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I don't want BW to die because so many people on this site love it; it'd be a shame for them to lose what they love.
But I'd love to see TBLS and some other pros playing just a few games of SC2. Maybe a mini-tourney for the top 8 ranked KeSPA players. Not full time switches, not even necessarily prepared for much (or at all; would be amazing to see how quickly their RTS minds kick in and how they adapt).
Even if it was just a one-off, that'd be so awesome for both the BW and SC2 scenes. Seems like a reasonable compromise.
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On July 08 2011 20:49 mdb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 20:43 Kafkaesk wrote:On July 08 2011 20:04 Ryo wrote:On July 08 2011 20:00 papaz wrote:On July 08 2011 19:34 Elementsu wrote:On July 08 2011 19:24 imperator-xy wrote: if that was true i would actually jizz in my pants
i love bw but BISU PLAYING SC2 would destroy my brain You don`t love bw then... -.- whats wrong with wanting to see the great players of bw playing a game you play, follow, watch and love? i love seeing july and boxer play sc2. imagine seeing Flash and Jaedong in MLG vs foreign players like idra, thorzain, naniwa etc. how can that be a bad thing? it doesn't mean we don't love bw but its time to move on. i'd much rather see the bw players go to sc2 rather than them retiring and never see them play again. For every BW player who changes to SC2, another will quit gaming completely and never be seen in a professional match again. Is that a great thing? It's one thing for both scenes to exist side by side, it's another to hope that one industry dies to benefit the other. Sc2 being an official Kespa title would rais its popularity in a huge way. There will be a giant wave of new talents and gamers who will claim the top of pro gaming. As it is already happening in the west. I remember Idra answering an interview question, if he was thinking that there will be new top players coming in SC2 and he said "No way, the old pro gamers will be on top because of their experience, and no new player will have a chance." But here they are, HuK, Select, Naniwa, winning many tournaments. BW co-existing with SC2 is a fine thing, but it's an very old title and slow downs the progress of SC2. I`m sorry, but this is very stupid. SC2 becoming official kespa game wont make sc2 more popular. Its apparent that the koreans dont embrace sc2 as much as blizz would like to, and the reason is not in kespa, but in the game itself. Its just not that good. Its pathetic to say that bw is slowing down the progress of SC2, because its exactly the other way around.
How do you know that the koreans simply don't embrace it as much?
As much as you know of interviews or events like from Jinro's perspective from the homestory cup, there is simply not much attention for SC2 in korea. And it's not surprising, why should they? BW games are broadcasted on several TV channels, the BW players are huge stars, teenage girls are watching the games, not only because of the game itself, but more because of the "boygroup hype" that's made around the players. They are stars. This huge amount of attention smothers SC2's success in korea and Kespa as the official and biggest influence in esport in Korea could bring SC2 and it's players a LOT more attention as it has right now. I don't see anything stupid in that.
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Killing BW would be so stupid
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On July 08 2011 21:02 MiraKul wrote: I believe they wont just abandon BW just like that. It will put progamers out of job. =.= imagine the rage and riot by players and fans.
Mostly fans, really. :/
Players don't even have right to get angry under Kespa's rule.
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this can only be a good thing for the sc2 scene in Korea. With Kespa comes more BW stars, more exposure, and more sponsors. The Korean public will start learning and knowing more about sc2.
I am really sad for gomtv though. They are such a good company, respectful to foreigners, paying for many foreigners travel, relinquishing their sole BW rights to stay out of the Kespa/blizzard feud... I would hope this is not some planned knife-inthe-back
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On July 08 2011 19:49 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 19:47 konadora wrote: oh fuck please dont abandon BW seriously If KeSPA abandons BW, someone else will take it up. Not that they're going to. oh yes because actually there is someone else
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I guess the Korean SC2 scene isn't developing the way Blizz had hoped.
This whole incident between GOM, Kespa and Blizz feels like a bad, bad love triangle. Blizz wanted Kespa, but Kespa played hard to get and showed zero interest. Blizz looked elsewhere for satisfaction and found GOM. GOM and Blizz gets married but Blizzard's heart has/is with Kespa. GOM finds out Blizz has been sneaking behind its back with Kespa.... and the drama continues. Stay tuned for the next episode.
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i wonder how sc2con feels about this (if the rumors are true, which i highly doubt).
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On July 08 2011 21:10 LastDance wrote: I guess the Korean SC2 scene isn't developing the way Blizz had hoped.
