• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:27
CEST 13:27
KST 20:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play0Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)53ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo26Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) HackErIsTop take on Patch 5.0.16 Possible bug in the new patch? ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BSL Season 22 BW General Discussion STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List
Tourneys
[BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Games for Kids Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7448 users

11 y.o college graduate says gaming is a waste of time

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 02:29:14
June 08 2009 15:55 GMT
#1
+ Show Spoiler [MSNBC article] +
11-year-old college grad: I’m no genius
Devotee of martial arts, astrophysics says he’s ‘regular kid who works hard’

Moshe Kai Cavalin, 11, graduated with honors Friday from East Los Angeles College, but he'd rather you not call him a genius.

"I consider myself a regular kid who works hard and does his best," says this only child of a Taiwanese mother and an Israeli father.

When Moshe started college at the age of 8, he may have been the youngest person in class, but he ended up tutoring some of his 19- and 20-year-old classmates in math and science.

Astrophysics is his passion. Albert Einstein and Bruce Lee are among his idols.

Yet like a twist out of a Hollywood action flick, Moshe combines his exceptional smarts with fearsome martial arts abilities: The preteen has won numerous national martial arts championships.

Up next for the tireless boy wonder: In the next six months to a year, he plans to devote himself to martial arts, write a book for kids on how to succeed in school, and take up scuba diving.

Not on the agenda: playing video games.

"I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way," says Moshe, who wants to use his knowledge to change the world.


tl;dr:
'I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way."

"I consider myself a regular kid who works hard and does his best."


What do you think of this kid? Seriously, spending his childhood not playing at all is just =.="

Some comments from 2ch (thanks to this site):
-What does an 11 year old know?
-Life itself is a waste of time
-Feel sorry for the poor kid who doesn't know how to relax/recreate at that young age.
-Apologize to the pro gamers
-Its up to people what they do with their time. Whether its a waste depends on how you look at it.
-Its humanities right to waste time
-Agree - console games are a waste of time but Chess is fine.
-Just as the kid says - games are a waste of time.
-Most humans lives are a waste of time - apart from some geniuses.
-What is that virgin talking about?
-Healthcare is also a waste of time
-Games are good for relieving stress
-He most certainly looks down on the folks around him
-Tell him about eroge
-Life is CLANNAD
-I bet he was a FF11 heavy user
-He looks like the type to play with Wikipedia when hes got free time.


Pro troll, next genius or another messed up kid?

Sources: Site 1, Site 2 (in Japanese), MSNBC
POGGERS
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
June 08 2009 15:58 GMT
#2
Becky-chan?
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
June 08 2009 15:58 GMT
#3
fun things aren't a waste of time.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 15:59:47
June 08 2009 15:59 GMT
#4
I don't think everyone's goal is 'helping humanity', nor is it possible to devote all your time to it. Obviously the kid is a genius but he's still only 11 so he's going to make naive statements, who cares.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
June 08 2009 15:59 GMT
#5
First: only 11 Second: mind controlled by parents
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
June 08 2009 16:01 GMT
#6
I guess giving a little bit of joy to millions of people worldwide isn't helping humanity at all.
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
June 08 2009 16:01 GMT
#7
Lol, if you follow this logic then you will see that very few things truly help humanity and thus almost everything we do is a waste of time. Well, I guess if you count procreating (aka chasing tail) as helping humanity then I suppose some people don't waste that much time...
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
June 08 2009 16:03 GMT
#8
On June 09 2009 00:59 dubRa wrote:
First: only 11 Second: mind controlled by parents
Well I'm not going to hold his age against him, except that I have to agree that at that age he probably is just regurgitating everything his parents are telling him.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 16:03:52
June 08 2009 16:03 GMT
#9
Martial arts and scuba diving are helping humanity how?
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
demonix
Profile Joined June 2009
United States35 Posts
June 08 2009 16:06 GMT
#10
On June 09 2009 01:03 Rotodyne wrote:
Martial arts and scuba diving are helping humanity how?


+1.
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
June 08 2009 16:06 GMT
#11
*can't grow pubes* *has an opinion about something*
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
June 08 2009 16:08 GMT
#12
Games are entertainment.

