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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 20:39:30
March 06 2008 02:48 GMT
#1
Recently an old friend was talking about how we used to all play SC (a large group of me and my friends) and that a mutual friend could beat 7 computers on BGH with Zerg...

He said it was amazing, so I told him its not that hard, and uploaded a 4 part ~38min video of it to My youtube. It only took me one try with the strategy I eventually used, but I tried several variations of a hyper speed lurker tech that failed (due to sheer numbers taking my shit down even though my lurkers raping 100s of units).

Anyways, I know I didn't play it very well (1000s of min/gas at times, could have expanded asap or whatever), so lets have a little competition here:

RULES:
Must be Single player (no b.net/obs),
Must be Blizzard BGH ONLY,
Must have reps (videos would be better),
Must be random allied computer opponents, (or 7 of 1 race)
Must be on Fastest game speed,
No saving/loading,
No cheat codes,
No hacks,
No "worker luring". WORKER BAITING
(I can't think of anything else atm, but if it seems cheap don't do it, use the honor system here.)

Everything else, short of [some form of] cheating can- and should be used.
(The only acceptable 'abuse' I can think of is to keep restarting the map over and over until you get a start location you want.)

I will try and keep an update here of the Best Times/Strats used for each race.

ZERG:
Elvin_vn -27:06 sunken wall/guardians+mass lings
http://download.yousendit.com/AD1AF2DD6476F4A3

Elvin_vn -34:20 FE/Sunken wall/Lurker/Guardian/Mass Hydra
http://download.yousendit.com/B194FB5A1A3EA4FE

CharlieMurphy ~38min/sunken wall/lurker/hydra drops/ultra+ling+swarm

TERRAN:
Cambium -25:29, wall/bunks/tank/expo/bc

NEwAcC) -28:21 wall/Tank drops/Mass mech
http://download.yousendit.com/713F661C222F770 (37min)
http://download.yousendit.com/3572F60A718D21EA

CharlieMurphy -29:04 wall/tank/BC
http://download.yousendit.com/A2048F936E644E06


PROTOSS:

patrick321 -25:36/Canon wall/1-Base carrier
http://download.yousendit.com/215B5FBD6A22F6DD

I think I'll add the other categories of Z vs. all T's & P's, and their counterparts as well.

+ Show Spoiler +



Tv7Z:
SchOOl_VicTIm -25:58, straight up mm/tanks/vessels http://www.sendspace.com/file/2luej6

Tv7P:

Tv7T:

Pv7Z:
Aurious -28:21, wall/canon/Carriers

Pv7P:

Pv7T:
Kau -13:07, dt/canon/zeal

Zv7Z:
Kau - 6:37, 6pool AI Abuse=gg..

CharlieMurphy -16:42, wall@5 muta/guard and crack.
http://download.yousendit.com/6393C72D0C49DA7D

Zv7P:
Twisted -29:50, wall/sunk/lurk/hydra drops

Zv7T:
Kau -17:39, 2 hatch lurkers/hydras

I'm too lazy to put the links to reps from the latest update. They are on pages 4-6.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16992 Posts
March 06 2008 02:52 GMT
#2
Heh. Anyone care to brainstorm strategies for this?

I'm thinking massive turtle/dropship Terran style with AI abuse by completely walling off the entrances. I'm honestly not quite sure how Protoss would do it, but I'd imagine it'd require a lot of storm.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
March 06 2008 02:53 GMT
#3
So are all the enemies random race?
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16992 Posts
March 06 2008 02:55 GMT
#4
Oh, something I just realized:

This would happen back in 1.08 when replays first came out, but replays with computer players in them tend to really fuck up since computer actions aren't recorded (I think). I think what the engine used to do was actually let the computer play a game on its own. I remember looking back at some of my 4v4 comp replays on BGH and noticing that the computers would do different builds each game.

