and these same politicians want to criticize obama for his policies?
Alabama City Allows Church as Alternative for Jail - Page 4
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
and these same politicians want to criticize obama for his policies? | ||
KSMB
United States100 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 28 2011 23:22 KSMB wrote: Well, they are recognizing what millions of children have known for centuries, church is a form of punishment. Very intelligent. "I better steal everything I can, if I get caught all that happens is I need to go to church". This is such an effective way to prevent crimes. | ||
bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On September 28 2011 23:16 stormtemplar wrote: Even as a christian, I applaud the spirit of the law, but not the content. Churches are not meant to be rehabilitation centers for people who commit crimes. They don't try to serve that purpose and thus will fail. If this one does it will probably lose a lot of members who don't feel their church is right for them anymore. Hold on a minute. The purpose of church is sinners getting forgiveness and learn to live their lives in a better way, is it not? But here you are saying that people are going to start being NIMBYs in church because they don't want to pray with criminals? That certainly doesn't sound very Christian to me. | ||
mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On September 28 2011 20:01 pred470r wrote: I don't think that this will catch-up in other places because if it does in a way you can just steal from people and have a million year "church" sentence. And with that being said I'd choose church over jail any day. Buglary and Robbery are classified as violent crimes in the US, and I'm pretty sure many other places as well too. | ||
HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Unless the convicts are not Christian, that's when it's definitely their fault, like everything else that is wrong with the world. You are welcome, and drop a coin in the collection box on your way out, you know how God is always broke. Peace | ||
Charger
United States2405 Posts
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On September 28 2011 23:38 HwangjaeTerran wrote: It's a good idea, who knows what will happen if the poor souls start thinking that whatever crime they did was their fault. No, it was Satan. Unless the convicts are not Christian, that's when it's definitely their fault, like everything else that is wrong with the world. You are welcome, and drop a coin in the collection box on your way out, you know how God is always broke. Peace One of the more ignorant posts I've seen in quite some time, it's always good to read through topics where religion is mentioned and get a few good laughs at the morons. | ||
mikyaJ
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On September 28 2011 23:47 ayaz2810 wrote: This is abysmal. You always hear about how atheists are jerks. But, for some reason, no one bothers to make a stink about things like this. Sure, atheists/humanists may push their opinions on people, but they don't actually FORCE you to do things. How blind can you possibly be to sit and think "this person did a bad thing. If I make him sit and listen to stories about the invisible sky wizard Jesus, he will stop committing crimes". The person who came up with this is a JUDGE. A (hopefully) well educated member of American society. This person is in a position of power. When I read stuff like this or about that psycho Bachmann, it really frustrates me. I can't believe how many people actually support this kind of insanity. If my family wouldn't rage about it, I would totally move to another country in a heartbeat. Reading comprehension appears to be a weakness of yours. The first paragraph says it's an optional alternative to jail or fines. | ||
bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On September 28 2011 23:47 ayaz2810 wrote: This is abysmal. You always hear about how atheists are jerks. But, for some reason, no one bothers to make a stink about things like this. Sure, atheists/humanists may push their opinions on people, but they don't actually FORCE you to do things. How blind can you possibly be to sit and think "this person did a bad thing. If I make him sit and listen to stories about the invisible sky wizard Jesus, he will stop committing crimes". The person who came up with this is a JUDGE. A (hopefully) well educated member of American society. This person is in a position of power. When I read stuff like this or about that psycho Bachmann, it really frustrates me. I can't believe how many people actually support this kind of insanity. If my family wouldn't rage about it, I would totally move to another country in a heartbeat. Have you voted in this thread yet? Just wondering. | ||
Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On September 28 2011 23:53 Charger wrote: Reading comprehension appears to be a weakness of yours. The first paragraph says it's an alternative to jail or fines. If you really think it's an "option", you are dumber than you seem to think I am. Which do you think your average street criminal will choose? Derp. | ||
Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
I have. See my above post. Seems to be a lot of stupid in this thread if they can't see that it's a blatant ploy to get people into church. A vast majority of people will not choose jail. Hell, probably all of them. | ||
Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On September 28 2011 23:56 ayaz2810 wrote: I have. See my above post. Seems to be a lot of stupid in this thread if they can't see that it's a blatant ploy to get people into church. A vast majority of people will not choose jail. Hell, probably none of them. | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Is it blurring the line between Church and State? Yeah. Not enough to make me uncomfortable though. Also I don't think you're forced to believe in Jesus, just attend. | ||
MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
On September 28 2011 20:05 KwarK wrote: As long as you can do it for every religion (atheism included) then sure, whatever works for them. If you can only do it for Christianity then it's giving Christians preferential penal treatment which is obviously unfair. What about atheists? I am offended by this policy, because it presumes religiosity is a way to atone for criminal behavior. | ||
Coraz
United States252 Posts
"It violates one basic tenet of the Constitution, namely that government can’t force participation in religious activity," Olivia Turner, executive director for the ACLU of Alabama told the paper." - giving an option is not forcing Thats funny, I've read the Constitution about 50 times and never come across the part mentioned here. I love "New Law" edit: I just got busted with a clean record for first time drug offense, I wish I could go to church instead of up to 30 days in jail for doing nothing. (In fact, I already believe in Jesus, so what does that tell you about our immoral war on drugs?) | ||
Charger
United States2405 Posts
On September 28 2011 23:55 ayaz2810 wrote: If you really think it's an "option", you are dumber than you seem to think I am. Which do you think your average street criminal will choose? Derp. So because most people will choose a certain option means it's not an option? | ||
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