On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.
use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.
Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.
use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.
Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.
use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.
Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.
Why does it make sense for CS but nof SC?
because they can't handle being down in a series? idk, just my guess.
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.
use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.
Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.
Why does it make sense for CS but nof SC?
because they can't handle being down in a series? idk, just my guess.
The first time an underdog comes out from behind in the extended series to win a championship, you'll change your tune. Fucking exciting when that happens.
I've got an interesting question, and I tried to ask it as eloquently as I could via Twitter, but it has quite a few limitations.
Has MLG considered reducing the number of players seeded into Pool Play based on MLG Points for Starcraft 2 to the Top 12? You could then host an Online Qualifier for 4 spots in Pool Play, as well as leaving room for 4 Korean Invites, and then 4 Open Bracket players.
This would have quite a few benefits from what I can think of: 1. Players "fresher" on the Starcraft scene have a better chance of coming into Pool Play, rather than so many players that really haven't kept up with the game (I'm not going to name any players I can think of, that's rather rude.) 2. Gives MLG a chance to acquire a LARGE amount of high quality, exclusive content before EACH MLG event. A 64 player Online Qualifier for MLG, which is a very prestigious event would yield an insane amount of talent clashing in what is sure to be some incredible series. 3. Imagine the hype of a rematch between someone who grabbed a Pool Seed in the qualifiers coming up against the player they eliminated, after he fought his way back in the vicious Open Bracket.
Just look at the TeamSpeak TL Open series. An online tournament with barely any prize money, and the spectacular players we see turn up for the glory alone is astounding, imagine if the prizes were 4 precious MLG seeds for hitting the Semi-Finals.
As the above, except make it 8 people advancing out of the open bracket and seeding the better open bracket players based on (reworked) mlg points forward a round would be just about perfect
Love Virgil's idea. Definitely a great way to keep those pools fresh and, hopefully, more competitive. It's so disappointing and lackluster to see multiple people go 0-4, 0-5 in the pools.
On August 23 2011 16:34 VirgilSC2 wrote: I've got an interesting question, and I tried to ask it as eloquently as I could via Twitter, but it has quite a few limitations.
Has MLG considered reducing the number of players seeded into Pool Play based on MLG Points for Starcraft 2 to the Top 12? You could then host an Online Qualifier for 4 spots in Pool Play, as well as leaving room for 4 Korean Invites, and then 4 Open Bracket players.
This would have quite a few benefits from what I can think of: 1. Players "fresher" on the Starcraft scene have a better chance of coming into Pool Play, rather than so many players that really haven't kept up with the game (I'm not going to name any players I can think of, that's rather rude.) 2. Gives MLG a chance to acquire a LARGE amount of high quality, exclusive content before EACH MLG event. A 64 player Online Qualifier for MLG, which is a very prestigious event would yield an insane amount of talent clashing in what is sure to be some incredible series. 3. Imagine the hype of a rematch between someone who grabbed a Pool Seed in the qualifiers coming up against the player they eliminated, after he fought his way back in the vicious Open Bracket.
Just look at the TeamSpeak TL Open series. An online tournament with barely any prize money, and the spectacular players we see turn up for the glory alone is astounding, imagine if the prizes were 4 precious MLG seeds for hitting the Semi-Finals.
Just my two cents.
Well from the first episode with Sundance, he mentions how 2012 includes plans to change MLG from a thing happening a weekend every couple of weeks into a 40ish week long thing with seasons, so online qualifiers may very well proceed in that way.
On August 23 2011 16:34 VirgilSC2 wrote: I've got an interesting question, and I tried to ask it as eloquently as I could via Twitter, but it has quite a few limitations.
Has MLG considered reducing the number of players seeded into Pool Play based on MLG Points for Starcraft 2 to the Top 12? You could then host an Online Qualifier for 4 spots in Pool Play, as well as leaving room for 4 Korean Invites, and then 4 Open Bracket players.
This would have quite a few benefits from what I can think of: 1. Players "fresher" on the Starcraft scene have a better chance of coming into Pool Play, rather than so many players that really haven't kept up with the game (I'm not going to name any players I can think of, that's rather rude.) 2. Gives MLG a chance to acquire a LARGE amount of high quality, exclusive content before EACH MLG event. A 64 player Online Qualifier for MLG, which is a very prestigious event would yield an insane amount of talent clashing in what is sure to be some incredible series. 3. Imagine the hype of a rematch between someone who grabbed a Pool Seed in the qualifiers coming up against the player they eliminated, after he fought his way back in the vicious Open Bracket.
Just look at the TeamSpeak TL Open series. An online tournament with barely any prize money, and the spectacular players we see turn up for the glory alone is astounding, imagine if the prizes were 4 precious MLG seeds for hitting the Semi-Finals.
Just my two cents.