Does that still happen?
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xBTx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
March 06 2008 03:03 GMT
#5
I'm feeling forge first mass cannon push with some zealot defense, but then again I probably wont do it very fast
stuffing feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken
GGZERG1
Profile Joined August 2007
United States40 Posts
March 06 2008 03:04 GMT
#6
this is easy............ lol
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
March 06 2008 03:09 GMT
#7
Com on, this is not a challenge. This is too easy. Comps are stupid. Maybe the hardest one is me been Z vs 7 Protosses but only the first strike and if some of them tech to dark templar its just as easy as the other games. Someone should make a new AI for 1.15.2 that would be fun. Holding mass atacks is not inproving my game.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16992 Posts
March 06 2008 03:10 GMT
#8
The challenge is to complete it in the fastest time.
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ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
March 06 2008 03:10 GMT
#9
terran is really easy... wall off with a bunker and a few tanks -> BCs
toss is slightly harder as cannon wall is weak.. but basically get carriers asap
go OVERSKY MODE!
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 06 2008 03:12 GMT
#10
are you allowed to wall/block with scvs?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
March 06 2008 03:15 GMT
#11
You're allowed everything but worker drags afaik.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
March 06 2008 03:22 GMT
#12
How do you beat 7 protoss initial rushes as zerg?
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
March 06 2008 03:25 GMT
#13
On March 06 2008 12:22 Try wrote:
How do you beat 7 protoss initial rushes as zerg?


Evo Chamber wall with sunkens behind?
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
March 06 2008 03:25 GMT
#14
I don't think luring workers works in single player anyway
blabberrrrr
noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-06 03:42:56
March 06 2008 03:27 GMT
#15
On March 06 2008 11:52 Empyrean wrote:
Heh. Anyone care to brainstorm strategies for this?
Keep restarting til you magically get two dud zerg comps on bottom mid and mid left, then play normally. EZ jk :D

Seriously, easiest/fastest strat would probably be to rush the comp next to you, then take an expo and the main you destroyed and just straight tech to carrier/BC/anything with zerg (I'd probably guard/ling). I'm not gonna try though 'cuz I don't feel like playing comps and I suck and some gosu here is probably gonna get a faster time than I'll ever get in my life.

edit@below: lol forealz
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
March 06 2008 03:41 GMT
#16
On March 06 2008 12:27 noobienoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2008 11:52 Empyrean wrote:
Heh. Anyone care to brainstorm strategies for this?
Keep restarting til you magically get two dud zerg comps on bottom mid and mid left, then play normally. EZ jk :D

Seriously, easiest/fastest strat would probably be to rush the comp next to you, then take an expo and the main you destroyed and just straight tech to carrier/BC/anything with zerg (I'd probably guard/ling). I'm not gonna try though 'cuz I don't feel like playing comps and I suck and some gosu here is probably gonna get a faster time than I'll ever get in my life.

I'll be surprised if a gosu actually does it.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-06 03:44:06
March 06 2008 03:42 GMT
#17
What about beating a lot of protoss AIs who all go 3 gate rush without using worker lure AND without making a wall that messes up unit AI, making them not attack you?

How many can you beat?
1t2t3t4t5taw
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Andorra173 Posts
March 06 2008 04:12 GMT
#18
On March 06 2008 12:42 BlackStar wrote:
What about beating a lot of protoss AIs who all go 3 gate rush without using worker lure AND without making a wall that messes up unit AI, making them not attack you?

How many can you beat?



Repairing a bunker
afadf
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
March 06 2008 04:17 GMT
#19
I beat Protoss vs 7 Terran, not too hard; just mass Zealot + Carrier + Arbiter and the computers fall pretty easily.

However, this seems certainly like a challenge .. three races .. hmm.
^-^
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
March 06 2008 04:18 GMT
#20
Oh btw Charlie can I just post a replay because my computer is really really shitty and it'll die if I try to play Starcraft with Camtasia or fraps or w/e
^-^
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