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Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
April 24 2017 20:11 GMT
#11
/in
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
April 30 2017 21:51 GMT
#19
damn this takes long to fill, is this common here or does it have to do with the specific game or something?
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 08 2017 11:18 GMT
#46
Glad we got 13 people, hope everyone confirms as well
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 08 2017 19:12 GMT
#52
/confirm
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 10 2017 14:33 GMT
#206
Reading thread now
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 10 2017 14:45 GMT
#207
On May 10 2017 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Prison Break smurf or from somewhere else?


I've played around 10 games on duelistgroundz and around 3-4 on mafiascum. Also some epicmafia but that does't count, so I'm prob not the most experienced player but definitely not new either. Did read the "how to improve" and "guide to mafia" posts and joined this site because it seemed like a competitive place to play mafia and I saw the site has done pretty decent over the last few mafia universe championships iirc
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 10 2017 15:06 GMT
#213
On May 10 2017 16:11 sicklucker wrote:
its page two lets not get hostile now


I don't like this post

You come in here, don't take sides or stances, make a general comment to seem townie and helpful by solving a fight (yet you don't really solve it, because you set it up in a way that you keep all your options open), then you leave again (?)

Your vote is on Fuba, yet you lack explanation, again, leaving your options open. You could go "it was pressure" or "it was a joke" or "RVS", but at the same time if a wagon on fuba starts you could spin it like it was your intention all along

I think you're scum
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 10 2017 15:36 GMT
#216
On May 10 2017 08:10 Damdred wrote:
Probably right, I missed you and your witty love HF.

I kinda think Rayn is town for a bad reason that has no real basis


What's the "bad reason" you townread Rayn?

Do you still hold your reads on Rayn being town, and "LS is obvious scum", or were these joke reads? If so I'd like to know your thoughts now
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 11 2017 19:19 GMT
#559
On May 12 2017 04:13 fuba wrote:
Is Prison Break around? I liked what he was saying earlier, but haven't heard his wisdom in so long


I'm here but I'm still catching up

Getting used to all the new names etc. and keep looking back for possible connections

I'll drop my reads once I'm catched up - still don't like sicklurker fwiw, and I liked you for joining it
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 11 2017 19:22 GMT
#567
Quick look at the current votecount

The fact that there's not 1 big wagon means we've prob caught at least 1 or 2 scum, and scum is now trying to spread the votes between multiple people so that it's less obvious as to who it is

If 1 townie received 2-3 votes + heat, you'd expect scum to push it harder and it to form 1 big wagon on them, but right now that's not happening so we may be on the right track
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 12 2017 12:24 GMT
#810
we should kill sicklurker tbh
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 12 2017 12:29 GMT
#812
I already thought he was scum and his defense was like "yeah you only think that because you're not from this site etc. so it's understandable" ... the fuck? what kind of logic is that
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 12 2017 12:31 GMT
#813
also when fuba joined it he got a lot of pressure for it, possible chainsaw defenses there to protect sicklurker
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 12 2017 12:59 GMT
#821
On May 12 2017 21:44 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 21:31 Prison Break wrote:
also when fuba joined it he got a lot of pressure for it, possible chainsaw defenses there to protect sicklurker


Oh you think they are both mafia?

Why did fubz pick out your case out of all the possible targets he could have picked in the thread especially?


No only sicklurker

but it's possible that at least one of the people who attacked fuba, is a scummate of sicklurker

I don't think sicklurker and fuba are ever scum together here, I rule that out
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 12 2017 16:36 GMT
#909
I'm having trouble catching up but I'll give my reads based on my vote analysis of day 1. I don't know people here so I can't make meta reads, so I'm going to make reads based on votes and on my own reference points of what scum does, since I found them to be universal across all sites, and while meta-based reads can be more accurate and detailled, there are some things that scum always does so I'm going to trust my ability to solve this game the way I usually do it. Either way, I haven't caught up yet, but I do have a few strong reads so far:

Grackaroni (2) - Palmar, sicklucker
sicklucker (2) - Prison Break, fuba
Vivax (1) - raynpelikoneet
darthfoley (3) - Damdred, Tumblewood, Grackaroni
Damdred (4) - darthfoley, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Skynx
Skynx (1) - Vivax

Not voting (0) -

Damdred is the lynch!



