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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7518 Posts
June 13 2009 05:43 GMT
#81
On June 12 2009 05:18 Spartan wrote:
AttackZerg, what times are you online? What is your timezone? Can you hop on the USWest gateway? I think I can arrange for you to play my clan mate, who is one of BW fastest's top players. He is Jeremy[nK] aka gOlem[nK] and is currently in the #3 position on VGT:BW's 1v1 ladder:
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/standings1/2

I'm Spartan[nK] on the USWest gateway if you need to contact me.

Hey there I am sorry I have completely missed this thread and its bumps (lots of iccup)

I can't get chaos on my gaming computer because every internet explorer page ends up trying to download. So it can only go on iccup, or west without lan latency.

Anychance we can play on iccup and I just won't use a single broodwar unit?

I will be on from 10 pst to 2:30 pst threw monday, monday is an all-day and night day for me!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7518 Posts
June 13 2009 05:44 GMT
#82
On June 13 2009 10:10 kNyTTyM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2009 05:18 Spartan wrote:
AttackZerg, what times are you online? What is your timezone? Can you hop on the USWest gateway? I think I can arrange for you to play my clan mate, who is one of BW fastest's top players. He is Jeremy[nK] aka gOlem[nK] and is currently in the #3 position on VGT:BW's 1v1 ladder:
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/standings1/2

I'm Spartan[nK] on the USWest gateway if you need to contact me.


Don't back down attackzerg!



Since I pmed him asked for a match I only checked pms, and in the first one he told me he might not be able to set it up.

I had no clue he posted here, I'm going to play with insane in about 10 minutes to get ready and then I'm down for whatever
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
June 13 2009 05:44 GMT
#83
Download firefox and use that instead of internet explorer? :O Should be easy to download it since it tries to download everything
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
June 13 2009 05:45 GMT
#84
Does that Hydra guy still play? I watched some of his reps a while ago and he seemed like a complete monster compared to these guys... Mafia.Hash made some really bad decisions, i could probably PvT better than him on fmp...
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7518 Posts
June 13 2009 05:46 GMT
#85
Also I did not make this challenge because I feel superior to fmp players, I'm curious what happends when a solid b- gamer (b- 3 seasons in a row) plays against them!! That is all my challenege was out of interest not pride for those who are concerned!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7518 Posts
June 13 2009 05:47 GMT
#86
On June 13 2009 14:44 HnR)Insane wrote:
Download firefox and use that instead of internet explorer? :O Should be easy to download it since it tries to download everything

I can't download anything .... it literally goes to whatever url and tries to download, for insance I've tried to download teamliquid.net and msn.com 10 or 12 times .... =(
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 13 2009 05:49 GMT
#87
On June 13 2009 10:24 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
omg i see spartan here too -_- anyways one thing wrong with FMP is the gigantic choke which T cannot wall, so they are forced to mm vs toss.

base to base distances vary so much, and the middle//choke is buildable.

you don't have to expo, so you really only have one base to protect. so macro is easy. you f2 theres all your nexus. you f3 theres all your gates.

(note that expo can incredibly increase income; since most people make about 50-60 mineral gathers, and most stacks have 30-50, so the 10-20 or so excess workers can gather from the extra mineral stack. some zerg also like to gas expo for a total of 15 gas, if they are going guardians)

and since money income is faster but build time for buildings stay the same, toss will lay down have 2 gate instead of 1 gate when pylon is done. this, and because stack worker is accepted as legal play, ling rush isn't as affective, especially with gas that you use to stack surrounding you everywhere. t

here is no ramp which means no high-ground to low-ground transition with passage that only allows 2 or 3 zlots at a time; it is a gigantic choke that T can't wall, so zlots reign supreme. in team play mid build gayness and also cannoning a terran up is very viable because the middle is buildable, and the choke is so big T won't mech anyway.

i try to create better fastest maps, but the strange features make it so that any regular fastest player blindly dislikes it, even if they are terran. here is one i created


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-some features is that: all bases are chokable with 1 supply 1 rax, althrough 12 and 6 lings can run through wall... i'm debating one whether i should fix it so the supply can be made on top of the rax, but that would change the pathways of 12 and 6 to a point where ordinary fastest players wouldn't like it

-also yes those 3 neutral command centers for Z to infest, inspired by holy world, but most Z are too lazy to make use of it anyway, and would rather stick to standard play. theres 3 for each player so that hydras can only attack the cc's that are offset to you, except bottom left and bottom right can get ones on top of theirs since the cliff isn't as cliff. debating whether i should take the time to fix it, but it doesn't really matter much in a real game anyway.

