• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:01
CEST 07:01
KST 14:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors7Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22
Community News
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event11Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors ASL21 General Discussion Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1585 users

[N] TL Mafia LXXV

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 19 20 21 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 31 2017 06:51 GMT
#26
This probably won't start in a while?
/in
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 02 2017 13:55 GMT
#40
But do you still play broodwar?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 02 2017 15:08 GMT
#42
I've played some lately. At least it works (gameplaywise).
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 07 2017 01:22 GMT
#71
If Blazinghand joins i know what i will do D1.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 07 2017 21:07 GMT
#77
Watcher is an OP and dumb role. And survivor is retarded, just as retarded as jester.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 08 2017 03:47 GMT
#81
Watcher is definitely more powerful than cop, regardless of how the KP works.
Survivor is dumb because it's boring, best play is just to claim survivor and afk for the rest of the game as neither faction really gains anything from lynching you (especially town), which is dumb. It's like someone gave you a role where you cannot post at all, only vote - and only once / day. What's the point?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 01:20 GMT
#162
Good morning.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 01:52 GMT
#165
Depends on what Palmar happened to roll this game. At least it's more effective than tunneling him D2.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 02:02 GMT
#167
Well at least i got one town read. It's a start.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 02:38 GMT
#168
Anyways, work time now. See you guys in 16 hours or so!
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 04:06 GMT
#172
On June 14 2017 12:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well at least i got one town read. It's a start.

How do you already have a townread?

Also what do you do that you have 16 hour shift+ commute?



Bcz i am so good. ^^

Normal work day and i promised to go fix co workers roof after. Shoyld have gone mon- tue but unfortunately wind and rain changed plans.

Tumblewood can you elaborate more on your last post please?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 07:10 GMT
#185
On June 14 2017 15:41 disformation wrote:
and yes i saw this post, but i didnt get the same feeling from rayn, so id like xata to point it out a bit more.

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 13:49 Xatalos wrote:
On June 14 2017 12:55 Tumblewood wrote:
is fecalfeast always comically suspicious



How? Rather, he seemed relaxed / at ease to me.

Unlike this other guy!

+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
At work now.. semi-online, semi-AFK.


gotta run now.

What do i have to do with any of this?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 07:29 GMT
#188
Ahhh... i get it now. I am pretty sure he is joking though.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 09:33 GMT
#236
I have a slight problem with disformation's Koshi "read". I'll elaborate tonight as writing posts on phone is pain in the ass.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 10:26 GMT
#258
On June 14 2017 18:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a slight problem with disformation's Koshi "read". I'll elaborate tonight as writing posts on phone is pain in the ass.


The problem is you're bad at reading between the lines. Get on holyformation's level.

The problem lies with the "maybe later" part. Like depending on what Koshi posts after does the scummy(?) part become more or less scummy to him or what?

I dont think what you and him said makes Koshi mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 11:40 GMT
#292
On June 14 2017 19:48 Koshi wrote:
rayn I like you. But why are you defending me? imo it is a good place to start. I completely broke meta there. Problem is that I also always make the townpost as mafia. So I could be so easily 3p.

Koshi confirmed bulletproof survivor. I am ok with it.


Im not defending you. I am questioning disformation and answered holyflare since it seemed like he was accusing me of something.

And now i am out of net for 6 hrs so laters.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 11:43 GMT
#294
I never argued Koshi is town. Why do you have to intentionally twist something i said into something else holyflare?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 21:38 GMT
#753
First of all everyone (since there are like 10 or so people) who think i in any way defended Koshi are fucking retarded. "This post doesn't make Koshi scum" is not "Koshi is town", never has been, and never will be, except for in Holyflare's intentional or unintentional miscontrues of finding scummy narratives to what people said and twisting them to something that it never was. Unfortunately apparently like half of the fucking TL Mafia is dumb enough to actually agree with him on shit like that. I know he does that as mafia, and that is not the only case he has done it this game. I don't have enough games with him as him boing town lately to know if he has become such a shitty player he can be town here. So i am just gonna ignore him until he posts something that makes sense (no, the case on Koshi is not good).

Secondly, the people who want to hunt for 3rd parties are usually mafia. I couldn't give less fucks at the start of the game who is a 3rd party. Because i want to lynch mafia. Fortunately, for mafia, the possible existence of 3p's allows them to genuinely "scumhunt", as in the only way to do so. Another red flag for Holyflare.

Then there is this:
On June 14 2017 21:05 Holyflare wrote:
That's called a dead end. No mafia, no push.

I understand the concept of generating discussion. I don't understand the concept of calling someone mafia because they don't have a clear mafia read or push when like fucking half of the game hasn't even checked in / made a meaningful post yet.

Another dude suspicious is disformation. First there is the Koshi thing where disformation basically went like "i agree this post is scummy but let me decide later after Koshi posts more if this post is actually scummy or not". That's fucking bullshit. You either think some post makes someone scum (if you call a post scummy) or you dont. A post doesn't become more scummy AFTER person has posted SOMETHING ELSE. That's a huge leap of logic, basically saying post A is scummy (or not) based on to-be-come-posts B and C.