According to my theory that "we prob catched 1-2 scum, and scum is now trying to spread the votes so it's not obvious who it is and they can control the lynch at any moment", combined with the fact that Damdred was the lynch and flipped town, I want to look at the people that were on the vote, that were also a possible target.

People on the vote: darthfoley, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Skynx

Alright let's look at the reasons why they voted

So darthfoley has 3 votes, and Damdred has 4 votes, so at this point it's likely both are town because if they were scum, scum could've pushed the others harder, which makes me think scum could be between the people with 1 or 2 votes.

Townread on darthfoley, based on this analysis

Both Holyflare and Skynx were late on the Damdred lynch, so both are suspicious. darthfoley was also on damdred, but if damdred was scum he could have switched to another target rather than having 2-3 scum pile on the same person. There's probably a townie with like 2 townvotes in there, so why not use 1-2 scum to pile onto it, which also gives additional momentum for others to join and to form a big wagon? This makes my townread on dartfoley stronger.

Holyflare very looks bad for coming in and dropping the vote, Skynx looks bad for dropping the final vote.

As for LightingStrike, I like LightingStrike. He looks town. He's been calling out Holyflare and pressuring him a long time. I can't see it being scum/scum. I can see it being LightningStrike town, Holyflare scum.

I also like how LightningStrike pushes Sicklurker as well, I think if sicklurker was town he had been the lynch day 1, like it seems scum is just trying to steer direction away from him everytime so he doesn't get lynched. Sicklurker also with the 180 on me, first he townreads me and says it's likely for people from other sites to scumread him (aka trying to get me to drop my case against him) - then he goes "he didn't re-evaluate, so he's scummy". I did re-evaluate, I just came to the same conclusion. The fact you townread me at first after I scumread you is already weird, but then your 180 on me is even weirder, only makes sense from a scum PoV

Posts from LightningStrike such as "why you guys trying to settle on to lynching low activity players? Why can't we lynch HF?" seem like actively trying to keep town into the good direction, where as scum you would want to keep town going after inactives (because, then you can just up your activity and join the hunt for inactives. it's an easy strategy for scum to bandwagon on town being bad and imploding, so trying to keep town in the right direction is major townpoints.)

Let's look at an earlier vote-count:

vote-count 3:

Holyflare (1) - LightningStrike
Grackaroni (2) - Palmar, sicklucker
sicklucker (2) - Prison Break, fuba
darthfoley (2) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
Damdred (1) - Grackaroni
Skynx (1) - darthfoley

As to be seen here, if we assume there's 2 scum between (holyflare, sicklurker, skynx), then it makes sense that Damdred was the counterwagon to it. This vote-count does not prove anything, but like I said it's highly likely 1-2 scum were between these, and we know darthfoley-damdred aren't it, according to my reads.

I want to look more into Skynx before I give me opinion - does this site have an ISO fuction? Right now I'm going control f people's names but it's not the most effective way in the world, ugh.. Though Skynx pushed both sicklurker and holyflare so based on connections, it's likely that he's town or bussing, so I'm leaning Skynx on being town

I also want to look into Grackaroni as well, but sicklurker pushed him though, so prob not a team

We should kill Sicklurker and Holyflare 100%, will vote either of them
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 12 2017 16:39 GMT
#910
Also note how HolyFlare tried to switch my attention away from sicklurker today. He kind of soft-defended him when I brought it up, and then he tells me the entire time to look elsewhere, as does sicklurker, so they're teaming up against me
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 12 2017 17:12 GMT
#915
I thought you said you didn't like his day 1 + made a few posts about how he could be scum, like early this day

Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 12 2017 17:13 GMT
#916
On May 13 2017 01:50 Holyflare wrote:
Hm also:
Show nested quote +

According to my theory that "we prob catched 1-2 scum, and scum is now trying to spread the votes so it's not obvious who it is and they can control the lynch at any moment"


If that's your theory why do you begin looking for mafia in the people on the wagon?

Also you can press the filter button under a person's post and see alll their posts.


That was my theory earlier on, when everyone had 1-2 votes. Obviously as end of day nears, people want to push 1 townie for the mislynch, and in this case your last vote looked very bad
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 12 2017 17:14 GMT
#917
scum wants the votes spread early-mid day, and want to steer them toward a townie mid-late day
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 12 2017 17:15 GMT
#919
I've seen enough games where someone is townread by a lot of people from day 1 on, keeps getting defended by town + sometimes their mates, never gets lynched and ends up being scum

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