Making games is furthering entertainment. (Arguably bettering humanity, but not most effectively.)

Entertainment is a 'waste of time' in comparison to 'bettering humanity'.

I'd say the kid is partially right, but most of us don't consider everything that isn't most effectively bettering humanity to the highest degree possible a waste of time. For example, it's like complaining that efforts stopping poachers is a waste of time because humans are still being killed.

I hate to agree (partially) with the kid because making games is what I do, but he is prettymuch right in theory.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 08 2009 16:11 GMT
#13
--- Nuked ---
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
June 08 2009 16:12 GMT
#14
My mom showed me this. She specifically pointed out
"I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way," says Moshe, who wants to use his knowledge to change the world.


The first thing I thought about was how he just insulted every single progamer in the world, then I thought about how this line of thinking could be applied to anything.
Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
June 08 2009 16:14 GMT
#15
agree, mind controlled by parents. typical dark archon family.
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
June 08 2009 16:18 GMT
#16
Posting on TL isn't helping humanity, plz all of you stop!
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 08 2009 16:18 GMT
#17
He'll get a humongous burnout and depression at some point. Bet he will regret not having been a kid at that point.
觀過斯知仁矣.
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
June 08 2009 16:23 GMT
#18
gaming sucks ass, i got bored at 17, only kept playing cause i had time to burn

i have real interests and ambitions

oh, and now i get stoned when i burn time instead. much more fun.
hello there
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 16:27:44
June 08 2009 16:24 GMT
#19
On June 09 2009 01:18 foeffa wrote:
He'll get a humongous burnout and depression at some point. Bet he will regret not having been a kid at that point.

Just like all of these wonder kids, I haven't heard of anyone who got a college degree uber fast actually contributing anything special after that. Most stops at some point and questions why they should have to work their ass of and when in hell they will be able to relax. The deal is that they are driven by their parents, as soon as they get disconnected from them they get like "Oh, so this is how you party!!!!".

I am sure that the average person could graduate college by at least the age of 15 if the parents just raised them correctly, but the deal is that there are other things in life than just getting a college degree...
bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
June 08 2009 16:26 GMT
#20
On June 09 2009 01:18 foeffa wrote:
He'll get a humongous burnout and depression at some point. Bet he will regret not having been a kid at that point.


+1

Seen it from tons of child prodigies before. Luckily this one hasn't committed suicide; my neighbor who graduated college at 14 did. Even when the kid's minds are made for that much school that early, rarely is society ready to accept them. Damn shame.
1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 98
CranKy Ducklings42
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 314
Lowko253
StateSC2 250
SHIN 70
Ryung 56
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 13939
Horang2 1345
Jaedong 562
Hyuk 479
Mini 286
Light 197
Zeus 172
actioN 149
EffOrt 130
Soma 129
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 119
Pusan 117
Last 113
Killer 99
Rush 96
ggaemo 95
Leta 75
Hyun 57
Snow 56
Liquid`Ret 51
ToSsGirL 41
Free 36
Aegong 26
scan(afreeca) 25
JulyZerg 21
Hm[arnc] 21
[sc1f]eonzerg 20
JYJ 19
Sharp 18
sorry 15
yabsab 11
Sacsri 7
Dota 2
Dendi475
XcaliburYe51
League of Legends
Reynor59
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss977
byalli404
Other Games
singsing1544
B2W.Neo499
crisheroes277
Happy110
Mew2King105
QueenE39
Sick21
MindelVK1
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream5523
Other Games
gamesdonequick519
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 55
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH239
• StrangeGG 35
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2154
Upcoming Events
INu's Battles
3m
ByuN vs SHIN
IntoTheiNu 83
OSC
5h 33m
MaxPax vs Percival
Solar vs ShoWTimE
Lambo vs Arrogfire
YoungYakov vs GgMaChine
Krystianer vs ArT
NightMare vs Iba
Douyu Cup 2020
17h 33m
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
OSC
1d 4h
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 17h
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
RSL Revival
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.