This whole incident between GOM, Kespa and Blizz feels like a bad, bad love triangle. Blizz wanted Kespa, but Kespa played hard to get and showed zero interest. Blizz looked elsewhere for satisfaction and found GOM. GOM and Blizz gets married but Blizzard's heart has/is with Kespa. GOM finds out Blizz has been sneaking behind its back with Kespa.... and the drama continues. Stay tuned for the next episode.
...That sounded so homo, but it actually makes sense.
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Wrong thread T_T
But well it would be cool to see some of the bigger sc1 teams switch over or start to sponsor the current sc2 scenes, althought it feels most unlikely.
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KesPAs rules suck I dont want them to sc2 :/
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I don't know about them not abandoning BW, but as I type I feel a lot more certain they're not.
Mind you, I'm not all against restreams and free high quality
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I don't think they would invite Kespa to obtain input for HotS. That makes no sense, why not invite pro sc2 players or gomtv higher ups?
The meeting most likely had something to do with kespa adopting sc2. Or maybe something about BW that they want to address?
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On July 08 2011 21:08 imperator-xy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 19:49 Ribbon wrote:On July 08 2011 19:47 konadora wrote: oh fuck please dont abandon BW seriously If KeSPA abandons BW, someone else will take it up. Not that they're going to. oh yes because actually there is someone else There isn't anyone else, because KeSPA doesn't allow their playes play on any tournament non-KeSPA related.. If KeSPA abandon BW, be sure, someone else will take it(probably GOM). But KeSPA will not abandon BW so it makes no difference.
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Kind of happy, kind of sad.
Would prefer for Kespa to begin with small support showings of SC2 and maintain the flow of BW entertainment but perhaps this transition is what SC2 needs to fully take its place as a succession to BW in Korea. Obviously SC2 has already taken over for the majority of us Foreigners.
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On July 08 2011 21:11 JiPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 21:10 LastDance wrote: I guess the Korean SC2 scene isn't developing the way Blizz had hoped.
This whole incident between GOM, Kespa and Blizz feels like a bad, bad love triangle. Blizz wanted Kespa, but Kespa played hard to get and showed zero interest. Blizz looked elsewhere for satisfaction and found GOM. GOM and Blizz gets married but Blizzard's heart has/is with Kespa. GOM finds out Blizz has been sneaking behind its back with Kespa.... and the drama continues. Stay tuned for the next episode. ...That sounded so homo, but it actually makes sense.
how is it in any way homo? because you're a sexist and assumed all these corporations are men, thats why.
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On July 08 2011 21:03 Rodiel3 wrote: Killing BW would be so stupid
lol? BW is way to old and Viewer Unfriendly. Look at the 2frame animations... BW should just die and all the BW-Pros should try to make SC2 a better game for the viewers.
SC2 is the perfect RTS for eSports and it would be even better with BW gone.
This Blizzcon will have no WC3 matches. This could mean that with WC4, Blizzard could decide to stop hosting SC2 tournaments at Blizzcon, too.
Blizz stoped WC3 because the Scene is dead! All the good pros went to SC2 and the fanbase went to SC2, too! It's like the IEM thing with Quake, if the scene is dead and no one wants to see the games, they will stop to support it.
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On July 08 2011 14:39 Torte de Lini wrote: Interesting, the idea of more StarCraft II leagues in Korea is good!
But I don't want the ironclaw of Kespa T.T
Kespa and it's crazy ass system is what kept players like Iron and Zergbong from ever reaching their potential in BW.
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On July 08 2011 14:45 JiPrime wrote: Well, let's face it.
It's an old game running on 4:3 screen ratio with 640 x 480 resolution with 256 colors.
The visual appeal is not there anymore. ;_;
Unless Kespa is willing to use MavericK's SC2BW mod, I don't really think Kespa will stick to the old BW.
They've seen the success of foreign sc2 leagues and now they want to jump into the market as well.
this is laughable. the game isn't about its graphics. and if you actually think they'd replace bw with maverick's sc2bw, that's a joke. it isn't broodwar, it's not even cutting it as far as mechanics go. bw still has a lot of popularity, and still has a lot of time before it just phases out. to suggest that graphics is what people are looking for just shows that you have little clue as to what you're talking about -_-.
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On July 08 2011 21:28 Jedi Master wrote:lol? BW is way to old and Viewer Unfriendly. Look at the 2frame animations... BW should just die and all the BW-Pros should try to make SC2 a better game for the viewers. SC2 is the perfect RTS for eSports and it would be even better with BW gone.
ya d00d i only buy games 4 the graf1x!11!!
Kespa is not going to abandon BW, it still gets much more viewers than SC2 (~500k for an osl/msl final). That being said they may still adopt an sc2 league. One existing does not mean the death of the other!
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