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11 y.o college graduate says gaming is a waste of time

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 02:29:14
June 08 2009 15:55 GMT
#1
+ Show Spoiler [MSNBC article] +
11-year-old college grad: I’m no genius
Devotee of martial arts, astrophysics says he’s ‘regular kid who works hard’

Moshe Kai Cavalin, 11, graduated with honors Friday from East Los Angeles College, but he'd rather you not call him a genius.

"I consider myself a regular kid who works hard and does his best," says this only child of a Taiwanese mother and an Israeli father.

When Moshe started college at the age of 8, he may have been the youngest person in class, but he ended up tutoring some of his 19- and 20-year-old classmates in math and science.

Astrophysics is his passion. Albert Einstein and Bruce Lee are among his idols.

Yet like a twist out of a Hollywood action flick, Moshe combines his exceptional smarts with fearsome martial arts abilities: The preteen has won numerous national martial arts championships.

Up next for the tireless boy wonder: In the next six months to a year, he plans to devote himself to martial arts, write a book for kids on how to succeed in school, and take up scuba diving.

Not on the agenda: playing video games.

"I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way," says Moshe, who wants to use his knowledge to change the world.


tl;dr:
'I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way."

"I consider myself a regular kid who works hard and does his best."


What do you think of this kid? Seriously, spending his childhood not playing at all is just =.="

Some comments from 2ch (thanks to this site):
-What does an 11 year old know?
-Life itself is a waste of time
-Feel sorry for the poor kid who doesn't know how to relax/recreate at that young age.
-Apologize to the pro gamers
-Its up to people what they do with their time. Whether its a waste depends on how you look at it.
-Its humanities right to waste time
-Agree - console games are a waste of time but Chess is fine.
-Just as the kid says - games are a waste of time.
-Most humans lives are a waste of time - apart from some geniuses.
-What is that virgin talking about?
-Healthcare is also a waste of time
-Games are good for relieving stress
-He most certainly looks down on the folks around him
-Tell him about eroge
-Life is CLANNAD
-I bet he was a FF11 heavy user
-He looks like the type to play with Wikipedia when hes got free time.


Pro troll, next genius or another messed up kid?

Sources: Site 1, Site 2 (in Japanese), MSNBC
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
June 08 2009 15:58 GMT
#2
Becky-chan?
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
June 08 2009 15:58 GMT
#3
fun things aren't a waste of time.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 15:59:47
June 08 2009 15:59 GMT
#4
I don't think everyone's goal is 'helping humanity', nor is it possible to devote all your time to it. Obviously the kid is a genius but he's still only 11 so he's going to make naive statements, who cares.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
June 08 2009 15:59 GMT
#5
First: only 11 Second: mind controlled by parents
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
June 08 2009 16:01 GMT
#6
I guess giving a little bit of joy to millions of people worldwide isn't helping humanity at all.
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
June 08 2009 16:01 GMT
#7
Lol, if you follow this logic then you will see that very few things truly help humanity and thus almost everything we do is a waste of time. Well, I guess if you count procreating (aka chasing tail) as helping humanity then I suppose some people don't waste that much time...
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
June 08 2009 16:03 GMT
#8
On June 09 2009 00:59 dubRa wrote:
First: only 11 Second: mind controlled by parents
Well I'm not going to hold his age against him, except that I have to agree that at that age he probably is just regurgitating everything his parents are telling him.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 16:03:52
June 08 2009 16:03 GMT
#9
Martial arts and scuba diving are helping humanity how?
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
demonix
Profile Joined June 2009
United States35 Posts
June 08 2009 16:06 GMT
#10
On June 09 2009 01:03 Rotodyne wrote:
Martial arts and scuba diving are helping humanity how?


+1.
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
June 08 2009 16:06 GMT
#11
*can't grow pubes* *has an opinion about something*
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
June 08 2009 16:08 GMT
#12
Games are entertainment.

Making games is furthering entertainment. (Arguably bettering humanity, but not most effectively.)

Entertainment is a 'waste of time' in comparison to 'bettering humanity'.

I'd say the kid is partially right, but most of us don't consider everything that isn't most effectively bettering humanity to the highest degree possible a waste of time. For example, it's like complaining that efforts stopping poachers is a waste of time because humans are still being killed.

I hate to agree (partially) with the kid because making games is what I do, but he is prettymuch right in theory.
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PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 08 2009 16:11 GMT
#13
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doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
June 08 2009 16:12 GMT
#14
My mom showed me this. She specifically pointed out
"I feel it's a waste of time playing video games because it's not helping humanity in any way," says Moshe, who wants to use his knowledge to change the world.


The first thing I thought about was how he just insulted every single progamer in the world, then I thought about how this line of thinking could be applied to anything.
Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
June 08 2009 16:14 GMT
#15
agree, mind controlled by parents. typical dark archon family.
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
June 08 2009 16:18 GMT
#16
Posting on TL isn't helping humanity, plz all of you stop!
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 08 2009 16:18 GMT
#17
He'll get a humongous burnout and depression at some point. Bet he will regret not having been a kid at that point.
觀過斯知仁矣.
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
June 08 2009 16:23 GMT
#18
gaming sucks ass, i got bored at 17, only kept playing cause i had time to burn

i have real interests and ambitions

oh, and now i get stoned when i burn time instead. much more fun.
hello there
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 16:27:44
June 08 2009 16:24 GMT
#19
On June 09 2009 01:18 foeffa wrote:
He'll get a humongous burnout and depression at some point. Bet he will regret not having been a kid at that point.

Just like all of these wonder kids, I haven't heard of anyone who got a college degree uber fast actually contributing anything special after that. Most stops at some point and questions why they should have to work their ass of and when in hell they will be able to relax. The deal is that they are driven by their parents, as soon as they get disconnected from them they get like "Oh, so this is how you party!!!!".

I am sure that the average person could graduate college by at least the age of 15 if the parents just raised them correctly, but the deal is that there are other things in life than just getting a college degree...
bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
June 08 2009 16:26 GMT
#20
On June 09 2009 01:18 foeffa wrote:
He'll get a humongous burnout and depression at some point. Bet he will regret not having been a kid at that point.


+1

Seen it from tons of child prodigies before. Luckily this one hasn't committed suicide; my neighbor who graduated college at 14 did. Even when the kid's minds are made for that much school that early, rarely is society ready to accept them. Damn shame.
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