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Opening a Restaurant in Dobra Voda near Bar/Monten

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Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom729 Posts
December 05 2021 10:35 GMT
#1
Hi guys, hope you are well! πŸ™ƒ

I recently made my life long dream come true and bought this awesome property in Dobra Voda (Bar, Montenegro) with a 200 year old stone ruin from the Ottoman empire to turn it into a Restaurant & Bar hopefully by July 2022! There is 2400sm of land, so I will also be able to be creative and built wooden huts, a pool, sauna, jacuzzi and I will even have my very own wine cellar (which I am super excited about personally!)

If you live in the Bar area, do you think a new Restaurant in a unique environment and a fresh menu with items from all over the world would be something the locals would like to see and go to? Would love to hear your feedback, I will def bring in a lot of people from abroad haha!

Even though its not open yet, I have already created some social media pages to document the construction progress from January and share some photos with more explanations on my ideas and plans. Should you be interested to visit some day, feel free to follow those! Very curious to hear what you think

https://www.facebook.com/MontenegroTower
https://www.instagram.com/MontenegroTower

Hope to be able to welcome you guys there soon in person.

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Cheers,
Chris

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Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5277 Posts
December 05 2021 21:09 GMT
#2
Hi, congrats on an interesting endeavor!

I'm from Croatia. I've never been to Montenegro, but they should be similar to us mentality-wise. I believe you'll have to make a choice who you want to appeal to, the locals or the tourists, with my recommendation being the tourists.

Remember that the buying power in the Balkans is low compared to the UK and the first world countries. I've also travelled the world a lot for my work, and I had no idea how much people in other countries go out for breakfasts, brunches, lunches, dinners etc. People in Croatia go out to eat mostly on special occasions and dates. You rarely go out to eat just to socialize with friends. People just don't have the money to do it. And if people don't have the money for it, and your place is super cool, they might think it's pretentious etc etc.
My point is, if you wanna appeal to the locals, it would have to be something cheap they can afford.
People in the balkans love to spend hours and hours drinking coffee, or beer with friends. If you have a sweet spot for that, with prices that are not too crazy compared to other bars, the locals will love it.

And for the tourists, you can go 'crazy' and try to make all your ideas come to reality. "build it and they will come"
The tourists usually have money to spend and are just looking for the best possible experiences they can find.

Good luck man!

I've been thinking about visiting Montenegro in the summer for a few years now, if I come, I'll keep your place in mind and maybe I drop by :-)
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom729 Posts
December 06 2021 05:06 GMT
#3
Thanks man! My idea was to cater tourists and wealthy locals. even tbough montenegro generally has a very low average wage, there are still people earning more and living a more higher end life. Even in Montenegro On top of that the things my place will offer (Pool, sauna, jacuzzi, wine cellar, old ruin well restructed etc) will also have a more higher end appearance and the level of food quality will be high as well, so I dont think i will offer dishes for the price in a local shop around a corner in the city centre. So this will be primarily for richer locals and tourists, both happy to pay ~10€ for a meal instead of ~3-4€.

Also it will be a great venue for events like weddings, birthdays etc

Thanks for your feedback! Hope to see you in person in the future then so you can have a look foryourself
Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain16209 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-06 11:12:58
December 06 2021 11:03 GMT
#4
On December 06 2021 14:06 Tak3r wrote:
Thanks man! My idea was to cater tourists and wealthy locals. even tbough montenegro generally has a very low average wage, there are still people earning more and living a more higher end life. Even in Montenegro On top of that the things my place will offer (Pool, sauna, jacuzzi, wine cellar, old ruin well restructed etc) will also have a more higher end appearance and the level of food quality will be high as well, so I dont think i will offer dishes for the price in a local shop around a corner in the city centre. So this will be primarily for richer locals and tourists, both happy to pay ~10€ for a meal instead of ~3-4€.

Also it will be a great venue for events like weddings, birthdays etc

Thanks for your feedback! Hope to see you in person in the future then so you can have a look foryourself


First off, congratulations! Big step, big plans and sounds exciting!

Remember that tourists often want to try local things. It looks and sounds like you're aiming to be quite upscale, so I hope you have a chef who can do exciting things with local ingredients. Imho that's a niche that will always work. E.g. people can get a burger anywhere, but a burger with locally sourced lamb meat and goat cheese from the valley around the corner? That's more interesting! Of course, I don't know what type of tourists visit Bar. If it's youthful Russian (or German, or from anywhere) beach goers, you might be better off just serving pizza, but seems a waste of such a beautiful location to cater to the lowest possible denominator.