Another thing that raises my eyebrows is this:
On June 14 2017 22:22 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:20 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar

Yeah. Why not.

oh right, the other dude who hasnt answered a good question asked of/to/from/of him


What does disformation actually wanna do this game? Apparently his top scum read (or 3p read, i don't even fucking know) votes for someone who hasn't posted basically anything. disformation decides that "because Palmar didn't do something when he wasn't here" he might be scummy. wooo woooo! And people call this dude one of their top town reads. What has he actually done despite being here a lot and posting a lot? What a joke.




Fecalfeast is likely town. I liked the approach to darthfoley's opening from him. I recall FF being more "serious" from get go as mafia, at least the last game i played with him. It's like he wasn't trying to make anything out of nothing (which DF's "inconsistency" pretty much was).

Tumblewood on the other hand didn't care to answer me afaik. Well now it doesn't matter, since it was about his comment on DF. Now i wont get anything out of it anyways so i have to judge him later. I didn't like how he approached the DF opening.

Xatalos is again being super antagonizing towards me. Can't fucking see the obvious while we have talked about this very same thing after basically every game where he decides to tunnel me (which is 100% of the last 2 yr games...). Unfortunately i think he's town though, i don't really think he would have this approach towards me (agreeing with HF based on fucking bullshit points) if he was mafia, since there is a chance i blow up on him and with certain people in the game ther ARE people who can see what is bullshit and what is not. I think he just genuinely believes in what he says about me, so to the ignorelist.

Skynx is most likely town. No need to repeat what others have said.

Vivax is so far the most level headed person in the game. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but he is town.

Palmar is most likely town for making the correct read (that he should make) there. I mean it's not even unlikely he would make the Vivax town read as mafia but given the game stance at the point i would think he would have more interest in calling me mafia and whatever i say paint it as "well you can't read me", just to fuck with me.

VayneAuthority is town.

btdt feels town. Idk he feels like he is just all over the place and completely lost in what he should think. Basically i jsut don't think he has a team behind him.

I don't think Koshi is mafia. Holyflare could be right in that he is 3p but i don't care about it right now. I think he has some smart posts. That's enough for me for now.

Damdred reads meehh... I gotta revisit his filter tomorrow. I am getting too tired today. I don't remember anything annul said, could be mafia. I don't know why people townread darthfoley, because i don't see any good posts from him that i remember. Another one to revisit tomorrow. Everyone else i don't remember anything about basically if they have posted.




I didn't even think i need to say this but don't be retarded and think someone is mafia because of what they didn't do when they weren't here. Think with your own brain and don't buy Holyflare's bullshit (yes man, that's fucking bullshit - a lot of what you said is just straight out bullshit regardless of your affiliation and regardless of if you even realize it or not). Think with your own brain.

I have a hard time dealing with being called out by half of the game because i happened to have to work 5:30 - 23:30 and some dumbass misconstrued what i said into fit his "this guy is scum" -narrative. I just don't like it, but i am trying to deal with it. Now excuse me i need to take a shower and wake up in 4 hours to work possibly only 14 hours. Fortunately i don't have to decide who to vote for until tomorrow evening.

peace
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 14 2017 21:54 GMT
#758
On June 15 2017 06:44 Holyflare wrote:
I don't truly think rayn is mafia like he's implying I think either. I think his "defence" post was bad because it should have been really obvious I was just pushing koshi for conversation (apparently it wasn't) and that line stuck out to me as being wrong in the context of discussion.

Hopefully you got some super good reads out of that and i will hear about them tomorrow, otherwise you just have succesfully wasted half of D1 into nothing...

Now sleepytime.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 15 2017 03:23 GMT
#799
Koshi, if you think HF is town why is Xatalos' "uninterest" in talking about Koshi/HF scummy? I mean what do you see there? If he is scum and you two are not why would he not talk about it? Xatalos has a tendency to waffle from post to another (like in a post-what-comes-to-mind sort of way) as either alignment. Imo for him as mafia that would be a perfect topic to do what he usually does - and then get nowhere.

Also what's with the disfo read? I know very well disformation is super duper waffly as town aswell. But i am not talking about that in my read. I am more into the mindset of approaching certain situations. Its not "idk what to think" or "i change my mind" but rather the starting point of dealing with something is already completely off (as per what i said in my post yesterday).
table for two on a tv tray
1 2 3 4 5 19 20 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
PiGosaur Cup #76
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 178
Nina 94
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3979
JulyZerg 142
910 58
Shinee 39
Noble 19
Bale 13
Icarus 10
ZergMaN 5
GoRush 5
League of Legends
JimRising 734
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1747
m0e_tv25
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox2256
Mew2King75
Other Games
summit1g7399
C9.Mang0527
WinterStarcraft449
monkeys_forever250
NeuroSwarm63
ViBE36
kaitlyn13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick976
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream52
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 32
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki34
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1207
• Lourlo1106
• Stunt382
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 59m
Afreeca Starleague
4h 59m
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
5h 59m
SHIN vs Nicoract
Solar vs Nice
PiGosaur Cup
18h 59m
GSL
1d 4h
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
2 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
BSL
5 days
GSL
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.