EPTOnly foreseeable problem is openly gay men getting abused in the military, I can imagine a very bigoted attitude towards them.
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
Only foreseeable problem is openly gay men getting abused in the military, I can imagine a very bigoted attitude towards them. | ||
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KaluGOSU
United States171 Posts
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SarR
476 Posts
On September 22 2011 03:48 CrimsonLotus wrote: *Taliban Commander* Oh no!, the US Army is coming, they have tanks, missiles and stealth bombers, we can't beat them! *Random soldier* But sir, didn't you hear?, some of their soldiers are gay. *T.C.* HA!, losers, let's go kick their asses with our AK-47s and RPGs. Well you have a good point here. America goes mech instead of bio in its most intense conflicts so i guess this change wouldnt have much of an effect. | ||
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Cheeseypoofs
66 Posts
On September 22 2011 08:13 Subversion wrote: Glad this is going through since, I never really understood the point of it in the 1st place. Only foreseeable problem is openly gay men getting abused in the military, I can imagine a very bigoted attitude towards them. Honestly I see it the opposite. I think that people outside the military have more of a problem with gays than do those in the military. I don't think they give a shit who has their back as long as at the end of the day they are all alive and well. Or so I've heard from my navy and army buddies. | ||
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SarR
476 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:14 KwarK wrote: First of all, not all gay guys want to have sex with you. No if you're considered by most to be good looking. I get this problem all the time with fags, it is unbelievably annoying because you just want to let them down easy and they still keep fuckin trying. They change their tactics and approach in the hopes that they can convince you to "see the light" so to speak. Every time I meet one of these folks through a girl friend or something while hanging out or partying, the minute she leaves, they move in. Subtle at first as if to test the waters and because of my stupid polite nature I dont tell them to "fuck off". Instead, i say in a very polite manner, "I dont swing that way". Thats when it gets real interesting. They start offering to take care of me and just all types of shit just to get me to budge. Ive never once met a gay person who wasnt interested. Not once. I could never work alongside them in the military. User was warned for this post | ||
imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On September 22 2011 08:53 SarR wrote: No if you're considered by most to be good looking. I get this problem all the time with fags, it is unbelievably annoying because you just want to let them down easy and they still keep fuckin trying. They change their tactics and approach in the hopes that they can convince you to "see the light" so to speak. Every time I meet one of these folks through a girl friend or something while hanging out or partying, the minute she leaves, they move in. Subtle at first as if to test the waters and because of my stupid polite nature I dont tell them to "fuck off". Instead, i say in a very polite manner, "I dont swing that way". Thats when it gets real interesting. They start offering to take care of me and just all types of shit just to get me to budge. Ive never once met a gay person who wasnt interested. Not once. I could never work alongside them in the military. You do realise all the gay guys you have met that don't want to have sex with you, probably haven't made it that obvious that they were gay and you probably didn't think they were gay. It's only if they are actually flirting with you that you might realise it because the default is to assume people are straight and there aren't that many gay people who fit the stereotype of walking round saying "I'm feeling so gay tonight." | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On September 22 2011 08:53 SarR wrote: No if you're considered by most to be good looking. I get this problem all the time with fags, it is unbelievably annoying because you just want to let them down easy and they still keep fuckin trying. They change their tactics and approach in the hopes that they can convince you to "see the light" so to speak. Every time I meet one of these folks through a girl friend or something while hanging out or partying, the minute she leaves, they move in. Subtle at first as if to test the waters and because of my stupid polite nature I dont tell them to "fuck off". Instead, i say in a very polite manner, "I dont swing that way". Thats when it gets real interesting. They start offering to take care of me and just all types of shit just to get me to budge. Ive never once met a gay person who wasnt interested. Not once. I could never work alongside them in the military. Am I the only one who checked to see if this guy had a profile pic? I paused for a sec for fear I may be blinded by his beauty but built up the courage and found nothing. In short, there are VERY attractive people in the world, men and women. I am gay and have been hit on by LOTS of girls and treat them the same as guys I am not interested in. We all have to deal with persistent admirers at some point. Anyways I find this to be a moot point as the whole premise of your argument against gays in the military is that based off your personal experience gays cant