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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 19:20:21
June 08 2009 19:18 GMT
#81
On June 09 2009 01:06 demonix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 01:03 Rotodyne wrote:
Martial arts and scuba diving are helping humanity how?


+1.

Enough said

Yes video games are a "waste of time" but so is every single other recreational activity.

Not much to discuss here really.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
June 08 2009 19:19 GMT
#82
On June 09 2009 01:03 Rotodyne wrote:
Martial arts and scuba diving are helping humanity how?


QFT
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
June 08 2009 19:32 GMT
#83
no one gives a shit what eleven year olds think
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 08 2009 19:35 GMT
#84
10 to 1 the kid has little to no personality.
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armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
June 08 2009 19:35 GMT
#85
Graduating from college suddenly makes an 11-year-old's opinion on the purpose of life and the ultimate worth of one's actions meaningful now?
StalkerSC
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada378 Posts
June 08 2009 19:37 GMT
#86
Hes messed.
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
June 08 2009 19:46 GMT
#87
On June 09 2009 04:35 armed_ wrote:
Graduating from college suddenly makes an 11-year-old's opinion on the purpose of life and the ultimate worth of one's actions meaningful now?

Yeah, because people care what geniuses think since they're smarter than us.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
June 08 2009 19:56 GMT
#88
Why are u guys getting so aroused by a comment of an 11 year-old? -.-||

i'm just gonna quote SDM on this 1
"If you're gonna talk shit, you'd better make sure you're the best!"

only things is, i doubt he has any idea what he's talking about anyways,for the better of humanity? Waste of humanity? what does an 11 year old know about humanity lol...

This kid is just another theme park attraction, unless he really did succeed in the future, now we should all just take the ride then forget about it...
Juanpe
Profile Joined May 2008
Uruguay283 Posts
June 08 2009 20:01 GMT
#89
Neeeeeeeeerd.
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QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 20:06:17
June 08 2009 20:03 GMT
#90
it's a waste of time when you are doing it at an age where you are supposed to be developing your minds and shaping who you will be later in life when you DON'T (not saying all adults don't go to school but you know, settling in with a family and whatnot) have as much of an opportunity to recieve an education and learn your morals and whatnot. That alone doesn't make it a waste of time though - it's a "waste of time" when, like many can relate here, wake up and go to sleep late playing the god damn game (that kinda took away my childhood, not that i regret it YET since im still in college but I can see that I could've been reading books or doing something productive as im sure, once again, many feel) to the point where we have to set a quota like "i'll play 5 games today, then i'll stop no matter what" then you come to find that 3 out of 5 games that you've played, you were either cheesed or you end up using an excuse to yourself and be prepared if anyone in your family asked why you passed the limit of 5 games by saying "i needed to warm up first" then it just becomes disaster in the household. that's my experience.. at least.. and now i kinda regret playing so much, but then again.. i don't regret it as if i have, lets say, smoked weed the whole time.. people dont understand the complexity, entertainment and unbelievable talent it takes to be good at starcraft.. that's what hurts the most - when people say it's JUST another game right to your face when you probably (adding up all the time we played starcraft in our life) invested more than a whole year, or more for some, playing the genius game made by blizzard. i don't regret it as much, but i know it was my choice and sometimes i wish my parents could've kicked me harder to realize that it DID waste a lot of my childhood/teenage years, but im a normal kid now and it hasn't turned me into a freak either.

another cool thing about starcraft though is how it can relate to so many things in life. my dad gets scared about me using the GPS mounted to my window in my car.. and says "keep your eye on the road! it's hard to look back and fourth on the road and the GPS" and i just laugh inside my head because it reminds me of how i have to check my mineral count during games hahahaha ^_^, but i wouldn't dare mention that to him because he'd just probably look at me like im crazy. damn vietnamese dads lol
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
June 08 2009 20:03 GMT
#91
On June 09 2009 01:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
lol i bet he never got laid in college

It was probably illegal!
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
June 08 2009 20:04 GMT
#92
the kid sounds like an idiot to me. It is clear he is good at retaining what he hears/reads, but It appears he is not very good at thinking.
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
June 08 2009 20:05 GMT
#93
On June 09 2009 05:04 Mastermind wrote:
the kid sounds like an idiot to me. It is clear he is good at retaining what he hears/reads, but It appears he is not very good at thinking.


Jealousy o_O
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QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
June 08 2009 20:07 GMT
#94
On June 09 2009 05:05 Leath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 05:04 Mastermind wrote:
the kid sounds like an idiot to me. It is clear he is good at retaining what he hears/reads, but It appears he is not very good at thinking.


Jealousy o_O


agreed. we value what he really says because if you can find another 11 year old that wise and mature, THEN i'll retract my statement. i wish i had a brother like that =[
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 08 2009 20:09 GMT
#95
On June 09 2009 05:07 QuoC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 05:05 Leath wrote:
On June 09 2009 05:04 Mastermind wrote:
the kid sounds like an idiot to me. It is clear he is good at retaining what he hears/reads, but It appears he is not very good at thinking.


Jealousy o_O


agreed. we value what he really says because if you can find another 11 year old that wise and mature, THEN i'll retract my statement. i wish i had a brother like that =[

He's intelligent, but it doesn't seem like he's wise or mature. I don't expect any 11 year old to be wise and mature though.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
June 08 2009 20:19 GMT
#96
I hope he benefits humanity, I really do. I don't believe his blanket qualifications on the use of time are justifiable, but his goals are certainly admirable. Unfortunately, expertise in Astrophysics and Martial Arts might not do well in attacking some of the problems facing humanity today.

Video Games are a waste of time if your goals in life do not involve having fun.