I've never been to Montenegro, but I've been to Croatia and Albania, and eaten really well in both countries. The local wine is also rather good, and Montenegrin Vranac is top quality!
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1955 Posts
December 06 2021 13:09 GMT
#5
Very cool place, and possibly a life-time project.

Out of curiosity, how much for that?
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
9160 Posts
December 06 2021 13:27 GMT
#6
I spent a vacation with my extended family many years ago in Montenegro, and it was one of my favorite experiences. Congratulations Hopefully I will visit some day with my own family.
πΆπ‘œπ‘›π‘‘π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘™ π‘¦π‘œπ‘’π‘Ÿ π‘–π‘›π‘›π‘’π‘Ÿ π‘›π‘Žπ‘‘π‘’π‘Ÿπ‘’. -- Π±ΡƒΠΌ Π±ΡƒΠΌ сучка!
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom729 Posts
December 07 2021 04:43 GMT
#7
Thanks guys! long term i plan to offer both local dishes as well as an international menu. But i will start small with a few items in the start before starting stocking up hardcore on ingredients without knowing how many people I can expect Maybe I should focus on the bar first which will be easier to manage in the start hehe
Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
TaiYaiHai
Profile Joined November 2021
1 Post
December 07 2021 06:40 GMT
#8
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany5093 Posts
December 07 2021 11:03 GMT
#9
Are there any recommendable hotels near there? I've been looking for something new next summer and this will definitely be on the list
Go Serral! GG EZ
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom729 Posts
December 08 2021 03:19 GMT
#10
There are lots of hotels in Bar. But I will have lodging as well, just in cosy wooden huts with a fireplace rather than cement blocks at the beach
Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
GazDiJuz
Profile Joined December 2021
3 Posts
December 08 2021 07:42 GMT
#11
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Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom729 Posts
December 08 2021 19:30 GMT
#12
Not trying to talk bad about them, I am just generally not a big fan of these beach hotels that all look the same, but its all personal taste. Some people like it, its just not mine!
Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom729 Posts
December 09 2021 18:42 GMT
#13
Got a video up as well with some more details for anyone interested:


Did my best to draw nicely haha. Havent done it in such a long time
Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2264 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-12 00:18:19
December 12 2021 00:15 GMT
#14
Do you have any past experience of running a restaurant?
You need to also think carefully how many people are you going to employ.
Restaurant and food business is very hard as I have seen.
Good luck to you and hope you have a good business. Get ready to put alot of hours on that new journey of yours, its going to be tough.

P.S: I dont know how covid affects Montenegro but in Greece because of covid restaurant activity has dropped ALOT. also people that dont want to get vaccinated cant even enter.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom729 Posts
December 12 2021 08:47 GMT
#15
Hey no expierence running one directly, but I grew up in one. But I will def have someone who knows what he is doing for that

Might also just start off with a bar that offers some food without a full Restaurant, not decided on that yet.

Covid in Montenegro is rather less problematic than in other countries like Greece, at least when I was there a month ago and currently from what my contacts tell me.
Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom729 Posts
January 18 2022 17:51 GMT
#16
I have arrived back in Montenegro last night and tomorrow we start with the work.

One more thing I will focus on is shared workspace for expads and digital nomads. They can work in the ruins during the day, enjoy the pool and some good drinks and then at 5pm I will close the working time and open the bar from 6pm. Hopefully some of them will stay around if they get a free first drink on the house

I think there are some great synergy options for sure and Montenegro as a country has plans to invest into digital nomads as will and works on putting up more initiatives to get more of them into the country starting next year. So pretty much when I should be done with my construction and ready to welcome them!

Exciting times for sure =)
Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom729 Posts
January 23 2022 18:26 GMT
#17
btw, if you are not familiar with the area and want to know more, check this video with some amazing sunsets from the two beaches near my place. They are both around 20-25 mins and I am pretty much in the middle of them =)

Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom729 Posts
February 08 2022 16:34 GMT
#18
Heyhey! There is a big update on the project with my focus on Coworking now and you can have a closer look at the space now after clearing up the property from all the bush and vegetation. Cant wait to get this started and welcome the first guests, fingers crossed no major issues will come up during the renovation/construction process.



Cheers,
Chris
Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
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