolia wrote:On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote: So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra. No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ... someone dig up the quote from idra about starcraft not being pro-wrestling and how gamers should be playing to win above all else. SHOWmatch, bro. SHOWMATCH. okay. you enjoy two dudes on computers creating the most gnarly and epic space laser battles with their digital action figures, i'll watch two big names competing to win a game of starcraft.
showMATCH.
p.s passive aggressive "bro"s are a surefire sign of two things:
i you are uncomfortable making an argument without dropping in colloquial pseudo-endearment, a symptom of critical underdevelopment. ii you have a small dick.
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"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in."
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On February 24 2012 09:29 SonOfBoxer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 09:18 Otolia wrote:On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote: So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra. No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ... Korean mentality? Ever heard of BoxeR, who puts his fans before winning? NaDa, who's just as awesome? Flash? iloveoov? MMA? Those guys are too awesome because they want to show good matches WHILE winning, but for BoxeR who just wants to show good matches. Everybody knows IdrA is a whiner from the beginning, and since he couldn't simply ragequit, he decided to throw the games.
Flash plays some of the most boring games I've ever watched. The only reason they're interesting is because of how amazingly solid he is at pretty much everything. But I don't get giddy to see Flash play 99% of players, only pretty much TBLS games.
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he really hates protoss
he thinks terran mech is unbeatable
he actually thinks phoenix +2 range will be viable in pro league? what a joke...
I don't know what to take away from this, one moment he is confident the other he QQs
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On February 24 2012 11:22 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 09:29 SonOfBoxer wrote:On February 24 2012 09:18 Otolia wrote:On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote: So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra. No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ... Korean mentality? Ever heard of BoxeR, who puts his fans before winning? NaDa, who's just as awesome? Flash? iloveoov? MMA? Those guys are too awesome because they want to show good matches WHILE winning, but for BoxeR who just wants to show good matches. Everybody knows IdrA is a whiner from the beginning, and since he couldn't simply ragequit, he decided to throw the games. Flash plays some of the most boring games I've ever watched. The only reason they're interesting is because of how amazingly solid he is at pretty much everything. But I don't get giddy to see Flash play 99% of players, only pretty much TBLS games.
I think its more Koreaners murder foreigners out of Koreaner pride stereotype. Lets not forget that he made Tossgirl cry :p
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Respect him for his honesty. Don't respect him for being stubborn and saying 11/11 and 2 fact hellion are 'coin flip'. He failed in both scouting and defense micro. That's not a coin flip. That's his own failure in play.
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On February 24 2012 09:48 MichaelDonovan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 09:23 EMCL wrote:On February 24 2012 09:19 yoten wrote: Gotta respect Idra for his openness and honesty. Sure, but then you have to disrespect him in far more quantity for straight up not giving a fuck about viewers entertainment. Really disrespectful to the fans in my opinion for him to just not try "because it's just a showmatch so whatever". Awful attitude, he deserves the poor results he's gotten. It's not IdrA's job to entertain you. It is IdrA's job to win tournaments and if he had no chance of beating Alive then he might as well six pool.
If everyone had this mentality, what's the point of holding showmatches then?
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I definitely respect his honesty, and I like his straightforward answers.
I really hope he kicks ass and doesn't have any mental breakdowns (e.g. premature ggs) this year.
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On February 24 2012 09:24 dAPhREAk wrote: i agree with idra. alive's play was just not entertaining.
"The games weren’t gonna be entertaining if he just wanted to flip coins anyway, so I just 6 pooled to get it over, one way or the other."
funny that every coinflip goes against idra.
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On February 24 2012 11:45 DoNotDisturb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 09:48 MichaelDonovan wrote:On February 24 2012 09:23 EMCL wrote:On February 24 2012 09:19 yoten wrote: Gotta respect Idra for his openness and honesty. Sure, but then you have to disrespect him in far more quantity for straight up not giving a fuck about viewers entertainment. Really disrespectful to the fans in my opinion for him to just not try "because it's just a showmatch so whatever". Awful attitude, he deserves the poor results he's gotten. It's not IdrA's job to entertain you. It is IdrA's job to win tournaments and if he had no chance of beating Alive then he might as well six pool. If everyone had this mentality, what's the point of holding showmatches then?
so fan boys on both sides can brag/complain about the results of the match
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On February 24 2012 11:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I definitely respect his honesty, and I like his straightforward answers.
I really hope he kicks ass and doesn't have any mental breakdowns (e.g. premature ggs) this year. kinda late for that.
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why would idra 6pool ... so ridiculous
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Gotta love IdrA interviews.
Im glad he feels he's improved and isn't getting too discouraged by his recent losses. It'll be great if he lives up to his word and plays well in these upcoming tournaments. I wanna see IdrA owning again.
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On February 24 2012 11:56 pepsimaxibon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I definitely respect his honesty, and I like his straightforward answers.
I really hope he kicks ass and doesn't have any mental breakdowns (e.g. premature ggs) this year. kinda late for that.
He probably means in actual lan tournaments. Online show matches is one thing, but a live tournament he might not
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On February 24 2012 11:57 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:56 pepsimaxibon wrote:On February 24 2012 11:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I definitely respect his honesty, and I like his straightforward answers.
I really hope he kicks ass and doesn't have any mental breakdowns (e.g. premature ggs) this year. kinda late for that. He probably means in actual lan tournaments. Online show matches is one thing, but a live tournament he might not
Indeed that is what I meant.
I'll be at MLG Columbus again. Hahahaha.
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Never thought I'd think this, but I don't blame IdrA.
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I'm pretty sure it was cast from replays, so it is likely that they asked him to play only a few hours beforehand. After he agreed, they announced the showmatch.
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On February 24 2012 09:24 dAPhREAk wrote: i agree with idra. alive's play was just not entertaining.
"The games weren’t gonna be entertaining if he just wanted to flip coins anyway, so I just 6 pooled to get it over, one way or the other."
Very true. Doesn't justify the back-to-back 6pool, but it's a good point.
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