control themselves. I imagine if this is ever the case for anybody it will be treated the same as heterosexual harassment. Also, I dont know how many times it has to be said. Gays have been in the military since its inception. First illegally and then silently. Yet apart from the bigoted actions of some homophobes it has never been more of a problem an any other personnel issue (at least according to military leadership). | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On September 22 2011 08:53 SarR wrote: No if you're considered by most to be good looking. I get this problem all the time with fags, it is unbelievably annoying because you just want to let them down easy and they still keep fuckin trying. They change their tactics and approach in the hopes that they can convince you to "see the light" so to speak. Every time I meet one of these folks through a girl friend or something while hanging out or partying, the minute she leaves, they move in. Subtle at first as if to test the waters and because of my stupid polite nature I dont tell them to "fuck off". Instead, i say in a very polite manner, "I dont swing that way". Thats when it gets real interesting. They start offering to take care of me and just all types of shit just to get me to budge. Ive never once met a gay person who wasnt interested. Not once. I could never work alongside them in the military. No, not all gay people want to have sex with you. Whether you're exaggerating or you've just happened to meet a particular crowd or you've met people that you didn't know were gay, I'm not sure. See, the thing is, I've never once met a gay guy who doesn't have the sense to back off when someone asserts their heterosexuality (and that includes myself). I'm sorry if you've had bad experiences, but that is simply not a reason to legitimate acts of discrimination. Not to mention that the conduct of drunk gay guys at parties is going to be vastly different from their conduct at their job. | ||
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SarR
476 Posts
On September 22 2011 09:06 imallinson wrote:You do realise all the gay guys you have met that don't want to have sex with you, probably haven't made it that obvious that they were gay and you probably didn't think they were gay. It's only if they are actually flirting with you that you might realise it because the default is to assume people are straight and there aren't that many gay people who fit the stereotype of walking round saying "I'm feeling so gay tonight." You have a point there. However in some cases ive actually seen these guys around. Some I knew were gay and some, not. Thankfully, they don’t just come up to you and spill their guts to you. What happens is eventually I’ll come around with someone, usually a woman who knows one of them and in a setting like a bar or a club they would greet each other and start talking and introductions are made. This is where it starts to go downhill(for me at least). I always come to find out how long they were watching and attracted to me before we spoke which seriously creeps me the fuck out. On September 22 2011 09:09 Velocirapture wrote:Am I the only one who checked to see if this guy had a profile pic? I paused for a sec for fear I may be blinded by his beauty but built up the courage and found nothing. There is no need to be a condescending cunt. First of all, I’d never ever say I was good looking, I said I am considered so. Most importantly, a picture of me wouldn’t mean a thing and in case your narrow mind doesn’t understand why, I’ll explain. What people find attractive is heavily influenced by their own culture and their environment. So what I am really saying is that where I am from, the people from my environment and culture consider me to be quite good-looking. I can’t help that. I can only tell you what I’ve experienced. The number one reason your kind(for lack of a better word) seems so dead set on trying to “turn” me was because of how good-looking they considered me to be. They have no qualms about saying how extremely attractive they find me and that being their primary driving force. That’s how I know. Please try to be less of a prick. I don’t make these posts to offend but rather to give a perspective. Ok ? It would be nice if you can give some constructive insight into this issue instead of being a dick. Given that you are one of them, I’m certain you can help me to understand their tenacious attitude and how best to deal with it. On September 22 2011 09:55 matjlav wrote: No, not all gay people want to have sex with you. Whether you're exaggerating or you've just happened to meet a particular crowd or you've met people that you didn't know were gay, I'm not sure. See, the thing is, I've never once met a gay guy who doesn't have the sense to back off when someone asserts their heterosexuality (and that includes myself). I'm sorry if you've had bad experiences, but that is simply not a reason to legitimate acts of discrimination. Not to mention that the conduct of drunk gay guys at parties is going to be vastly different from their conduct at their job. You’re lucky. Unless I get rough or borderline confrontational, they’d never stop trying. To them I’m like something they simply must have. I think my problem is that I’m way too friendly with people and they take that as a weakness they can exploit. It’s like you meet a hot but ditzy girl at a bar who you wanna fuck so bad. We are men so of course we are going to exploit the fact that this girl is not playing with all her marbles. I know I would. It’s the same with gays. They try to play your weaknesses. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Axero
