Just thought I'd share this with you all because I think the commentators in the videos deserve credit/publicity for at least trying and putting on a show. They were doing commentary on a (non-live) Bo7 series between 2 of, StarCraft vanilla's, fastest community's top players.
If you have any tips/comments on their videos, then feel free to reply here and I'll relay your messages to them.
Stemming from some talk in the forums, MaFia.HasH and Pro]Marine- agreed to play a best of 7 series for 1v1:SC and to have the games commentated. They played the series, and as promised, here are the videos.
If you watch the videos directly from this thread I suggest you click the "HQ" button on the bottom right of the YouTube player and then click the "View Full Screen" button. The quality will be good enough to enjoy it full screen and not be distracted by the thread.
If you don't want to spoil the results before you watch the vids I suggest not reading posts in this thread. People may be discussing what happened in the games.
*note* even if one player won 4-0 or 4-1 or something we will always post the maximum amount of videos so that viewers can't tell who won or how many games were in the series before watching any games. Like say one player won 4-1 meaning there were 5 games. Games 6 and 7 would be fake videos.
[size=16]MaFia.HasH vs. Pro]Marine- Best of 7 series[/size]
Pretty interesting to watch how different 1v1 fastest is from the 3v3 weirdness that occurs on bnet.
Also, Spartan, can you set up a Bo7 between Attackzerg and a high level fastest player? He seems willing and I know he is at least C+ so it should be interesting.
It was cool in the sense that there was a little meta game going on and T had a nice strategy in game 1 actually. His control was pretty poor though. I'd probably say a solid C+ player would be an underdog in a game against him if he has no fastest experience, but give him a week and he'll be a stronger player.
I thought his control was pretty good actually, the beginning marine vs ling was easy play, but his tank push was fast. At the same time, did you check his macro? It is a lot harder to keep money under control than low-money.
Although one thing I would criticize is, despite all his good strats, I would think he could have got wraith a lot sooner no problem.
On June 11 2009 13:33 kNyTTyM wrote: Pretty interesting to watch how different 1v1 fastest is from the 3v3 weirdness that occurs on bnet.
Also, Spartan, can you set up a Bo7 between Attackzerg and a high level fastest player? He seems willing and I know he is at least C+ so it should be interesting.
On June 11 2009 13:51 Spartan wrote: That is where most of the competition is, sadly. Unfortunately there are a handful of players that can't handle the BW units still.
If it has to be vannila that is fine just find a player who isn't going to play the bo7 with me to play some practice games.
On June 11 2009 13:54 Pawsom wrote: It was cool in the sense that there was a little meta game going on and T had a nice strategy in game 1 actually. His control was pretty poor though. I'd probably say a solid C+ player would be an underdog in a game against him if he has no fastest experience, but give him a week and he'll be a stronger player.
I have alot alot of vanilla bgh and fastest experience dating back to 2000-2005.
- Why cant the terran lift barracks into zerg base and make firebbats? That would force the zerg to make a sunken colony or atleast waste larva on lings. - I see the players que up a lot of units in one production building. Can't them make another barrack of add a CC instead? - Since I kno medics cannot be used, why doesn the zerg go for a fast hydra attack before tanks get there or try to muta harass > guardians?
I would appreciate these questions to be answered. Thx!
On June 11 2009 14:18 WindCalibur wrote: several things i wanted to ask...
- Why cant the terran lift barracks into zerg base and make firebbats? That would force the zerg to make a sunken colony or atleast waste larva on lings. - I see the players que up a lot of units in one production building. Can't them make another barrack of add a CC instead? - Since I kno medics cannot be used, why doesn the zerg go for a fast hydra attack before tanks get there or try to muta harass > guardians?
I would appreciate these questions to be answered. Thx!
TBH the strongest units against terran in vannila are muta -> hydra.
With lan latency the strength of mutas will overwhelm any 3 rax/tank play. The problem is ZvP where you must use alot of sunken colonies against zealots but once again without corsairs the power of mutalisks is dramatically increased.
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