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I liked Damdred's reason to push LS (LS not being tinfoily enough about HF + Damdred). Could be town.
I liked LS' reaction to the pressure, as scum I would have expected him to either be fakely emotional or just dismiss it. Could be town.

HF gets 0 credit for this push, fake or not.

I don't like ritoky post announcing he will play the whole game reactively, which is exactly what scum tends to do. I don't like these in his second posts:

On May 24 2016 08:19 ritoky wrote:
- Kush is not mafia with LightningStrike Posts 85-88
- Holyflare is not mafia with Damdred: Posts 87-93

Looks like the exact things a scum would say to look like he's contributing.

I don't like Tumble saying he thinks HF's pressure is fake, then treating it like it is real:
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On May 24 2016 08:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Mmm I'm not on with this LS TMI stuff, seems like Damdred/HF are just going for reactions. Should get the game rolling though.

On May 24 2016 08:18 Tumblewood wrote:

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I get that you said LS confirmed Koshi town, but I didn't feel there was much conviction in it, like you could see yourself voting him later in the game.

On May 24 2016 14:02 Tumblewood wrote:

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mmmmm I'm gonna contest you on this one, mafia targets the weak link usually at some point but not early early D1. People in mafia have ADHD and can't wagon someone for more than half a day at a time.
HF might be scum but if he is it's for calling a scum slip with 100% certainty when it was kinda iffy.

Rels

France13467 Posts

May 25 2016 10:47 GMT

#487

On May 24 2016 18:18 Holyflare wrote:

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So, which do you think it is? Am I going for reactions or are you suspicious because I called out a scum slip with certainty?

I feel like many of your posts say things that don't reach any conclusions and me no likey.

LOL this is familiar

Rels

France13467 Posts

May 25 2016 10:55 GMT

#488

On May 25 2016 02:17 Superbia wrote:
Damdred also feels scummy, but one at a time.

Why ?

Rels

France13467 Posts

May 25 2016 11:00 GMT

#490

On May 25 2016 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:

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It's pretty self explanatory. If you are interested in a specific read from someone on a certain player then telling your opinion about that exact player in the same post completely defeats the purpose.

On May 25 2016 02:23 Superbia wrote:

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I find it hard to believe that you are this short-sighted as town.

Why am I asking that question?

This is scummy by Superbia. I expect town!Superbia to not do what HF and JAT are attacking him for, and more than that I expect town!Superbia to understand why he's being attacked for that instead of being super defensive. The last game I've played with town!Superbia was resistance V, and he did all kind of smart sneaky stuff about his vote to get scum to slip by voting incorrectly.

Rels

France13467 Posts

May 25 2016 11:01 GMT

#491

On May 25 2016 02:34 Tumblewood wrote:

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This is definitely townie. LS is fighting to prevent a mislynch, which is pro-town and has no benefit if he's scum.

This is a bad read. Scum defends lynchbait townie all the time for exactly this reason.

Rels

France13467 Posts

May 25 2016 11:03 GMT

#492

On May 25 2016 03:16 justanothertownie wrote:
Yeah, supers big post explained exactly nothing and his abrasiveness is similar to how he played recently as mafja.

My thoughts too

Rels

France13467 Posts

May 25 2016 11:07 GMT

#495

On May 25 2016 20:05 Superbia wrote:

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He's on the sidelines. Rereading d1 now and my feeling regarding damdred hasn't changed.

And what would you expect from him ?

Rels

France13467 Posts

May 25 2016 11:09 GMT

#497

On May 25 2016 04:19 Superbia wrote:

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On May 25 2016 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:

On May 25 2016 04:15 justanothertownie wrote:

On May 25 2016 04:12 Superbia wrote:

On May 25 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:

On May 25 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote:

On May 25 2016 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:

On May 25 2016 03:51 Superbia wrote:

On May 25 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:

On May 25 2016 03:46 Superbia wrote:
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Why?

I see smart post I agree.

This problem how?

If you're town, and you find yourself agreeing to someone else's posts. Does not not make that person likely to have a town mindset as well, and thereby likely town?

Why are you not reading him town?

It feels like you're backing out because I'm calling you out.

I guess it is my turn now to say that I have a hard time believing you are this short sighted as town, right?

Am I wrong? Having a similar mindset is one of the strongest town tells if applied well.

If I townread HF each game where I agreed with him on some things then I would never scumread him. Same goes for marv and several other players.
This line of reasoning is bullshit and you should know better.

Ok, so I see where we disagree here, and I'm talking about a different kind of "agreement", on a more subconscious level. Where your line of thought lines up with the other. That being said:

I know you as a (town-)player that's non-positive (for lack of better word, someone who is not positive) and gives no credit or props or whatever. You don't pander to people as town. This is why I knew you were the last mafia in the last game you played (I skim-obsed it a bit, though I get no credit because I didn't tell anyone lolol). The fact that you call something a "good post" as town already raises my eye-brow. To add to that the fact that you're not even reading the poster town is really fucking weird, and rings my alarm bells.

Can others give some input on this?

I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone who ever saw me play town would genuinely think this.

Like, I am actually known for agreeing with people as town. Palmar literally named me parrotman in metal mini mafia.

Lolll what? Not in the games I was in.

What are these games ?

Rels

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May 25 2016 11:16 GMT

#505

On May 25 2016 20:14 Superbia wrote:
Rels I expect you to evaluate HF's and JAT's alignment as well, rather than join in on this wagon against me. You believe they are both town?

I think JAT is town.
I have no read on HF but I agree with basically everything he has written.
I'm not caught up so I'm not joining any wagon, just calling out things I'm seeing.

Rels

France13467 Posts

May 25 2016 11:18 GMT

#506

On May 25 2016 20:13 Superbia wrote:

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A direction.

In my experience town!Damdred plays D1 like he does this game, finding townies then POEing who he wants to lynch. He could fake it, but the fact that he's playing like that is not a scum indicator.