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Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 08 2016 20:07 GMT
#31
/in
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 09 2016 23:01 GMT
#47
hullo
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 09 2016 23:20 GMT
#49
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 09 2016 23:24 GMT
#51
That's pretty scummy tbh
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 09 2016 23:35 GMT
#54
Fecalfeast has canada on his profile so you calling it 'the US' leads me to believe you're from europe.

I'm thinking scum
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 09 2016 23:56 GMT
#58
On February 10 2016 08:41 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On February 10 2016 08:35 Wartrukk wrote:
Fecalfeast has canada on his profile so you calling it 'the US' leads me to believe you're from europe.

I'm thinking scum


You are thinking I'm scum? Why's that?

Town objective: Find scum

Your objective: Find smurf identities
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 00:26 GMT
#60
Aw I was hoping it was an anagram for Lamb Halo and you were a jesus freak
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 01:40 GMT
#71
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 01:55 GMT
#74
You're getting a lot out of 3 words and an acronym lol

The real scumstrat, however, would be padding your filter with what basically boils down to setup discussion since people aren't allowed to confirmw hether you're correct on them.

What is the town-favoured strat to outing smurfs, though? That's something I can't figure out, not like you can use meta without a seed of doubt since you can't ever confirm you're correct.
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 02:00 GMT
#77
On February 10 2016 10:57 keanuisgod wrote:
Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!

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On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?


I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is.
These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games)

Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen).

Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie).

Of course, in a game where everyone is allowed to out their smurf it would be the best play to find smurf identities but then it would also be the best play to just claim who you really are rendering the theme of the game pointless.

What triple N is doing causes doubt since none of the meta can be fully confirmed
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 02:02 GMT
#78
I also think if halo lamb wants to keep roleplaying he'll be on my 'posting to make it look like they're posting' scummy group
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 02:31 GMT
#81
Ok, you're correct. I assumed there was some reason for you smurf hunting outside being silly. Explain how that's not padding your filter, then, please.


Also, saying that I have useless posts in no way invalidates my argument that you're padding your filter.
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 02:38 GMT
#85
On February 10 2016 11:36 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On February 10 2016 11:31 Wartrukk wrote:
Ok, you're correct. I assumed there was some reason for you smurf hunting outside being silly. Explain how that's not padding your filter, then, please.


Also, saying that I have useless posts in no way invalidates my argument that you're padding your filter.


Was there a reason for you saying hi and posting an emoticon?
No?
Then why do you assume there was a reason for me smurf hunting?

Why don't you tell me. Is there any reason for smurf hunting very early game that isn't padding my filter?

Not in this game, no
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 02:39 GMT
#86
Saying hello: "I am in thread the moment game started because I am excited to play a smurf game"

Zzz emoticon: "Post more because this is the time where I can be active"
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 02:50 GMT
#93
I'm going to take a break I think I'm tunneled on the smurf hunting idea too hard. I'm not taking back what I said as I still think there is a clear mafia motivation for it but I can't articulate them properly it seems
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 03:49 GMT
#102
On February 10 2016 12:39 Bhaal LoM wrote:
Mortals it not a good idea to smurf hunt. It just waste people's time.

insightful wow cool nobody said that yet
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 12:11 GMT
#116
On February 10 2016 19:47 unholyflare wrote:
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On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?

I don't understand how you or anyone can believe this. If, somehow, we know the identities of all/most of the people in the game, it would be easier to scumhunt. I think you're pretty suspicious for this as it suggests you have something to hide.

I'm checking the thread before I go to bed but one more time, we can't know the identities of anyone for sure it only creates wifom
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 20:33 GMT
#147
Wartrukk
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 21:11 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 10 2016 19:47 unholyflare wrote:
On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?

I don't understand how you or anyone can believe this. If, somehow, we know the identities of all/most of the people in the game, it would be easier to scumhunt. I think you're pretty suspicious for this as it suggests you have something to hide.

I'm checking the thread before I go to bed but one more time, we can't know the identities of anyone for sure it only creates wifom

For some people we can be close to 100% sure of their identity. For instance, I am close to 100% sure that keanuisgod is shapelog.
Even if you disagree, wouldn't the obvious identity of a smurf be helpful for some rough but effective metaing? ie if keanu aka shapelog has a huge filter, that doesn't necessarily point to him being town.