United States307 Posts
On September 22 2011 10:14 SarR wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 22 2011 09:06 imallinson wrote:You do realise all the gay guys you have met that don't want to have sex with you, probably haven't made it that obvious that they were gay and you probably didn't think they were gay. It's only if they are actually flirting with you that you might realise it because the default is to assume people are straight and there aren't that many gay people who fit the stereotype of walking round saying "I'm feeling so gay tonight." You have a point there. However in some cases ive actually seen these guys around. Some I knew were gay and some, not. Thankfully, they don’t just come up to you and spill their guts to you. What happens is eventually I’ll come around with someone, usually a woman who knows one of them and in a setting like a bar or a club they would greet each other and start talking and introductions are made. This is where it starts to go downhill(for me at least). I always come to find out how long they were watching and attracted to me before we spoke which seriously creeps me the fuck out. On September 22 2011 09:09 Velocirapture wrote:Am I the only one who checked to see if this guy had a profile pic? I paused for a sec for fear I may be blinded by his beauty but built up the courage and found nothing. There is no need to be a condescending cunt. First of all, I’d never ever say I was good looking, I said I am considered so. Most importantly, a picture of me wouldn’t mean a thing and in case your narrow mind doesn’t understand why, I’ll explain. What people find attractive is heavily influenced by their own culture and their environment. So what I am really saying is that where I am from, the people from my environment and culture consider me to be quite good-looking. I can’t help that. I can only tell you what I’ve experienced. The number one reason your kind(for lack of a better word) seems so dead set on trying to “turn” me was because of how good-looking they considered me to be. They have no qualms about saying how extremely attractive they find me and that being their primary driving force. That’s how I know. Please try to be less of a prick. I don’t make these posts to offend but rather to give a perspective. Ok ? It would be nice if you can give some constructive insight into this issue instead of being a dick. Given that you are one of them, I’m certain you can help me to understand their tenacious attitude and how best to deal with it. On September 22 2011 09:55 matjlav wrote: No, not all gay people want to have sex with you. Whether you're exaggerating or you've just happened to meet a particular crowd or you've met people that you didn't know were gay, I'm not sure. See, the thing is, I've never once met a gay guy who doesn't have the sense to back off when someone asserts their heterosexuality (and that includes myself). I'm sorry if you've had bad experiences, but that is simply not a reason to legitimate acts of discrimination. Not to mention that the conduct of drunk gay guys at parties is going to be vastly different from their conduct at their job. You’re lucky. Unless I get rough or borderline confrontational, they’d never stop trying. To them I’m like something they simply must have. I think my problem is that I’m way too friendly with people and they take that as a weakness they can exploit. It’s like you meet a hot but ditzy girl at a bar who you wanna fuck so bad. We are men so of course we are going to exploit the fact that this girl is not playing with all her marbles. I know I would. It’s the same with gays. They try to play your weaknesses. I think you need to get over yourself. Just because a couple gay people hit on you, does not mean that all gays suddenly want to sleep with you. You must just like the attention you get, because for it bothering you so much, you sure don't have a problem going back to the same places you know they're going to be at. You really have a fucked up view of gay people if you think they are all out to try and trick straight guys into having sex with them. | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On September 22 2011 10:14 SarR wrote: You have a point there. However in some cases ive actually seen these guys around. Some I knew were gay and some, not. Thankfully, they don’t just come up to you and spill their guts to you. What happens is eventually I’ll come around with someone, usually a woman who knows one of them and in a setting like a bar or a club they would greet each other and start talking and introductions are made. This is where it starts to go downhill(for me at least). I always come to find out how long they were watching and attracted to me before we spoke which seriously creeps me the fuck out. Why is that creepy? Have you never looked at and been attracted to a woman before talking to her? It's something people do. On September 22 2011 10:14 SarR wrote: You’re lucky. Unless I get rough or borderline confrontational, they’d never stop trying. To them I’m like something they simply must have. I think my problem is that I’m way too friendly with people and they take that as a weakness they can exploit. It’s like you meet a hot but ditzy girl at a bar who you wanna fuck so bad. I'm actually gay. So, not really. That said, stupidity tends to be an immediate turn-off for me for guys. On September 22 2011 10:14 SarR wrote: We are men so of course we are going to exploit the fact that