-also one of the problems that most fastest have, including the one spartan uses for his league is that 1 and 11 are able to tank 3 and 9's top respectably, if they are terran, where almost all race makes the critical extra nex/command center/hatch//tech. i told spartan to fix it but stupidly he said "true it would be good but it just wouldn't be fastest"

also in most fastest 1 can tank 12's left side,which is where most people build their tech buildings (between the gas and cliff is 3 spaces, enough to fit a core//citadel//archives//ect, or in some cases, like my map, 4 spaces, so that people are able to make 2 rows of cannons to defend their minerals from storm drops and what not.

edit:i made it so that there are enough spaces(12 spaces) in between bases that they cannot be tanked from the sides in this map too, except 7 and 5 can tank 9 and 3's bottom a tad, though it doesn't bother most people since thats unpopular places to build tech.

comments? theories? suggestions for my maps? planning on making middle unbuildable, but most people would just bitch about it

Most FMP maps I've played are ling-tight wallable at all but 12 and 6 spots...some will require 3 depots, but still.
Hello
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-13 05:51:41
June 13 2009 05:51 GMT
#88
So how did you get ICCup launcher on it? :O
If you have a USB memory stick you could try carrying firefox over to it that way :D

I'm in op IRC atm.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-13 07:21:25
June 13 2009 07:12 GMT
#89
Anyone interested in playing / practicing FMP with us should come to op IRC on iccup

I'm on as Racquetball
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7518 Posts
June 13 2009 09:00 GMT
#90
ok so maybe I shouldn't play a top fmp player.

I'll glady do it. But no broodwar units and terrible FMP strategy comprehension and my refusal to play anything but zerg ...

I'll put it like this between konadora and insane I think I'm 0/11 ....
Bond(i2)
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada926 Posts
June 13 2009 18:40 GMT
#91
I'm down for playing fastest when ever, i can get on iccup or chaos on any server.

On June 13 2009 14:46 AttackZerg wrote:
Also I did not make this challenge because I feel superior to fmp players, I'm curious what happends when a solid b- gamer (b- 3 seasons in a row) plays against them!! That is all my challenege was out of interest not pride for those who are concerned!


well i was a b- player like a month ago and i get fuckin raped by pro fastest players lol. Its the only reason i got defensive about fastest.
roses are red violets are blue, Im schitzophrenic and so am i
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
June 13 2009 19:30 GMT
#92
On June 11 2009 14:15 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I flipped out when they said proxy fact after 3 rax is standard vs guardian rush.


Thinking about changing my quote...
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 13 2009 19:41 GMT
#93
On June 13 2009 18:00 AttackZerg wrote:
ok so maybe I shouldn't play a top fmp player.

I'll glady do it. But no broodwar units and terrible FMP strategy comprehension and my refusal to play anything but zerg ...

I'll put it like this between konadora and insane I think I'm 0/11 ....

lol, what a funny twist of events.

On June 13 2009 14:46 AttackZerg wrote:
Also I did not make this challenge because I feel superior to fmp players, I'm curious what happends when a solid b- gamer (b- 3 seasons in a row) plays against them!! That is all my challenege was out of interest not pride for those who are concerned!

leveIs
Profile Joined May 2009
United States44 Posts
June 13 2009 20:06 GMT
#94
i actually play fastest a lot, but only team play. 1v1 is just retarded and the fact that people think it is a valuable comparison of skill are equally retarded. toss is just completely unfair starting with cannons and zealots in the early game, to reavers and storm on the mineral patch. but 2v2 and 3v3 are a lot of fun.
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
June 13 2009 20:11 GMT
#95
On June 14 2009 04:41 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2009 18:00 AttackZerg wrote:
ok so maybe I shouldn't play a top fmp player.

I'll glady do it. But no broodwar units and terrible FMP strategy comprehension and my refusal to play anything but zerg ...

I'll put it like this between konadora and insane I think I'm 0/11 ....

lol, what a funny twist of events.

Show nested quote +
On June 13 2009 14:46 AttackZerg wrote:
Also I did not make this challenge because I feel superior to fmp players, I'm curious what happends when a solid b- gamer (b- 3 seasons in a row) plays against them!! That is all my challenege was out of interest not pride for those who are concerned!


I'm pretty sure he meant he does not feel he is superior, you're reading the emphasis wrong.
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
June 13 2009 21:49 GMT
#96
On June 14 2009 05:06 leveIs wrote:
i actually play fastest a lot, but only team play. 1v1 is just retarded and the fact that people think it is a valuable comparison of skill are equally retarded. toss is just completely unfair starting with cannons and zealots in the early game, to reavers and storm on the mineral patch. but 2v2 and 3v3 are a lot of fun.


Yeah, toss is most definitely imbalanced on that map, especially vs terran.
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