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On February 10 2016 11:50 Wartrukk wrote:
I'm going to take a break I think I'm tunneled on the smurf hunting idea too hard. I'm not taking back what I said as I still think there is a clear mafia motivation for it but I can't articulate them properly it seems

I didn't realize you were actually tunneled on me for smurf hunting. Exactly how sure were you that I was scum?


I guess if meta reads are all you are confident in making then a 99% smurf read is fine I just don't think it's 100% even if you truly believe you are the smurf detective.

I used the word tunneled because I was tunneled on the idea that smurf huntingis super scummy and since you seemed, in my eyes, to be fighting me for no real reason.

I'm over the smurf thing now. Bhaal lom is still in my leanscum pile, NNN is null because i admit he posted some stuff (like early game to saitama) that I was thinking. Vald is coming out of the gate strong andI think that's towny, especially if he replaced in on short notice. Saitama had a weird early game and I had him as leanscum last night but I haven't read too closely the 30 or so posts from last night.
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 20:37 GMT
#148
On February 11 2016 03:54 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 02:58 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
On February 11 2016 00:59 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 11 2016 00:28 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
On February 11 2016 00:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 10 2016 23:26 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Unfortunately, it smacks a bit townie.

Also no I don't expect much alignment indication in the start of the game. Hence, so much stuff is NAI.



So is it correct to assume you have the same read on both Wartruck and myself: bad players who are leaning townie?

And your definition of omgus is what? And we are leaning town because of the omgusing itself or because we omgused in a townie way?

That assumption is not correct. You are players who have done a bad play that is more often town than scum in alignment indication.

My definition of omgus is reading a player as scum simply because they read you as scum.

Neither of you has progressed from null.


Nothing you said here makes sense.
That assumption is not correct. You are players who have done a bad play that is more often town than scum in alignment indication.
If we have done something that more often comes from town, then that should lead to a town lean. On the spectrum of scum to town, we should be on the town side of null.

My definition of omgus is reading a player as scum simply because they read you as scum.
You are misrepresenting the reasons behind our suspicions. Wartrukk suspected me for smurf hunting. I suspected Wartrukk for being suspicious of smurf hunting. How did Wartrukk OMGUS at all?
I can understand why you'd think I OMGUSed, but realize that if he was suspecting someone else for smurf hunting, my suspicion would have still been there. So the true reason behind that suspicion isn't OMGUS either.

Coming into the thread early and saying "I'm town" also comes from town more often than scum.

Do you seriously expect me to immediately give them a town lean? Please. I weigh my reads before I give them.

And I took it on someone's word that wartrukk was omgusing you- so lynch me for not reading.

Finally, you did specifically state at one time "you are scumreading me for X? Then you are scum" which is practically omgus.

I will find it later. On phone.



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On February 10 2016 11:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 10 2016 10:55 Wartrukk wrote:
You're getting a lot out of 3 words and an acronym lol

The real scumstrat, however, would be padding your filter with what basically boils down to setup discussion since people aren't allowed to confirmw hether you're correct on them.

What is the town-favoured strat to outing smurfs, though? That's something I can't figure out, not like you can use meta without a seed of doubt since you can't ever confirm you're correct.


How is smurf hunting setup speculation? Setup speculation is speculating about roles.
Smurf hunting is done for fun. It is pure NAI. I didn't do it to meta someone. I never said anything about meta. You are misrepresenting me.

I'm scum because I'm padding my filter, huh? And you're not?
On February 10 2016 08:01 Wartrukk wrote:
hullo

On February 10 2016 08:20 Wartrukk wrote:

YUP you got so much content in those posts, right!

So let me reiterate. You are scum for scumreading me for 100% NAI content.

this is not an Omgus, but in skimming it can look like it.

Under careful reading, I like it- this is an excellent point.

IF wartrukk had voted you.

Nonetheless the point remains good.

Can you elaborate on this post? Whose point is good? Yours or his?
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 10 2016 21:12 GMT
#150
It's just weird that you added the qualifier "IF he voted for you" but then said his point is still good. What would me voting him have changed? What if I had later said I was just voting him for pressure?

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