this girl is not playing with all her marbles. I know I would. It’s the same with gays. They try to play your weaknesses. Again, I'm sorry that you've had these bad experiences that lead you to make such sweeping generalizations. But the fact is that not all gay guys act this way, and even the gay guys that do act this way while they're drunk at parties will probably not act this way at their job in the military. The gay people that can act appropriately deserve to be allowed to serve just like everyone else - and "acting appropriately" does not mean that they shouldn't be allowed to tell anyone anything about their sexual orientation without being dishonorably discharged. And these people do indeed exist, despite your assertions to the contrary. | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On September 22 2011 10:31 matjlav wrote: Why is that creepy? Have you never looked at and been attracted to a woman before talking to her? It's something people do. I always thought this was just normal in such social situations. I've had a guy check me out while I was sat with my girlfriend. Neither of us cared because we had been had been talking about who was good looking at the same time and he we had decided he was one of the better looking guys there. I think you're just creeped out because it's a guy not a girl checking you out. | ||
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
On September 22 2011 08:53 SarR wrote: No if you're considered by most to be good looking. I get this problem all the time with fags, it is unbelievably annoying because you just want to let them down easy and they still keep fuckin trying. They change their tactics and approach in the hopes that they can convince you to "see the light" so to speak. Every time I meet one of these folks through a girl friend or something while hanging out or partying, the minute she leaves, they move in. Subtle at first as if to test the waters and because of my stupid polite nature I dont tell them to "fuck off". Instead, i say in a very polite manner, "I dont swing that way". Thats when it gets real interesting. They start offering to take care of me and just all types of shit just to get me to budge. Ive never once met a gay person who wasnt interested. Not once. I could never work alongside them in the military. User was warned for this post Yeah I totally got that from your post. Moron. ------------------------- This is awesome news, people need to stop getting so hung up on which hole other people insert their penis into. I could see why the rule was enacted, but kinda a pointless law. NO GAYS ALLOWED (unless you don't tell us when you join) | ||
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TheBatman
United States209 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:03 amazingxkcd wrote: Personally, I would not care whether or not there were gay soldiers, but if this leads towards legalization of same-sex marriages, I am completely opposed to that notion. User was warned for this post Why was this guy warned? User was warned for this post | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43405 Posts
Because it was off-topic and his opinion was a non sequitur, probably. Derailment ::shrugs:: | ||
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Stereotype
United States136 Posts
Ignorant statements and gut reaction from one of the republican presidential candidates, YAY Santorum. You can see how it's all about the sex in his words, demeanor and facial expressions. We're so screwed of someone like this gets to the white house. | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
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Duban
United States548 Posts
On September 23 2011 14:21 Stereotype wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwoh6g05hj4 Ignorant statements and gut reaction from one of the republican presidential candidates, YAY Santorum. You can see how it's all about the sex in his words, demeanor and facial expressions. We're so screwed of someone like this gets to the white house. I love the look of horror on his face when he realized what he just got asked. Pander to the extremists now, have it come back during the 2012 election. Approve the repeal of DADT and not make it to the 2012 election at all. He's as spineless as a jellyfish. Just make sure everyone tries to spread this video when 2012 comes around. | ||
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tomtom2234
United States46 Posts
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fant0m
964 Posts
On September 24 2011 12:09 Duban wrote: I love the look of horror on his face when he realized what he just got asked. Pander to the extremists now, have it come back during the 2012 election. Approve the repeal of DADT and not make it to the 2012 election at all. He's as spineless as a jellyfish. Just make sure everyone tries to spread this video when 2012 comes around. There's a reason for the first result when you google "Santorum."^^ He is a scumbag and extremely bigoted. (Not that much different from most of the Republican candidates of course, but still Santorum is one of the worst.) And agreed on the people that booed. The thought that people like that are shaping my country's future (through voting) is scary. On September 24 2011 14:22 tomtom2234 wrote: Finally! Very happy to see this really oppressive ban getting repealed. A little ashamed it took so long but at least its over with! Now to just wait for equal marriage rights =] <3 My thoughts exactly.  | ||
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