Well from the first episode with Sundance, he mentions how 2012 includes plans to change MLG from a thing happening a weekend every couple of weeks into a 40ish week long thing with seasons, so online qualifiers may very well proceed in that way.
an online thing.. hm.. idk about that. I I think it was in the forbes article where Sundanced said they would fly players to their studio to play there games.
On August 23 2011 16:34 VirgilSC2 wrote: I've got an interesting question, and I tried to ask it as eloquently as I could via Twitter, but it has quite a few limitations.
Has MLG considered reducing the number of players seeded into Pool Play based on MLG Points for Starcraft 2 to the Top 12? You could then host an Online Qualifier for 4 spots in Pool Play, as well as leaving room for 4 Korean Invites, and then 4 Open Bracket players.
This would have quite a few benefits from what I can think of: 1. Players "fresher" on the Starcraft scene have a better chance of coming into Pool Play, rather than so many players that really haven't kept up with the game (I'm not going to name any players I can think of, that's rather rude.) 2. Gives MLG a chance to acquire a LARGE amount of high quality, exclusive content before EACH MLG event. A 64 player Online Qualifier for MLG, which is a very prestigious event would yield an insane amount of talent clashing in what is sure to be some incredible series. 3. Imagine the hype of a rematch between someone who grabbed a Pool Seed in the qualifiers coming up against the player they eliminated, after he fought his way back in the vicious Open Bracket.
Just look at the TeamSpeak TL Open series. An online tournament with barely any prize money, and the spectacular players we see turn up for the glory alone is astounding, imagine if the prizes were 4 precious MLG seeds for hitting the Semi-Finals.
Just my two cents.
Well from the first episode with Sundance, he mentions how 2012 includes plans to change MLG from a thing happening a weekend every couple of weeks into a 40ish week long thing with seasons, so online qualifiers may very well proceed in that way.
I didn't see this, so thank you. I really hope that doesn't effect the amount of live events we see, as someone traveling to MLG Raleigh this weekend.
In regards to another post: Yes, It's really disappointing to see players that are clearly NOT able to compete with the current top players getting seeded into pool play, while the Open Bracket continues to slaughter better players.
With LESS players seeded based on the whole MLG season (which is quite long in SC2 evolution), only the better players remain and more players are able to play their best (especially Koreans and Europeans who can't make EVERY MLG) without having to go through the slaughter that is the MLG Open Bracket.
As it is, with 16 Players seeded by MLG History and 4 Korean invites, and then 4 Open bracket players, we're seeing trends of Koreans taking groups undefeated, and then 1 other player taking the group convincingly, and then the 3 other players play pretty sub-par, and then the Open Bracket player comes in and shows up the 3 sub-par players in each pool (granted there ARE pools that don't go this way).
I'm tired and rambling but I think MLG could even get away with TWO online qualifiers each rewarding Pool Seeds to both players in the finals. It gives everyone a bit of benefit, except perhaps players that don't quite belong in pool play, but find themselves there anyway. We get more content from MLG, MLG gets more viewers more frequently, and better players end up fighting it out in pools at the live events!
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.
use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.
Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.
Why does it make sense for CS but nof SC?
because they can't handle being down in a series? idk, just my guess.
The first time an underdog comes out from behind in the extended series to win a championship, you'll change your tune. Fucking exciting when that happens.
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.
use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.
Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.
Why does it make sense for CS but nof SC?
because they can't handle being down in a series? idk, just my guess.
The first time an underdog comes out from behind in the extended series to win a championship, you'll change your tune. Fucking exciting when that happens.
On August 23 2011 09:41 RaVeNSeNtrY wrote: I do have an MLG question:
How do you tell if you are registered for the event correctly? I signed up a while ago and got an email today telling me to complete the online registration today. I went to the site, but I had already entered in the information. Am I signed up correctly? How do I know?
Edit: I also sent an email asking the same question but got no reply.
The email went out to all SC2 Players for Raleigh. If you had already completed the Online Registration, you didn't have to go to Team Builder. The email was sent so everybody knew the check-in times, details of the event, etc. You should come to check-in on Friday between 10:30 AM and 5 PM to pick up your player wrist band.
On August 23 2011 23:57 SwampZero wrote: Will there be European Timezone Restreams?
We restream the event all night once we are done going live. Additionally, if you purchase a Gold Membership of MLG the entire event has DVR functionality.
On August 23 2011 23:46 MLG_Adam wrote: What I mean is, MC came back from 2-0 to win an extended series.
He was never the underdog though. Anyway it wasn't exciting because it had 1 decent game and 3 IdrA moments. It *was* hilarious however.
Just hope MLG does more to boot out the terrible players from group play, though I guess that's slooooooooooowly happening. Machine still there is just...
will MLG ever bring wow back? It was somewhat entertaining to watch, at least some of it. Since Blizzard had that b.net invitational for it I'm assuming they might've figured something out about spectating it with cata which was said to be the problem with it?