The ultimate transience of humanity makes questioning the legitimacy of individual humans' goals an illegitimate pursuit.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 08 2009 20:23 GMT
#97
On June 09 2009 03:47 ssenwen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 03:37 Nevuk wrote:
This kid doesn't yet understand that everything is actually a waste of time. I'm about to start a rambling rooted in literary theory, one of my very own personal waste, but the one that I study. Value is just an opinion, granted, it is frequently shared by many, but the fact remains that nothing has any inherent worth- only what humanity/people/person's ascribe to it. I won't get into whether something is inherently valued, even if this is the case, a human being has to perceive this and declare what this objective value is for the value to be knowable, in the sense of epistemology. A piece of art could be 5$ now, and worth 5 million in the future. And the something that's worth 10$ right now could be something that a person values as priceless (take your pick : hookers, starcraft, great blow. All things that could be had for 10$)

But it's all a waste of time because it will eventually not exist, and at that point in time, the only value it could hold is within the flawed memory of anyone who perceived it or experienced it. But then, people die, and usually far before what they valued vanishes. So once everyone is gone (nukes, plagues, lack of water, overcrowding, robot sex slaves, a vengeful imaginary being, take your pick, it will happen someday) there will be no one to value anything.


How do you get up in the morning? Or do you just realize that this emo bullshit is only relevant in the philosophical world of the ivory tower.

I don't get up in the mornings. I'm a night person. Although, I don't actually think any of this is a bad thing, it doesn't bother me at all. The essential point of what I posted is that the only value is whatever you assign to something. Not really sure how that's emo...
BeJe77
Profile Joined April 2006
United States377 Posts
June 08 2009 20:27 GMT
#98
Well, props to him for being born with the proper genetics to be as smart as he is. Other then that he has no right to judge what other people do.

If your passion is to play games as a recreation so be it. If your more of an outdoors type of person then that's your thing. He's doing martial arts and trying to do scuba-diving as somebody else mentioned, that's also recreation activity like gaming.

No matter how much his parents are looking out for him, trying for him to get best education at what not, at that young of an age, the kid should be playing with other kids and interacting. Developing his social skills, knowing himself and experiencing the world. The only thing I see what his parents have done is put massive amount of pressure on the kid to produce results at an early age, trying to make him grow up too fast while skipping the most important development aspects of life..

I wish the kid good luck in his future... Props to him if he does something for humanity, but I see him going crazy due to all the pressure way before he does any good.

Taking small steps is the sure way to go.

-BeJ
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 20:32:46
June 08 2009 20:31 GMT
#99
On June 09 2009 05:07 QuoC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 05:05 Leath wrote:
On June 09 2009 05:04 Mastermind wrote:
the kid sounds like an idiot to me. It is clear he is good at retaining what he hears/reads, but It appears he is not very good at thinking.


Jealousy o_O


agreed. we value what he really says because if you can find another 11 year old that wise and mature, THEN i'll retract my statement. i wish i had a brother like that =[


Actually the kid isn't wise and mature at all.

Education =/= Wise and Mature... nor does it equal worldly intelligence.

In fact I'd be more liable to believe that the kid still has absolutely no idea how the world works because... HES ELEVEN

Geniuses like him or whatever all get slapped in the face when they hit the working world because all their knowledge is useless in the face of greedy exploiting people.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 20:34:07
June 08 2009 20:33 GMT
#100
On June 09 2009 04:02 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 03:47 ssenwen wrote:
On June 09 2009 03:37 Nevuk wrote:
This kid doesn't yet understand that everything is actually a waste of time. I'm about to start a rambling rooted in literary theory, one of my very own personal waste, but the one that I study. Value is just an opinion, granted, it is frequently shared by many, but the fact remains that nothing has any inherent worth- only what humanity/people/person's ascribe to it. I won't get into whether something is inherently valued, even if this is the case, a human being has to perceive this and declare what this objective value is for the value to be knowable, in the sense of epistemology. A piece of art could be 5$ now, and worth 5 million in the future. And the something that's worth 10$ right now could be something that a person values as priceless (take your pick : hookers, starcraft, great blow. All things that could be had for 10$)

But it's all a waste of time because it will eventually not exist, and at that point in time, the only value it could hold is within the flawed memory of anyone who perceived it or experienced it. But then, people die, and usually far before what they valued vanishes. So once everyone is gone (nukes, plagues, lack of water, overcrowding, robot sex slaves, a vengeful imaginary being, take your pick, it will happen someday) there will be no one to value anything.


How do you get up in the morning? Or do you just realize that this emo bullshit is only relevant in the philosophical world of the ivory tower.


I don't get this post. What are you saying? Especially with the question.

Perceived value is not only relevant outside of philosophical discussions, it's a blatantly obvious reply to the kid's statement about video games. Irrelevant how? Kid says video games don't have value for humanity and, in response, the notion of value is questioned. But beyond this thread, the idea of perceived value as the only value is incredibly important for the market/economy/business, for social issues (cultural disputes, etc) and even for mental health (self-esteem issues, etc).

And I don't know what you consider emo bullshit but going from the most popular meaning of emo, I see none of it here.

Thank you. I think he assumed that I was using this theorem to argue for nihilism, that nothing has value (or meaning), which is what a lot of nihilists I know do argue. In my point I merely argued that this kid's idea of thinking something was valueless was problematic, as everything is valueless in some way. However, this is based upon the idea that value is subjective and relative - and that it does exist.

The statement the kid gave is a bit more absurd than usual, because he gives the reason as to why he thinks video games are a waste, as "they contribute nothing to humanity", which is a highly subjective, hollow statement - maybe wasting time is a good contribution to humanity. The future doesn't contribute anything to the present humanity, does that mean that the future is useless? And while this sounds like an absurd statement, this is a guy who is studying light from stars that is billions upon billions of years old, usually.
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